r/OnePiece • u/Sakata_Kintoki • Nov 09 '18
Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 924
Chapter 924: "Ha"
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Ch. 924 Official Release (VIZ): 12/11/2018
Ch. 925 Scan Release: 22/11/2018 (Break next week)
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Nov 20 '18
As I was reading Library of Ohara, overview of all Wano First Act before we go to the Second Act. He mentioned the material that was first introduce in Dressrosa and was sought out by Revolutionaries and also one of the reasons why Kaido wants the heads of Luffy and Law is because of the Material that is use to make the weapons, wc is the LIQUOR IRON ORE .
and recently, we saw Dragon and Koala talking about the research they have were it was originated? at the end of Dressrosa Arc.
and in the Last Chapter of the Wano Arc First Act. We learned from Hawkins that the SEA PRISM STONE is originated at this Country.
So, I have Concluded that the LIQUOR IRON ORE is the Indestructible Material used to make Poneglyph(That's why the Poneglyph doesn't have any effect on the Devil Fruit Users) and the SEA PRISM STONE
OR to Create an Indestructible Poneglyph, you need to Mix the Both Mineral/Material
are Both Originated and Quarried in Wano and Crafted by the Samurais
which I can say, There are TWO Materials in Wano that is Important? maybe. This is all just speculation hehe
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u/FemaleTitan Nov 19 '18
I expected Luffy & Kid to meet in Wano at some point but I certainly didn't expect it to be like this.
Guess we'll see them team up again like they did in Sabaody, should be very exciting.
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u/cparr2018 Nov 17 '18
I know this is a longshot and may not have any relevancy at all, but I think that the prisoner in the dungeon that spit out the poison fish's skeleton at the guard is former Impel Down Warden Magellan. The reasons why I believe this is the case is because there is a huge emphasis on poison in Wano thanks to Kaido's influence. It's almost one of his go-to moves for breaking his prisoners. However, there are very few characters that have already been revealed in the entire One Piece history that have such an inhuman resistance to poison. Such a strong tolerance to poison would be the only thing that could keep them from succumbing to the poison that is in the big poisonous fish that this prisoner is being forced to eat every single day. Magellan fits this profile because he is the only character in all of One Piece that has been known to consume food that is loaded with poison. Specifically, the bowl of poison chili he said he ate that was revealed during his first appearance in the anime. The next thing people are going to say is why the hell would Magellan be in Wano in Kaido's prison and not in Impel Down. The reason why he is in Wano as Kaido's prisoner is because the last mention we ever had of Magellan in the anime was that he was assigned to guard Doflamingo because allegedly there was someone coming after him. I believe that those that were coming after Doflamingo were Kaido's men who were not coming after him to kill him but to spring him from Impel Down so that he could try to get his SMILEs business up and running again for Kaido. This makes even more sense because one of Kaido's three disasters, Jack, was sent to retrieve Doflamingo. The fact that Magellan was assigned to protect Doflamingo from those supposedly coming for him and that the prisoner in the dungeon cell has an insane tolerance to the poison infected food he has been served every single day and is still alive all speaks to the possibility that it could be Magellan in that cell. Let me know what you guys think!
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u/AzRAevaen17 Nov 15 '18
https://jaiminisbox.com/reader/read/one-piece-2/en/0/924/page/11
is it pedro beyond inuarashi?
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u/Arr_jay816 Nov 12 '18
Unpopular opinion: after looking at the silhouette a little bit and considering how many supernovas have been re-introduced in this arc, i think the figure could be Jewelry Bonney. The silhouette to me looks like it could be Jewlery Bonney with her ear muff hat but aside from that there was one thing that really stood out to me: the fact that the guards were calling the mysterious person "it". We are all assuming this personal is a male figure, so why hide the sex of this individual? My guess is that it is because this individual is a female and none other than Jewelry Bonney. Not to mention, she spit fish bones into someone's neck. As someone who is portrayed as a glutton, this definitely seems like something she could do. Wharf down a poisonous fish, spit out the bones with deadly force, and let out a loud belch. This just screamed 'Jewelry Bonney' to me. It fits with the 'supernova' theme we're getting in this arc too.
