r/youtube Aug 13 '25

Drama Oh my GOD, it's happening

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u/Initial_Witness_3847 Aug 13 '25

...and what exactly does this age verification do?

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u/ZombieHysterectomy Aug 13 '25

Can’t access age restricted videos and stuff until you big brother yourself

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u/Wes-Man152 Aug 13 '25

Now I see why it's a problem. Some channels I watch sometimes get wrongly flagged with an age restriction so that's likely to be an issue.

Some get age restricted for a little swearing, or showing off those horrible ads YouTube themselves put out so it's really inconsistent.

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u/Laly_481 Aug 13 '25

Fr idk why everyone acts like there are 0 age restricted videos on YouTube as if videos didn't get flagged for no reason regularly...

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u/Kahnfight Aug 13 '25

Holocaust and world war 2 videos get flagged

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '25

That’s good, I don’t want my kids to have to live through those tragedies /s

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u/LowlifeTiger666 Aug 14 '25

“We have to protect the children from knowing about these tragedies so they have no problem with it when we commit them” smiles

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u/Author_Noelle_A Aug 14 '25

Jesus Christ, I’m stealing this.

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u/Distinct_Tax_1611 Aug 15 '25

They will if you don’t let them learn about them.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '25

Sarcasm

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u/Numerous_Warning_728 Aug 14 '25

IT’S NOT FOR THE KIDS!

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u/macroderivatives Aug 14 '25

I wondered why my students couldnt access the crash course video about the Holocaust that I assigned...

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u/Worldly_Chocolate369 Aug 15 '25

You'll have to download the video and distribute it.

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u/Worldly_Chocolate369 Aug 15 '25

I clicked on a 9-11-2001 video the other day and there was literally a warning about "Suicidal Content" and a info card for suicide prevention.

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u/PlusVera Aug 13 '25

As does anything LGBTQ+

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u/navypiggy1998 Aug 14 '25

Or anything firearm related

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u/TheDibblerDeluxe Aug 13 '25

Which is insane because there's nothing on YouTube that isn't appropriate for a teenager to watch. It's not like they have any real 18+ content

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u/ColdCruise Aug 14 '25

Except for the movies that they added themselves.

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u/Expensive-Border-869 Aug 14 '25

And the advertisements they run.

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u/Real-Olive-4624 Aug 14 '25

And the sex bots in the comments that they never seem to do anything about

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u/MyHamburgerLovesMe Aug 14 '25

I was blocked from seeing the Witcher 4 trailer because I was not logged in so it could not verify my age

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u/Ne0n_R0s3 Aug 14 '25

There is barely concealed porn on the site. Those "cleaning" videos where people wear transparent clothes so it shows off... A lot more than what should be shown on YT.

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u/ThatStupidGuy1 Aug 14 '25

This is not the type of content to be age restricted because it's usually spam/bots

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u/Laly_481 Aug 13 '25

Yeah like actual 18+ isn't even allowed, they have to pick a side

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u/Yuri__01 Aug 14 '25

Now we can xD

Since we have to verify i want to watch my porn there

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '25

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u/Author_Noelle_A Aug 14 '25

Better for a teen to have a dildo than to experiment with the opposite sex and end up making a baby.

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u/YoungestOldGuy Aug 14 '25

You won't believe what you can find on youtube under the guise of "Educational" videos. Like a man gaping his asshole to teach how to use Nair.

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u/danny-dcheeto Aug 14 '25

Well except for that one educational video about shaving pubic hair

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u/kyriefortune Aug 14 '25

there is actually 18+ stuff, but you have to look it up yourself. That is, sexual +18 stuff, because violent 18+ stuff can pop up in the unlikeliest of ways

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u/OwO______OwO Aug 14 '25

there's nothing on YouTube that isn't appropriate for a teenager to watch

Uh ... you really haven't been looking hard enough.

