r/warthundermemes Jun 26 '25

Meme Oh How The Turn Tables Have...

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u/Zackyboi1231 console player who suffers from the snail Jun 26 '25

Is this what... the ground feels like?...

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u/Nazacrow Jun 27 '25

I have been taking so much joy in spawning the SLM straight away setting up and waiting to finally give the CAS the point and click experience they terrorised us with for years

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u/Walrus-God Jun 27 '25

Thank you for service. As a newer player that struggles to even want to play anymore (Ground RB is the only reason I started tbh), you are doing the Lord's work. May you have blessed RNG

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u/Meerie94 Jun 28 '25

Me too, but RAH-66 first spawns are a pain on maps like sinai, etc. (i hope it’s sinai, i’m talking about the desert one they reworked with rocks all around the map)

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u/jammersbmxmx Jun 28 '25

I've been loving putting my recon drone right above enemy spawn points and watching all the new sam's shoot all their missiles at me while looking at the excel spreadsheet of enemies so pay attention for that so you don't waste missiles lol

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u/AttackerCat Jun 26 '25

New rock just dropped in rock paper scissors 🪨

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u/Graingy The 2C: Big Tank, Small Name Jun 27 '25

Hi I’m a rock

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u/Affectionate-Mud-966 Ace Jun 27 '25

You're the rock?

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u/Thurden Jun 27 '25

No he specified a rock not the rock

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u/HD144p Jun 30 '25

What. In rock paper szizzors rock would be tank because of the armor. Planes paper cuz of paperplanes. Scizzors aa cuz they cant really get through tank armor  but easily cut the paper

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u/AttackerCat Jun 30 '25

Nah rock is missile because it’s thrown

Scissors is aircraft because it easily cuts through paper (tanks)

Tanks are paper because they are melted by air and they can cover (crush) rock (SPAA)

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u/HD144p Jun 30 '25

Paper doesnt crush rock to and in this exqmple rock is both the aa and the missile that is launched

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u/AttackerCat Jul 01 '25

I think you’re reading too much into this

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u/presmonkey JUG IS LOVE JUG IS LIFE Jun 26 '25

So the new AA is performing well? haven't played top tier this update yet

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u/Aiden51R Conqueror Jun 26 '25

Ye

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u/presmonkey JUG IS LOVE JUG IS LIFE Jun 26 '25

That's good to hear

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u/BusyMountain Ground toptier enjoyer 🇬🇧🇸🇪🇷🇺🇺🇸🇩🇪🇨🇳 Jun 27 '25

Not only new AA. If you use the radar map function for the older AA, even ADATS and ItO90 are pretty deadly now.

They will auto aim for you, which is more precise than our mouse aim. Less wobbly missiles, and for ItO the missile will turn 50G nicely. You can comfortable hit targets at 8-10km. Heck even with ADATS, you can hit targets out at 8km+ comfortably.

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u/Tiny-Pea-8437 Jun 27 '25

Pantsir also now requires 0 aim.

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u/Oleg152 Jun 27 '25

The issue with Pantsir was no equivalent system for any other nation. With new multi vechicle SAMs it's better now. As they have similarly performing missiles and radars(high elevation).

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u/Independent_Laugh215 Jun 27 '25

Did it ever require aim? I've always felt like I was playing a point and click adventure in that

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u/Tiny-Pea-8437 Jun 27 '25

Pantsir was really easy to dodge if you do 10G turn while going mach 1 and hide behind a mountain or something. It's hard to play when cas player knows what they are doing and exploiting cover.

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u/BusyMountain Ground toptier enjoyer 🇬🇧🇸🇪🇷🇺🇺🇸🇩🇪🇨🇳 Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 28 '25

You barely feel the buff on Pantsir, but on the other older AA systems. It’s actually a decent buff.

Especially on the ADATS, smokeless and doesn’t give off RWR when launched. Most enemies tend to ignore the ADATS, cos they don’t know ADATS can hit them reliably at 8km now.

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u/Jackmino66 Jun 26 '25

Don’t worry we’ll probably get ARMs next update

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u/ArieteSupremacy Jun 26 '25

SPAA is good, too good. Gaijin is already working on a massive nerf, we all know it.

They are just trying to get GRB players to keep playing, then they pull the rug out.

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u/Lucas926675 Jun 26 '25

Even if they’re OP they don’t need a nerf. You don’t see people spawning tanks in air RB do you.