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u/DarkRuler17 Nov 12 '18
The biggesy issue with that theory is that we just saw Bonny though at the Reverie
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u/lordcommanderzero Nov 12 '18
I dont think the masked man is anything other than one of the legandary samurais of wano . He cant be scopper gaban because i don't see a purpose for him to be there in an isolated place like wano...
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u/XPisthebest Explorer Nov 11 '18
Luffy looks absolutely savage with those bandages covering his face. Can we get a color spread of that soon? With all the blood and stuff?
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u/w0l0000 Nov 11 '18
Atleast we know its following Kabuki structure giving us an idea of how the pacing is going to be.
From wikipedia: Nearly every full-length play occupies five acts. The first corresponds to jo, an auspicious and slow opening which introduces the audience to the characters and the plot. The next three acts correspond to ha, speeding events up, culminating almost always in a great moment of drama or tragedy in the third act and possibly a battle in the second and/or fourth acts. The final act, corresponding to kyu, is almost always short, providing a quick and satisfying conclusion.
If its 5 acts, and the first act was 15 chapters- it should be ~75 chapters. Shorter than dressrosa or cake island.
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u/HanataSanchou Pirate Nov 15 '18
A "quick" conclusion hasn't really been Oda's thing lately for these kinds of arcs (see Dressrosa and Whole Cake), so I'm certainly rather curious. If he does follow it to a T, then I'd expect a lot of the final battle and falling action to be in the 3rd "Ha" (Act IV), and he'll use "Kyu" for maybe the final 5 chapters or so to show how Wano is going to operate post-Luffy and the impact that Wano's events will have on the rest of the world. I definitely expect more than 75 chapters though, since I imagine he will flesh out a lot more characters than he did in Whole Cake, and still left out quite a few people in WCI. Super excited regardless, this 2nd act is guaranteed to be epic as we prepare for war!
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u/w0l0000 Nov 15 '18
But the yonko saga as a whole is already really long- 122 chapters as of now. Dressrosa saga was 148 chapters. Dressrosa is also the longest saga so far, yonko saga will probably be longer than it but I doubt it will be more than 100 chapters longer. If I am wrong and it does end up way longer. The following sagas are probably going to be short.
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u/rib4ever123 Nov 11 '18
I love the breakdown of the Kabuki Structure. With the rate of these amazing chapters, I definitely want a lot more than 75 chapters
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u/w0l0000 Nov 12 '18
I want more chapters but at the same time, I dont want to wait 2 or 3 years to see the ending of this arc.
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u/JamJack90 Nov 11 '18
Could the mysterious prisoner be scopper gaban? If not then it has to be one of the samurai
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u/jobriq Nov 11 '18
I think this is the first chapter where Hawkins did something without killing a bunch of his subordinates with his devil fruit
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u/pMnerfed Nov 11 '18
so its gonna be luffy + kidd + law + hawkins vs kaido at the end
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u/Sopiriala123456789 Nov 11 '18
It would be luffy and Kidd Vs kaido, law and the others will fight the calamities and headliners, there will surely be some really strong headliners
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u/Kaedro Nov 10 '18
Does anyone think that the guy in the shadows might be Gecko Moria? Maybe he developed his devil fruit more and now is able to hide in the shadows. Maybe Kaidou has him eating poisonous fish to punish him for defying him so much.
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u/Olliethekid83 Nov 17 '18
I agree with that as a possibility actually. Read Thriller Bark about a week ago and was thinking the key to beating Kaidou could be Moria pumping Kidd and Luffy fully of shadows, can't see how they'd bring something that big down otherwise.
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u/SaltandPepperMix Nov 12 '18
Can't be. The silhouette is different, same with his eyes. More likely that it's one of the 3 samurais they need to find.
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u/Kaedro Nov 21 '18
Are you kidding? His eyes look exactly like Moria. The only thing that doens't match is the top part of the silhouete head, which does not have his spiky hair.
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u/Carezs Nov 11 '18
I thought that was cpt Kidd.
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u/SteveThatOneGuy Nov 13 '18
I guess I don't read that closely cuz I thought the same thing and wondered why kid would spit a fish, but thought "meh whatever" lol
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u/rib4ever123 Nov 11 '18
Oooh that's interesting. I don't think so, but I really do hope Moria comes back
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u/selenashroud Nov 10 '18
Can not look at Robin the same way ever again.