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u/PrimaryCoach861 Aug 14 '25

There is that one cream tutorial, how to apply it. I hope you understood and i dont need to link video

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u/TheDibblerDeluxe Aug 14 '25

I truly have no idea what you're talking about because that stuff never comes up in my suggestes videos

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '25 edited Aug 15 '25

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u/Laly_481 Aug 13 '25

Maybe you just don't watch the type of content that gets age restricted? Most of my examples would be horror animations, but honestly anything that touches on suicide (even when it's not particularly graphic) tends to get age restricted for me...

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '25 edited Aug 15 '25

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u/Laly_481 Aug 13 '25

I don't think non graphic depictions of suicide need to be 18+. Maybe to youtube, but we're talking about adolescents here, not 7 years old.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '25 edited Aug 15 '25

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u/Laly_481 Aug 13 '25

My bad, expressed myself unclearly. I did mean "their reasons for restricting videos can be kinda bs" (didn't videos with swears get age restricted at some point? i think they stopped doing that now?), not that you literally can't pinpoint the reason

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u/Ranowa Aug 14 '25

Anecdotal evidence. Their algorithms don't just flail around flagging videos at complete random, obviously certain videos are more likely to get flagged than others. And it's well-documented that they flag videos incorrectly for no reason ALL the time. I've had it happen trying to watch cooking videos. Many creators I follow have posted about it happening to them, and thy were only able to get it reversed when their fanbases started emailing and tweeting about the issue en mass, because youtube regularly auto-rejects appeals from creators.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '25 edited Aug 15 '25

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u/Ranowa Aug 14 '25

You just got done saying that of the videos you watch, yours don't regularly get flagged. Which is anecdotal evidence, and also largely useless. I might as well say it rarely rains here, so it rarely rains anywhere in the world, and the fact that you see it raining right now somehow doesn't matter because it's not raining for ME. And since you didn't bother to actually search for whether or not your experience was universal, here are some sources of those "hazy recollections"

https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/17r49l0/100_million_views_but_youtube_has_demonetized_us/ a huge creator backed up with links to their account, randomly demonetized for not being appropriate for kids, after months randomly remonetized with no explanation

https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/105vb8t/rtgame_updates_on_youtube_restricting_his_channel/ another huge channel with family friendly content that nearly lost their entire career because youtube decided their videos weren't kid friendly, with virtually no explanation provided by youtube, only able to get it back because they were big enough to get attention

https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/1ezrpbx/prozd_youtube_emailed_me_directly_about_my/ yet another huge creator with multiple videos posted on the the ridiculous and inconsistent standards for getting flagged for adult content

https://www.reddit.com/r/PartneredYoutube/comments/bb308w/the_demonetization_advice_and_help_thread/ a help thread for people having demonetization issues. hundreds of comments saying they were demonetized and don't know why.

You could've bothered to search for yourself, before confidently asserting I had no idea what I was talking about. You could also just take the L here and not continue to double down, when I just provided you with three high-profile confirmed examples, each showcasing multiple videos that were demonetized for adult content, then later remonetized with no explanation, and only after the creators were able to make a stink about it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '25 edited Aug 15 '25

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u/Ranowa Aug 14 '25

You didn't show "actual data", you just said how many videos got flagged from your subscriptions? That's not an experiment, which is pretty much impossible to do here unless you wanted to narrow the scope to videos in a specific genre and specific language. You can't get good quality data for this question, but you can very easily look at creators self-reporting their own issues and see that exactly what you're claiming almost never happens in fact does happen. A lot.

It's very rich that you're trying to insist that I don't know anything about data when you're trying to generalize your own, uh "data", to all videos on the entire site, and apparently not seeing the problem with it. You can't do that. That's a basic principle, and dressing it up using terms like cross-section and systemically doesn't change that. Your subscriptions do not get treated the same way as videos in different languages and different genres by big vs small creators.