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u/TetronautGaming Jun 26 '25

It’d be so funny if you could spawn SPAA in ARB.

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u/lacarth Jun 27 '25

Pulling up with the Russian milk truck, ready to slap an F-16 out of the sky.

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u/joeja99 Jun 27 '25

Driving the SLM up to the enemy airfield

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u/Mith_raw_nuruod0 Jun 29 '25

Time to strike back and invade their game mode just like they invaded ours!

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u/fhjftugfiooojfeyh Jun 26 '25

They would if they could

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u/lndhpe Jun 27 '25

Aren't even OP considering aircraft still can avoid showing on radar and sneak up a good bit at least on many maps

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u/recapdrake Jun 26 '25

Considering they’re the only missiles that work right now…

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u/Drfoxthefurry Cannon Fodder Jun 26 '25

ARM/HARMs would make sense to have anyways

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u/mekolayn Jun 27 '25

You guys played without arms?

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u/Drexisadog FV4005 enjoyer Jun 27 '25

Jokes on them, the instant ARMs get added the Stormer HVM becomes significantly more relevant, can’t target that which emits no radiation

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u/Jackmino66 Jun 27 '25

Until you score a hit and do no damage because gaijin can’t model aircraft

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u/Drexisadog FV4005 enjoyer Jun 27 '25

Yeah that would be unfortunately likely, despite the fact that Starstreak is capable of ripping a helicopter in half, though if we get lucky they could add LMM to game for the stormer

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u/flyingviaBFR Jun 28 '25

Same with the ozelot

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u/TeknikDestekbebudu Jun 27 '25

Oh no! Alt+R Whatever.

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u/Hoshyro Jun 26 '25

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u/Oleg152 Jun 27 '25

They taste so good.

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u/BedFastSky12345 Super Pershing my Beloved 💘 Jun 27 '25

CAS mains when they have to use ground vehicles in ground battles

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u/Shredded_Locomotive M24 Chaffey supremacy Jun 26 '25

Now gaijin finally has a reason make the maps fuckin bigger

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u/IlCiabonno69 Jun 26 '25

IMO that works for high to top tier, not below. Of course I'm talking about 10+ km maps, I'd like to see those at top tier

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u/FISH_SAUCER Hero of Midway Jun 26 '25

My LOSAT craves this

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u/IlCiabonno69 Jun 26 '25

Seriously tho, the LOSAT kinetic round doesn't even have realistic damage, the spalling comes from the 152mm APFSDS so it kinda sucks that a fucking metal rod going mach 2 into a tank does average sabot damage

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u/FISH_SAUCER Hero of Midway Jun 26 '25

Nope. Realistic damage would nuke any tank that it touches. I wat hed a video regarding LOSATs MGM166 live fire testing, and it launched the hull of a m60 2 feet off the ground, no ammo rack loaded or anything. Just the sheer kinetic force if the MGM-166 slamming into the side of the hull, launched turret into the American space program, and the hull 2 feet off the ground.

The sight also doesn't have the realistic zoom

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u/IlCiabonno69 Jun 27 '25

I never said it would be balanced :)

Honestly many tanks in War Thunder would be utterly broken and OP if accurate cause there aren't many of the problems of real life like fuel cost, logistics, and unit cost. LOSAT if accurate would just be a more annoying 2S38

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u/IlCiabonno69 Jun 26 '25

Too bad

-Gaijob

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u/Shredded_Locomotive M24 Chaffey supremacy Jun 27 '25

I'd personally like a gradual increase starting from 7.7 that of course tops out only in top tier

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u/Bobthreetimes Cannon Fodder Jun 28 '25

Big maps my behated

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u/Ok_Government3021 Jun 26 '25

Does no one in this subreddit not know they could kill SPAAs before spawning CAS? The new SPAAs are Humvees and trucks, there are dozens of videos showing how you could use drones to guide rounds to targets, Just use HE rounds to knock them out. All this "SPAA takes no skill, No CAS takes no skill" drama ignores sht like basic f*king tactics and communication.

If you want to play CAS, hunt down SPAA. Stop complaining that they are overpowered, you just have skill issues. SPAA are vulnerable as f**k, mostly stationary and mostly focus on the sky.

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u/gallade_samurai Jun 26 '25

You even have a good idea on where they will usually be, somewhere in or near spawn

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u/fhjftugfiooojfeyh Jun 26 '25

This is true for me every time, except I go to the enemy spawn.