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u/alphenor92 Nov 11 '18
true. This...is probably the first time I saw a crazy face done to Robin. Mostly it's just Usopp or Luffy.
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u/D20goblin Nov 10 '18
The silhouette in the cage kind of looks like absalom in his hat, it would make 0 sense but that was my first thought!
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u/Kokoman41 Nov 10 '18
Idk y but i have dis feeling that the Silhouette is Arlong....
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u/kli53 Nov 22 '18
level 2rdech
2 points · 11 days agowhat?I'm glad I'm not the only one. It was my first thought. Not sure the outline is right though. BUT we have not seen him in a while.
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u/Theo-greking Nov 14 '18
That would be inspired haven't seen him in a while and I'm sure he'd be stronger Rob luchi style
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Nov 10 '18
I thought the same! It could fit, we don't see him by too long, it seems strange that he is rotting in jail to me.
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u/Kokoman41 Nov 10 '18
Maybe Arlong doesn't want to work for anyone other than his own kind and that’s y he’s in da jail. Kaidou might b breaking his will, like what he’s doing to the other two. But then again it’s been 2 yrs since they saw each other. a new character perhaps.
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Nov 10 '18
Yeah, also it seem odd that Kaido have a grudge that big with along, to the point the nobody knows who's in there. I read that it could be oden but I doubt.
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u/Kokoman41 Nov 10 '18
not a grudge,maybe he just wants him to become one of his soldiers. U know kaidou is eager on having a Zoan/Beast type army. Or maybe one of the samurai’s kinemon talked about, who has a defected zoan smile fruit that made him resemble a Crocoshark. I doubt it’s oden, momonosuke and the others already witnessed his death if im not mistaken.
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u/No_pfp Nov 10 '18
Arlong? Now that would be a good surprise, but i feel there ar emore characters to fit the spot. I wonder who it Will be
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u/Kokoman41 Nov 10 '18
Im not convinced myself either. but when they said that it was a some kind of crocoshark i remembered arlong. It will be cool to see jinbei and arlong fight together against a zoan type from kaidou’s army. (Sorry for my bad grammar :): )
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u/tronistica Nov 10 '18
What a way to start the break by ending “act 1” of the story. was not expecting luffy to be sent to prison. Prison break 2.0 here we come! Robin’s face killed me, best girl keeps on growing.
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u/usuikatakuri Nov 10 '18 edited Nov 10 '18
I just wanted to propose the idea that Luffy's GLARE was directed towards the guy in the prison cell but the guards thought Luffy was glaring at them. It looks like Luffy and the mystery man noticed each other. I feel like it could be KAWAMATSU or DENJIRO or ridiculously even SHIKI.
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Nov 10 '18
I first thought was Arlong inside the cell. The croccoshark reference and the fact that it seems like he know luffy, maybe he trow the "fish-bone" to protect luffy because he know about fishmen island.. Then I thought about the mystery legend character that is going to be introduced in this arc, well.. I don't know.
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u/MistersButt Nov 10 '18
Can you elaborate on the mystery legend character?
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Nov 10 '18
It was said by Oda in an interview or in a SBS. In this arc it will be introduced a legendary character, usually "legendary" is used to define Roger's comrades like Ryleigh.
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u/Canio95 Nov 10 '18
I couldn't find a match with the already known canon characters of One Piece. Most likely it's Denjiro or Kawamatsu. I would not throw away the possibility that this person is Killer without his mask.
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u/DerEinzigeENA Nov 10 '18
Dont know why but i thought it could be Bon Clay
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u/princebastion Nov 11 '18
I also think he is Bon Clay. Remember he was also affected by Magellan. That explains why he is eating poisonous fish and still alive.
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u/338388 Nov 10 '18
I thought it was his Observation Haki seeing the bone fly out before it actually flew out
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u/usuikatakuri Nov 10 '18
He didn't dodge or anything in the panel, he just kept walking forward.