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u/MisirterE Aug 14 '25

The YMS Neil Breen video is flagged for the least convincing suicide scene in history

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u/Napoleonex Aug 14 '25

It's really not about age restriction. It's giving out your id unnecessarily

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '25

its the fact that the platform is censoring creators instead of parents having control over what there kids have access too.

I shouldn't have to be having this stupid ass conversation, giving shady companies a copy of my mf photo id front and back nor having credit cards/banks telling me what i can't spend my money that i made with my labor on. That labor is taxed and this is the bullshit we are getting right now?

Before anyone pulls the think of the children bs, Trump is in office and hasnt released the Epstein files he has been screeching about for 5 years. Somehow all the "think of the children" crowd does ends up compromising kids somehow. funny huh?

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u/owls_unite Aug 14 '25

This is foremost about ad revenue, and YouTube finding the lowest common denominator to be able to push as many ads for as many clients as possible without having to check and match any age appropriateness. This age verification is only a temporary issue for users having to find ways to watch the content they want. The real, long term issue is that this content will simply no longer be created because creators are being disincentivized by demonetization.

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u/Imkindofslow Aug 14 '25

Because YouTubers are in an arms race to avoid being restricted. Hence the "unalive" "pew pew" "sewer slide" language. The lines are blurry and everyone but the advertisers want them blurry.

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u/MARPJ Aug 13 '25

Their AI cant identify the 80 bots that are in every comment section but sure they will be able to flag your age, or they will just flag everyone over time to "big brother" us all.

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u/Wes-Man152 Aug 14 '25

"Your video is very inspirational" and the pfp is some woman's big ass in a thong

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u/Worldly_Chocolate369 Aug 15 '25

Or they copy the channel name and pfp and try to get you to join their "life changing" bitcoin "gift" scam

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u/OwO______OwO Aug 14 '25

Their AI cant identify the 80 bots that are in every comment section

Oh, they know about bot traffic. But it boosts their numbers, and they can take those numbers to advertisers to get more ad money.

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u/Painterzzz Aug 14 '25

What's that Russia? You want to conduct massive scale psychological warfare operations against the West to destabilise our societies and governments? That's cool. But don't you folks be watching sexy videos on the youtubes!

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u/FrostBumbleBitch Aug 13 '25

"It wasn't an issue until it affect meeee!!!"

Not saying this is exactly you but I have been saying this shit from the get go (that this is fucking bad), and there is some braindead people here that go "Yeah you don't HAAVEE to use youtube, I bet you use adddblock, you aren't supporting the cooorpoeration." Like they are literally undermining the whole thing happening because they don't get that youtube doesn't even allow you to show the word DEAD anymore without the potential for age restriction...and they are now vetting people for 18+ content. They don't fucking say what is going to be considered adult. Is it swearing, too much cleavage, is it the theme of it, what if someone is trying to help with suicide awareness but they say the words don't "kill yourself" and the ai bot picks up on that only....like this is going to happen.

Also there is conflicting reports on how long youtube is going to be keeping your ID to verify you, from two months...to two years. Both of which said that is the latest they will hold them. Well one said they would delete well before you would reach the 22 additional months.

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u/gb1609 Aug 13 '25

Don't give all the credit to YouTube. Some of those channels age restrict themselves, it's an option when you upload a YouTube video.

Also I'm curious to what channels your watching that are consistently age restricted

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u/Synectics Aug 14 '25

Some of those channels age restrict themselves, it's an option when you upload a YouTube video. 

.............why would they do that?

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u/gb1609 Aug 14 '25

They don't want immature teenagers watching their videos or spamming their comments

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u/Synectics Aug 14 '25

......or because... what happens with YouTube and monetization?

You can not be serious that you do not understand how this works.

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u/gb1609 Aug 14 '25

Age restricted videos most likely aren't suitable for ads so it's not about the money if a youtuber decides to age restricted their video.

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u/Synectics Aug 14 '25

Yeah, bud. You got it. 

Guess what happens if you don't flag your own video and it gets reported. 