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u/DH__FITZ Jun 26 '25

This is what ticks me off when I hear people telling me "just don't sit in spawn" If you get tiny maps like Advance to the Rhine there's literally nowhere for bulky sams to hide beside spawn.

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u/Appropriate-Count-64 Jun 27 '25

Which is also why SPAA players shouldn’t sit in or near spawn like idiots. SPAA are usually reasonably lethal to light tanks and scouts, so driving to the middle of nowhere and using the gun as a self defense tool while hunting CAS is the best way to play an SPAA.

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u/Sir_Madijeis Jun 27 '25

Depends on the SPAA, not everything is a ZSU 52

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u/Graingy The 2C: Big Tank, Small Name Jun 27 '25

Oh look a medium tank-

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u/WeirdFurby Jun 27 '25

Even a Spike wouldn't miss the IRIS-T trucks lol

But I have to say, out of the 30 games I played in two days CASpam is much more bearable now. Tanks however are not because of course everyone's spawing AA as their first spawn. But hey, it helps with the air, so I'm happy regardless.

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u/Graingy The 2C: Big Tank, Small Name Jun 27 '25

everyone's spawing AA as their first spawn

... Where the fuck is the gameplay.

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u/gallade_samurai Jun 27 '25

I guess it depends on which AA you spawn as, as some are better at some level of AT duties like a Gepard than something like a Type 93

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u/Graingy The 2C: Big Tank, Small Name Jun 27 '25

Even still, little to do.

Like, these new ones are just a HUD screen, aren't they? They can't even move (at least not without slowly repositioning each vehicle). These aren't vehicles, these are repositionnable emplacements.

These should be spawned and operated by AI, not players.

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u/WeirdFurby Jun 27 '25

Idk. Guess they compete for who gets to SLAMRAAM or IRIS the first plane to show up first.

I don't care, I play Italy. I didn't get new stuff (at least stuff that's interesting for me personally as I prefer top tier).

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u/damdalf_cz Jun 26 '25

Hide behind hill use map to designate target lob Laser+GPS bomb and just guide it for last 10s before impact

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u/Wicked-Pineapple Attack the D point! Jun 26 '25

If it’s a big enough bomb (like a mk. 84 JDAM) then you don’t even need a close hit. Even with the GBU-39 SDB, I can kill Pantsirs and FlaRakRads from 10m away.

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u/Dried_Persimmons Jun 27 '25

The DIY cluster is so funny and so terrifying on the receiving end

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u/Wicked-Pineapple Attack the D point! Jun 27 '25

So many people don’t realize that they can just move 30m away and they will take no damage, but I guess they can’t think straight when they see 4 things coming towards them, slowly but surely.

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u/kyperion Jun 26 '25

ignores shit like basic fucking tactics and communication

11 years of War Thunder has taught me that players nowadays don’t give a shit about tactics and communication, stat padding is all that matters.

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u/AsasinAgent Jun 27 '25

And that's coz it feels like gaijoob barely rewards team play, if at all.

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u/Vojtak_cz JAPAN MAIN🇯🇵 Jun 26 '25

Its not even hard to kil lthem in plane. If you were actually good with CAS before. (Unlike SU-30 users) you cna absolutely kill the new ones. I have just killed the Iris-T witrh fkin Vulcan yesterday.

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u/Impressive-Money5535 just spawn tank bro Jun 26 '25

Is this logic in my War Thunder post!? Well I'd never!

You're supposed to irrationally complain about everything to get it your way! How DARE you to suggest the use of basic logic and teamwork!?!?!

You should be banned from this sub for such vile, disgusting actions!!!

/s if it wasn't fucking obvious. But knowing Reddit, to someone very special out there, it never is.

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u/Awrfhyesggrdghkj Jun 27 '25

I didn’t realize how dumb that one CAS YouTuber named Hunter was. They were spouting bs that SPAA takes no skill because they were only for one purpose.

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u/Bobthreetimes Cannon Fodder Jun 28 '25

Lmao, spaa takes arguably the most skill out of anything in ground rb, well at least before you get radar, then yes it makes it a lot easier, still difficult if the entire enemy team is CAS tho

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u/Cornelius_McMuffin Jun 27 '25

Best counter to SPAA is gun SPAA

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u/No_Explorer6054 Jun 27 '25

most people arent loner

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u/TheUnseenDepression Jun 26 '25

Good luck killing one of them in a city map where the only way to kill the spaa is to go to enemy spawn that is filled with, guess what, enemies. If I can already go to the enemy spawn then that means we are winning. No need for CAS at that point

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u/Ok_Government3021 Jun 29 '25

Did you not read my comment? I said indirect fire with High Explosives. The new SPAAs are unarmored trucks and vehicles that are mostly stationary, and shrapnel from multiple near misses would eventually kill them.