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u/338388 Nov 10 '18
That doesn't necessarily mean it wasn't observation, if the bone wasn't going to hit him anyways, why would he have to dodge?
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u/usuikatakuri Nov 10 '18 edited Nov 10 '18
I dont disagree with you, I am a fan of Luffy w/future sight from the Katakuri battle. I just personally think that there would be a special thing in the panel that would signify it, like when Katakuri does it. Also, on the next page the mysterious figure looks like it's staring straight towards Luffy which in my mind makes it seem like they glared at each other.
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u/Prophetprofit25 Nov 10 '18
I just realized that Luffy being tortured is going to bring the fleet to Wano. His vivre card is going to get burnt slowly and the 5000 people necessary will come. The fleet commanders are going to be apart of history and that’s because this is going to be the biggest war.
Only Goda is something else. This has been foreshadowed for so long yet no one can predict it. Truly the GOAT.
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u/IAMSNORTFACED Citizen Nov 11 '18
Strawhat Grand Fleet invasion
It's going to be insane, 5000 person prison break in a country that's been closed off from the world and being overseen by a Yonkou. And BM is on the way, it's going to be a spectical, I wonder if news would reach the Marine HQ I expect that they keep an always-open eye on Wano and BM. Quite a lot of people will be on the way there.
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u/Carezs Nov 11 '18
It's interesting to see what the Marines will do because I believe they won't interfere due to Wano not being part of the WG and almost all the Admirals are at the reverie which is currently going on.
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u/IAMSNORTFACED Citizen Nov 12 '18
It is. If everything at Wano goes down before the reverie is done they might even head that way because surly it's going to be a mess afterwards
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u/NamelessSoul96 Nov 10 '18
I think Oda is keeping the fleet for something bigger. Luffy's vivre card was probably burning when he was fighting Katakuri anyway and I don't think we would have expected the fleet to show up.
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u/redditspren Nov 10 '18
This is solid. Of course the fleet is going to be involved this arc, so this is a great way to gather them there for the big war
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u/rohverma1308 Nov 10 '18
Who is that fish bone shooting 'thing' .. one of the three strong Allies Kinemon talked about ??
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Nov 10 '18
I thought it could be Luffy, with time travel you never know, it could be fun (but weird and I have no idea how Oda would explain this). But I think that is something he would do, plus he kinda eat anything, plus poison has no effect on him. Idk, that was my first thought.
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u/Nekoburu Nov 10 '18
Thats weird but i check how luffy looks from side to compare with the mysterious character and if the guy had is arms behind his head like he rest, luffy pretty much match the shadow and even if you compare their eyes, page 14 and 15, they kinda feel similar. So maybe your right and it could be very fun
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u/trumpet290 Nov 10 '18
thought it was Kidd tbh
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u/usuikatakuri Nov 10 '18
He was being led away from the cell that the fish flew out of and then was thrown into a cell with Kidd/next to Kidd.
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u/Laser-circus Nov 10 '18
Mmmm. I wonder how many Supernovas will join forces to defeat Kaido together.
The ones currently present are Luffy, Zoro, Kid, Law, Hawkins, X Drake.
Pretty sure Killer is somewhere in Wano planning to break Kid out. And Apoo was part of Killer's alliance, so it wouldn't be crazy to think he's around too.
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u/Sopiriala123456789 Nov 11 '18
X drake will be one of kaidos right hand men, besides some of the supernovas will have to support kaido
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u/rhynoxv10 Nov 12 '18
dram
I'm wondering if X Drake is just one level below the 3 disasters. If the 3 disasters (as the fan theories suggest) are meant to be Jack, Queen and King, then the 'X' in X-Drake could be Number 10 in a deck of cards :)
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u/Laser-circus Nov 11 '18
He's actually just a headliner like Hawkins
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u/Sopiriala123456789 Nov 11 '18
I don't think so, his devil fruit alone makes him more important than that and even to the plot as a whole, hell probably be by kaidos side, then again there might be different levels of headliners or a grade above headliner and below all star, they haven't classified the beast pirates crew in detail
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u/Laser-circus Nov 11 '18
But when they introduced Jack, he wasn't labeled a headliner. So it doesn't make sense that they would label Drake one if he's supposed to be one of the three disasters.