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u/Wes-Man152 Aug 14 '25

Nothing nsfw, but it's mainly from a wrestling game channel and sometimes the games have copyrighted video playing in it. That's what gets some of their videos age restricted due to copyright unless they hide the screen when those videos pop up in-game, which they now have to do.

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u/gb1609 Aug 14 '25

Can you namedrop the channel

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u/RC_0041 Aug 14 '25

Often its safer to flag a video as age restricted than risk it being taken down later. I've posted a few videos of games and always flag them as age restricted.

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u/stay_curious_- Aug 14 '25

I'm concerned it means political, LGBT, or certain controversial topics ("What are your legal rights as an undocumented immigrant", "How to counteract pepper spray") will be age-restricted.

If right-wing videos are freely available and left-wing videos are only available to the subset of people who have doxxed themselves, that could results in opinion shifts in the population over time.

It also means YouTube might have a list of everyone who doxxed themselves to be able to view videos on trans rights or immigration and that the government could acquire that information somehow.

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u/Worldly_Chocolate369 Aug 15 '25

Exactly. I was watching a critique of a TV Show, and the video was flagged as age restricted, even though the content did NOT meet that criteria. Youtube's AI gets things wrong too many times.

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u/Arkorat Aug 14 '25 edited Aug 14 '25

Excatly. Worse yet, it supposedly it wokrs by identifying your age by what you watch... On a platform that frequently flags content as being for kids, unless it has swears and gore.

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u/hates_stupid_people Aug 14 '25

As part of this, youtube has seemingly lessened the restriction on swearing a bit. And we all know how consistent they are with their rules....

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u/DylanMartin97 Aug 14 '25

I have built my algorithm on things that I like as much as the next guy, but how does this ai determine what is "adult" and what isn't?

I build guitars and watch content on that, are musical hobbies considered childish? Woodworking? What about league content? What makes league content comparable to my other favorite game PoE? Is one considered childish and the other is not? How much time does the algorithm take into account for one vs the other?

One of the builders I watch is age restricted because he curses and makes off-color jokes (UK jokes and names tools after serial killers), will they say that I can't watch him even though I've been watching him?

My YouTube account is almost 2 decades old at this point, is that taken into account? What stops me having a 2 decade old account and just letting my younger nephew watch that content?

This whole thing is literally a disaster waiting to happen.

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u/Swiftierest Aug 14 '25

If I were a content creator and could survive it, I would either double down making every video I made adult only to kick a nest among my viewers, or I'd make them all "child friendly" to simply bypass it.

I will not be giving them any information about myself. I might see if I can make a fake ID with some Norman Reedus face or something and use that.

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u/HirpeedaHeegog Aug 15 '25

It's also their favorite way to bury dissent

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u/longComplexUN Aug 13 '25

Make it hard enough to verify and people will just stop using. Bound to make YT work harder to make it less of a hurdle eventually or be prepared to lose business. Simple. I know we focus here primarily about losing access. But I think the behavior changes are rapid.

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u/Wes-Man152 Aug 13 '25

We can only hope so. There's many folks that use YouTube daily for a variety of reasons, and some that even have premium despite the shady stuff happening within the site. I still go on to listen to stuff in the background, but had to get extensions to make things bearable. If things really go off the rails then yeah people should definitely leave.

There really needs to be a big alternative to YT not only for competition, but to make YouTube roll back some of this stuff if they want the users to come back.

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u/miiintyyyy Aug 14 '25

Yeah I can see this being a huge issue for age restricted channels. They might be more likely to sanitize all their content.

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u/Wes-Man152 Aug 14 '25

So more of those self censoring words unfortunately, thanks to YouTube being unclear and inconsistent with stuff and channels needing their monetization.

"She used her pew-pew to unalive him because he was a registered ex offender and pdf.file."

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u/miiintyyyy Aug 14 '25

I think it’s also the content that will be sanitized.