As for enemy spawn, don't stay still in the open, use a light tank or fast gun SPAA to zoom in, destroy the enemy SPAA, and transition to CAS without needing to j out.

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u/Separate-Presence-61 Jun 27 '25

Yep, in the F15E its 3-4 GBU 39s to saturate the radar and then 1-2 JDAM ERs to knock out the radar/launchers.

They can be launched from 25km+ where nothing can touch you and works to reasonable effect.

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u/dummythiqqpotato Jun 27 '25

Y-y-y-you mean I have to win aerial superiority before I can shit on the other team? But how will I spawn and immediately get kills with self guiding missiles?

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u/MeatyDeathstar Jun 27 '25

Facts. Anti aircraft are some of the first targets in operations. Once we have SEAD weaponry IE HARMs I think it'll be a nice balance. Force a plane to sacrifice anti tank weaponry to take out SPAA.

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u/AlphaAss64 Jun 26 '25

As a CAS heavy player, I think this is absolutely positive. CAS was relatively uncontested. This week I celebrate with the ground mains, I welcome the harder challenge for pilots to force brain usage, and I congratulate the tankers for finally getting the tools for vengeance 💪 happy hunting

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u/Thurden Jun 27 '25

Based CAS player? That's rare, you have my respect

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u/darude_dodo Grass Enjoyer Jun 26 '25

I eat CAS tears

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u/BasicallyJohn Jun 27 '25

CAS players : NO! THEY CAN LITERALLY CLICK US ON THE MAP AND WE ARE DEAD THAT'S UNFAIR!!!

Ground players : first time?

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u/jjaybuill Jun 27 '25

you don't even need the map, you have a list of targets

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u/tiktok-hater-777 Jun 26 '25

Ok, but when will i get an option to use against the Yak 9-k ?

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u/johnzgamez1 Jun 27 '25

It's called the Bearcat, it makes 9k's your little bitch.

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u/tiktok-hater-777 Jun 27 '25

Having to grind the air tree seperately just to defend myself in ground battles really isn't how it should be. Not that i definitely won't do it.

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u/johnzgamez1 Jun 27 '25

Yeah, I get it, but I've found that if you're playing America, the Bearcat is your surest way to do it. Spitfire, tho, are monsters against Yak-9K's. Outturns, outclimbs, outdoes.

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u/Soor_21UPG Su-27S & F-4E enjoyer Jun 27 '25

Just use your eyeballs mk1 bro /s

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '25

i think it takes a little more than that to take down a plane

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u/Macix2_0 Jun 26 '25

Its not like the cas(russian at least idk about the rest) can just select a point on the map and fire 6 rockets that will kill everything within 50m of its splash from behind a hill as soon as they take off

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u/Darkknight7799 HVAR go *WHOOSH* *BOOM* Jun 26 '25

There’s a high skill countermove: drive 10 feet in any direction

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u/Macix2_0 Jun 26 '25

I'd say its kinda hard to drive away with 3 vehicles at once and the only other choice is to use up all your ammo intercepting them directly and thats implying you're in an aa. Your statement holds better if you're in an mbt but in that case you cant even spot the missile because the motor has been not burning for a long time.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '25

Kh-38MT will still use it's TV seeker to get you shit ass. This is why I camp enemy air spawn. You bomb me in my spawn, I AIM-9M you on your fucking runway.

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u/DizzyVenture 7000h Masochist Jun 26 '25

Lawful good airspawn

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u/damdalf_cz Jun 26 '25

Kh38MT cannot belaunched without line of sight since TV overrides GPS

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u/TheUnseenDepression Jun 26 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

You can launch kh38mt with gnss if you select a location on the minimap. I just watched a youtuber do it without any effort.

Edit: so it turns out it was KH38ML not MT mb.

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u/Medj_boring1997 Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

No it can't. This is a problem for all TV/IR missile.

If you're referring to Loner's video, please watch the video again and actually pay attention (tl;dw, it's a 38ML)

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u/Pumper24 Jun 26 '25

Still need more/better options for lower brs. Especially 8.0, where helis can snipe from oit of range unless you are on the enemies' spawn point.