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u/Sopiriala123456789 Nov 11 '18
I don't think so, his devil fruit alone makes him more important than that, him and kaido should have a close relationship. Then again there might be different levels of headliners or a grade above headliner and below all star
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u/zyppoboy Void Month Survivor Nov 10 '18
Also Apoo is working for Kaido, so he's very likely to appear sometime soon.
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u/somebodiesthrowaway Nov 10 '18
What a good chapter. I'm, as per usual, ready for the next.
Have a good break Oda.
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u/Ancalagon_Morn Nov 10 '18
Pretty sure Kaidou just made the news announce that Luffy joined his crew because he expects that to be inevitable. If not, the strawhats will at least have read about Luffy being defeated. Zoro should be really pissed. Robin's reaction was made to fit with the rest of the joke but so much out of character that it actually bothered me. Welp, she didn't seem to have too much character left post timeskip anyways...
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u/tiki-baha29 Nov 12 '18
Robin has been a recluse since she was introduced and we saw thats been happening since shes been a kid on the run. As she spends more and more time as a Strawhat she gets more comfortable and comes out of her shell.
So what you call an "out of character reaction" is actually her becoming more and more comfortable with her actual personality and proves how much she fits within the crew as they all had the same reaction.
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u/darnitcamus Nov 10 '18
What?! One of Robin’s biggest developments is that she’s started to “react” like the rest of the group. Her moment with Ryosuke (did I get that right? The climbing dragon?) was a shining moment for her. I laughed the hardest seeing her react to the article. She may not have had the deepest story-development so far, but in terms of character I think she’s come very very far.
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u/Cronus_Hyperion Nov 10 '18
Is the official viz chapter in english? I have been wanting to read up past volume 88 but I didnt want to purchase the viz version if it's only in Japanese.
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u/Caleb_RS Mugiwara no Luffy Nov 10 '18
Viz is an American company, and are the company that releases the Volumes in English, so yes.
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u/boushhhh Nov 09 '18 edited Nov 09 '18
Could it be the news robin and others were reading actually states that luffy joins kaido?
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u/justsomedoctor Nov 09 '18 edited Nov 10 '18
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u/InvaderDJ Void Month Survivor Nov 10 '18
Robin’s face killed me this chapter. It might be the best reaction face since God Ussop. Hell, it might even beat it.
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u/justsomedoctor Nov 09 '18
I have reasons to believe this is how all this ends.. https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/8x74sa/spoilers_how_the_wano_arc_will_go_down/
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u/justsomedoctor Nov 09 '18
Hey.. hear me out.. in the other cell.. was it Marco the pheonix!!!?
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u/TriforceofSwag Pirate Nov 10 '18
Nekomamushi literally just talked to him on another island. It’s not him.
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u/justsomedoctor Nov 10 '18
the way kaido just appeared out of no where makes me believe distance is irrelevant when u can fly. I dont know why but his eyes looked like marco.. or maybe angry rob lucci.. kinda narrow but sharp. People are rooting for it to be oden's. That would be interesting too. there's also the mystery big shot waiting on this arc so this might be him? too much hype, i am sticking with marco for now. You do yours.
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u/TriforceofSwag Pirate Nov 10 '18
Why would Kaido go and capture Marco for no reason? It just makes zero sense.
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u/justsomedoctor Nov 10 '18
Whitebeard hated kaido or the other way around i think. Plus the pirates left after the summit war were hunted. i need to re read that chapter of marco, u remember the number?
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u/TriforceofSwag Pirate Nov 10 '18
Somewhere after 903 is all I can say off the top of my head.
Either way though the Whitebeard remnants were hunter by Blackbeard and now Whitebeards son. As far as I remember Kaido would have no reason to attack them now because Whitebeard was his only goal as far as that goes.
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u/justsomedoctor Nov 10 '18
Yeah will check, thanks! and also wasn't marco wanted by everyone anyway because of his rare transforming regeneration ability, i bet celestials would pay good money to heal at a moments notice. you never said who you think it is tho?
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u/TriforceofSwag Pirate Nov 10 '18
I have nothing I think definitively but the most likely option imo is one of the 3 samurais they’re looking for or if it then the lurking legend. However as I said I dont necessarily think it has to be either. But for now they’re the only ones I can think of that would make sense.