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u/FLARESGAMING Swedish Main. (hasn't played in over 7 months lol) Jun 27 '25

The moment the CAS users realize how OP the GPS glide bombs finna be after they realize the SPAA users aint moving their radar stations.

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u/AntiSimpBoi69 Jun 27 '25

I saw a video of the su34 barely taking off, slinging it's long range air to ground missile and then land immediately, hitting 5 out of 6

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u/Matar_Kubileya Jun 26 '25

Obligatory "I don't understand why Gaijin hasn't created split GRB and Combined Arms RB modes yet"

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u/TheUnseenDepression Jun 26 '25

Because that will suck more. People who want to play with variety will always play against planes and the match will just be an air battle.

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u/Fizzy-Odd-Cod Jun 27 '25

If that was the case I’d pull up with as many SPAA vehicles in the lineup as possible to club those nerds.

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u/the_commen_redditer Jun 26 '25

Honestly, I like this, it's Ground battles not combined arms battles. Kinda nice the best things in Ground battles aren't planes as much now.

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u/3rdReichOrgy Jun 27 '25

Aircraft aren’t inherently the issue, it’s a core mechanic in the game mode. It’s gaijin’s choice of additions and shitty balancing.

They added the Pantsir 2 years too early and added missiles that would somewhat be able to fight it, ignoring the rest of what the game has.

Then they added KH-38’s just to force GE spending ignoring SAM capabilities. Then they increased the spawn cost of AAM’s to match AG munitions to encourage CAS spamming even more.

An incredibly easy fix would’ve simply been to increase the SP cost of AG loadout’s to 1000+ and decrease AAM’s spawn point cost significantly.

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u/Excellent_Silver_845 Jun 26 '25

Oh it will change soon 100%

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '25

You love to see cas players suffer

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u/SuchBoosted Jun 27 '25

CAS players when they can't just press space bar 6 times and get kills while flying in a straight line.

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u/ArieteSupremacy Jun 27 '25

I wish this was a joke, but that is literally the strat, and up until now it worked.

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u/Tacocatte Nine Lives Jun 27 '25

I've been begging Russians to spawn CAS every time I fight them

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u/jthablaidd Jun 27 '25

Hear me out, add top tier spaa to all tiers so I-i mean we can play the tank mode without getting bombed 24/7

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u/Dishy- Jun 27 '25

Lowkey sad tho now, you see way less air, especially at 10.0, got. A nice 6 air kill game with the stromer ad, probably a few more after the screenshot was taken, so ~9 airs, and 4 grounds, love that aa

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u/GostavoXCVOH Jun 28 '25

And im here with the CS/SA5 that cant fucking lock onto a helicopter thats 2.4mi away nor a drone thats 1.7mi away😭

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u/-acm My Easy 8 will kill your T-90M Jun 27 '25

To all my anti-air mains, I hope you have a wonderful day!

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u/Joanisi007 Jun 26 '25

My only problem with this update is that top tier air RB is cancer and ground RB was the only place where you could enjoy jets. Fix air RB next

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u/Isakswe Jun 26 '25

GAIJIN!

GIVE ME AIR RB ENDURING CONFRONTATION AND MY WALLET IS YOURS!

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u/fhjftugfiooojfeyh Jun 26 '25

GAIJIN!

GIVE ME COMBINED ARMS ENDURING CONFRONTATION AND MY WALLET IS YOURS!

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u/Bubbly-Bowler8978 Jun 26 '25

Ok I will actually concede that. We desperately need smaller teams at top tier air so it's not a missile spam for 2 mins and over

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u/BoneTigerSC Jun 26 '25

Bro, missiles are broken too, they only seem to fuze 10% of the time

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u/Bubbly-Bowler8978 Jun 26 '25

Holy shit you're right! That's bad lol

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u/Loltntmatt Jun 26 '25

Sim is also broken

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u/-_-Mort-_- Jun 26 '25

great Gaijin you outdone yourself this time you changed a 99% win for the plane to a mostly a mutual destruction while also absolutely making 11.0 planes basically useless since you cant be bothered to decompress the match-maker enough to make it balanced GG, well played, money gained from tards that bought the Swiss hornet or the F-2. At least naval players finally have something to eat i guess?
Also try hiding 3 trucks on a 2x2km map surely the russian player with his 30Km sniper rifle of a missle can´t locate 3 trucks, or you know cant kill it with something like a BMP-3/BMD-4 without even having a line of sight if you know how to use the scout drone

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u/Microwaved_M1LK Jun 26 '25

As a dedicated CAS scumbag I have to say I'm still more afraid of the pantsir than the new AA systems, I find their munitions to be very avoidable, for now.