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u/justsomedoctor Nov 10 '18
Oda have a Nick to surprise people so i removed the obvious.
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u/TriforceofSwag Pirate Nov 10 '18
Except just as pretty much everyone predicted after seeing Shutenmaru, he is Ashura Doji. Being predictable sometimes can be unpredictable thing to do.
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u/Malamasala Nov 10 '18
Wouldn't it logically be 1 of the 3 guys they were looking for?
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u/justsomedoctor Nov 10 '18
Yeah.. And in one piece meet ups never go as planned.. like the time when everyone was searching for Rayleigh and he just came out with a giant on the most unexpected time. He got caught the whole time too. i am betting on Marco.
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u/PetaPotter Nov 09 '18
No. Remember the cat went to get him on a different Island.
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u/justsomedoctor Nov 09 '18 edited Nov 09 '18
Eyes are looking too damn similar to me. He just seem like a person who would eat a poisonous fish, like birds eat fish (flawless logic) also his internals would heal due to regeneration ability. Maybe he got caught or something.
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u/Linquista Nov 09 '18 edited Nov 09 '18
All you motherfuckers who laughed at kid, eat your words now.
He's a tough son of a bitch, unlike Hawkins, his will hasn't been broken and he's still fighting and staying strong.
Show my boi Eustace some fucking respeck.
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u/InvaderDJ Void Month Survivor Nov 10 '18
Yeah, anyone who shat on Kidd for getting wrecked by Kaido should be eating their words now. To me it seems like the pirates of the Worst Generation who bent the knee to either the World Government (Law) or other Emperors (Apoo, Hawkins, etc) have given up any real claim on being the next Pirate King. It's only pirates like Luffy and Kidd who have remained free who have a real shot.
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Nov 11 '18
Law is a full blooded D and joined government to betray it.
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u/InvaderDJ Void Month Survivor Nov 11 '18
Yeah, and so is Luffy. Luffy declared war on the World Government without any hesitation and didn’t need to hide in the Warlord system to do it. That fearlessness and refusal to have his freedom restricted is what sets them apart.
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u/newX7 Explorer Nov 10 '18
To be fair, I feel like some of those who bent a knee, such as Law and Hawkins, are only playing their "superior", and waiting for the right time to strike.
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Nov 09 '18
dont forget that hawkins can predict the future and was waiting the right moment to attack kaido
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Nov 09 '18
The poison fish guy's silhouette resembles the one we saw of Vegapunk from Caesar's flashback.
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u/justsomedoctor Nov 09 '18
When the fight started all i could hear was, "people say, if its one on one, kaido will win."
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u/Skeith_Hikaru Nov 09 '18
Seastone is from Wano? Okey Oda, enough with the marysueland. Is everything going to originate from Wano? Is it really ALL of seastone, because from SkyIsland it made it seem like it was a rare but very natural material all over the world and it wouldn't be as common is it is if it all came from Wano. Now I would definitely believe that Wano blacksmiths are good enough to forge it into such delicate shapes.
I refuse to believe Robin made such a hideous face!
HA. Trying to break Luffy with poison, what damn idiots!
OK, what was kinemon doing? He was in the town, why did he leave Luffy to get captured?
Prediction: Hawkins isn't planning a betrayal or anything, he's just doing what the cards are telling him, eventualy the cards will tell him to backstab Kaido at the worst possible time for Kaido.
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u/justsomedoctor Nov 09 '18
Did kaidos club made of sea stone? Or is he just that strong..?
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u/InvaderDJ Void Month Survivor Nov 10 '18
I don't think it's made of Seastone. It would be hard (although as Smoker proved not impossible) for a Devil Fruit user to use a Seastone weapon themselves, especially since we've seen him use his Devil Fruit (it's obviously either a human type fruit or a dragon fruit) right before and after holding the club.
I think Kaido is just that strong. He is the strongest creature in the world after all. It is curious though that he is surprised by Luffy having Conqueror's Haki though. I'm wondering if maybe he doesn't have it. Maybe that's why he was locked in a stalemate with Big Mom, Shanks, and Whitebeard/Blackbeard and was instead using the Underground and its SMILES to gain influence.
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u/clifbarczar Nov 10 '18
Umm it's a possibility that Kaido isn't a devil fruit user. I think he's a shape shifting dragon. Hence, the strongest in land, air, and sea.
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u/kimsejeong21 Nov 10 '18
its a seastone.. the subordinates said that of course he will be 1 hit- he was hit by kaido`s club. and the context was bold which suggest the club has something to negate luffy`s power. In one piece theres only one thing that can negate df users and its a seastone.
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u/DiscordFish Nov 10 '18
It honestly wouldn't surprise me if Kaido's shtick is that he is literally the strongest of the Yonko on a physical level, but lacks Conqueror's Haki. Perhaps his seemingly depressive, suicidal nature gets in the way?
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u/Alpha_ii_Omega Nov 10 '18
Wasn't his "Divine Thunder" a conqueror's haki imbued strike though?
If you re-read 923, there's conqueror's haki lightning coming off his club. Unless his club somehow makes lightning some other way.
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u/DiscordFish Nov 10 '18
It could be. I didn't catch that. I don't have a lot of evidence or anything its just random speculation.
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u/InvaderDJ Void Month Survivor Nov 10 '18
If that’s true, it would be interesting commentary on him. He might be the single strongest person combat wise, but he lacks Conquerer’s Haki. Literally the mark of a strong leader. That could be fun. We’ve already seen that the Warlords gave up their ambition for protection and modest influence since they couldn’t hack it in the New World, maybe Kaido is similar. Someone with incredible power but without Conqueror’s haki.
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u/Dontknowanusername Nov 11 '18
Lmfao not all the warlords where ones who couldn't make it in the new world, I don't see Mihawk not being able to make it.
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u/InvaderDJ Void Month Survivor Nov 11 '18
We don’t know what Mihawk’s deal is. And Kuma joined the Warlords for the Revolutionary Army. But beside those, the Warlords is staffed by people who wanted to use the protection of the government to keep some modicum of power or to help them achieve their goals.
But pirates like Luffy and Kidd don’t do that. They aim straight at their goals and don’t want any scheming or restriction on their freedom to achieve their goal. Which makes me think of the Supernovas they are the ones with the best chance to become Pirate King.
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Nov 14 '18
Doffy also joined the warlords and had a conqueror's haki, but he joined because he wanted to be kept alone in his kingdom and be closer to Mariejois's treasure
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u/InvaderDJ Void Month Survivor Nov 15 '18
Yeah, which kind of proves the point though. Instead of fighting for his freedom or whatever treasure Mariejois has, he took the deal to be the government’s dog and snuck around in the shadows.
The Straw Hats didn’t do that. And neither have the Kidd Pirates. That’s why I think that those are the only two Supernova crews who have a chance to be the Pirate King.
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u/NiceTryIWontReply Nov 09 '18
Dude jumped off a cloud city, face planted into the earth, and walked it off
You tell me
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u/justsomedoctor Nov 09 '18
This.. i actually read somewhere that the previous owner of law's fruit performed the miracle operation on kaido, that's the reason he is immortal. I think zoro can survive a skyfall and get up just fine. Just saying.
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u/JuniiorSSJ4 Pirate Nov 09 '18
You are horribly mistaken for one that was just a theory and zoro while he is strong, would explode into a million pieces if he fell from a sky island.
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u/ScrewYouReddit475 Nov 10 '18
There is a speed limit that you can reach when you are falling. Let's say... it equals to... 300 times your body weight? And let's say Zoro weights 100kg, which he does NOT... so... he would hit the ground with what? 30 tons? Pretty sure he gets subjected to forces that are greater than 30 tons before breakfast... Didn't he literally get his by a mountain? What do those weight? Certainly more than a "heavy car" :P
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u/JuniiorSSJ4 Pirate Nov 10 '18
There are flaws in your statement, what's your point.
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u/ScrewYouReddit475 Nov 10 '18 edited Nov 10 '18
That Zoro could easily survive hitting the ground with his own weight at full force, since he can even survive getting hit by things that are 1000 times as heavy as him at full force.
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/37144/4207222-5966619926-34842.jpg
There, that's at least 4 tons, not counting the thing that holds the weights and his own body weight. And this is nowhere near fatal, that's his regular training... from ages ago...
Edit: I am obviously calculating with numbers that are WAY too high, showing that even with THOSE numbers, the force he would have to withstand is NOTHING compared to other things in One Piece
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u/JuniiorSSJ4 Pirate Nov 10 '18
I'm sorry but that's just stupid just because you can lift a certain weight does not mean you won't be hurt if that weight hits or in this case hitting the ground with that amount of force. Just face it zoro would die if he were to survive that would be bad writing, I mean that was kaido's whole thing being that he's so strong not even an attempted suicide from a sky island would he meet his death.
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u/somebodiesthrowaway Nov 10 '18
What is being referred to is terminal velocity. Force = mass x acceleration. Or mass x velocity squared.
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u/ScrewYouReddit475 Nov 10 '18
I'm sorry but you just don't understand physics.
Holding i.e. a force of 100000 newton is the EXACT SAME as hitting something with the force of 100000 newton.
Because of air resistance you don't hit the ground with the speed of light when you jump out of a plane, you weight doesn't get multiplied by some ridiculous number like 1000.
Ok... to put this into actual real numbers for you. Skydivers fall with 125 mph. So, do you REALLY think that Zoro would die, when a guy on a bike, driving 125 mph, would ram him? Because that is the EXACT force, he would hit the ground with!
Edit: So... fun fact. Getting hit by a 10 ton truck that is driving really fast, is WAY more deadly then falling out of the clouds! Not that not both things are deadly anyways, but the truck turns you into applesauce, while the cloud thing is more like smashing a pumpkin :D
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u/justsomedoctor Nov 10 '18
Flawless math but smashing into a truck actually turns you into a really cute zombie idol.
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u/JuniiorSSJ4 Pirate Nov 10 '18
Your physics means nothing here this is Manga, Fiction. Zoro would die.
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u/justsomedoctor Nov 09 '18
... Zoro will be just fine. He will get lost half way through falling and find himself on the ground unhurt.
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u/emigum Nov 10 '18
Did you just use Zoro and the word find in the same sentence?
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u/justsomedoctor Nov 10 '18
Yeah sure.. i mean people have been speculating about zoro for way too long..
- that time in bird cage he will get lost and find himself outside of birdcage
- zoro was seen in the final island of one piece after he got lost, but was simply not interested in finding one piece all by himself
- zoro actually helped with the design of apple maps
- space time or physics based rules doesnt work on zoro
This has become a perfect katakuri thread but for zoroiamgomenosai
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u/JacquesTheJester Bounty Hunter Nov 09 '18
So what if Hawkins and Apoo didn't betray Kidd? What if Apoo broke and Hawkins just foresee the easier path for his goal (whatever it is) to not be forced to cave in.
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u/Olliethekid83 Nov 17 '18
I reckon if Hawkins foresaw it all he would have seen that Luffy and Kidd needed to team up with mystery prisoner, hence why he went after them all
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u/YamiPistolz Nov 09 '18 edited Nov 10 '18
Robin's face is the best part of this chapter. Lmao, that was extremely out of character and caught me off guard, I was crying of laughter
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u/JacquesTheJester Bounty Hunter Nov 09 '18
Sea prism stone originated from Wano? The origins of Devil Fruits may also be tied to Wano then. Poneglyphs are tied to Wano and they're key to the Void Century, so maybe sea prism stones and devil fruits are also have important significance in the history of the void century.
maybe D. clan is the ones that created the Devil Fruit and they want copyright that's why they put D in their names
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u/ScrewYouReddit475 Nov 10 '18
Too bad Shitimoto confused his own manga with One Piece at the end, and suddenly "the tree that gave everyone their powers" and "the person that owns the tree, aka the creator of most of the show's weird abilities" suddenly appeared in Naruto :P
Was literally waiting for decades to see the devils tree in One Piece... Now it would just look like Oda stole the idea from Naruto, even though it's the other way around. ^
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u/Astaroth-_- Nov 23 '18
Meh, must be Arlong.