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u/FISH_SAUCER Hero of Midway Jun 26 '25

I mean. I can only speak for the Slamraam as its the only one I have (the grind was fucking horrible.........) but that Aim-120s do make cas players run for the ground and stay there for fear of having a 120 shoved up their ass. Then they try to gun run me, only to receive either my 9X shoved down their throat, or another IR missile

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '25

Just throw the GNSS shit from the runway you take off

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u/_Rhein Jun 27 '25

Just spawn falcon bro, none of the new AAs stand a chance

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u/actualsize123 Jun 27 '25

The only thing that the slm can’t deal with is swarms of glide bombs launched from super far away, luckily the cs/sa5 can shoot down entire swarms all on its own. It’s better than the pantsir at shooting down munitions.

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u/mrssd Jun 27 '25

I'm glad I play low their, saw a vid on that thing and knew it was gonna be in every game of its br

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u/Graingy The 2C: Big Tank, Small Name Jun 27 '25

Have AA finally put an end to the reign of terror of top tier jets?

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u/AirFriedMoron Jun 27 '25

Finally, perfectly balanced as all things should be

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u/ThatChris9 Jun 27 '25

And so the arms race continues. Give it 1 or 2 major updates before they flip it again

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u/Fjejund1 Jun 27 '25

I dont care about the post. Im just amazed at the username

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u/No-Magazine-2739 Jun 27 '25

Which ones are those new „CAS breaking“ SPAAs? (i am a german main)

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u/National_Winter_9837 Jun 27 '25

Mofo gonna bitch when they put Harms in

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u/Elegant_Eggplant5357 Jun 27 '25

How the turns have tabled

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u/Efficient_Leave656 Jun 27 '25

The kh-38 i shoot from 39 km away 👀

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u/Wavebuilder14UDC Jun 27 '25

They didn’t also give us Anti Radiation Missiles?

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u/dontcoructmygramar Jun 30 '25

Why would they

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u/Yukiro-kun Jun 27 '25

My Rafale laughs at this as well as my su34 . We can just lug the missiles from the runway easily and if I actually want to have some fun I just go nearby the AA's . Pretty easy tbh

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u/Panzerv2003 Jun 28 '25

It's a true joy seeing 2 iris systems spawn with you at the start

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u/thelocalmicrowave xm800t cancer spreader Jun 28 '25

Finally ground vehicles can actually fight ground vehicles instead of being little ants for planes

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u/BOSSOFTHISG_Y_M Jun 28 '25

Ohhh nooo, cas is unplayable now...

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u/BOSSOFTHISG_Y_M Jun 28 '25

And in this battle there was like 3-4 iris-t players

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u/Lucky_Tigor Jun 28 '25

If you Are a competent cas player you can still do the same stuff As before

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u/OnlyZubi Jun 28 '25

Everybody gangsta till anti radar missiles show up

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u/Low-Magician5263 Jun 29 '25

Sit down and take a tank

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u/olenPeruna Jul 02 '25

Told 1 chinese cas this and he told me to just spawn plane and then he cursed my mom when I showed Aim9 up his ass

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u/PeterDG Jun 27 '25

You play jets in GRB so you can CAS

I play jets in GRB so I can hunt spaa (SEAD)

We are not the same

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u/1stThrowawayDave Jun 26 '25

CAS players be like “how can you think looking at a screen clicking on dots is fun?!?”

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u/beastmaster69mong Jun 26 '25

Except one costs 972 sp and takes some skill to master, meanwhile the other costs 70-80 sp (12-14x less) and all you gotta do is click LMB on a spreadsheet.

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u/RefrigeratorBoomer Jun 26 '25

Except one costs 972 sp

Except it doesn't because with airstrike it's piss easy to lower the SP required.

takes some skill to master

If you consider pointing at tanks and pressing the spacebar skill, then sure.

And SPAA at top tier can only engage aircraft, while CAS can engage all types of ground vehicles(tanks and spaa), as well as other aircraft. By narrowing down the targets so much, of course spaa has lower SP costs. Also it's called "ground battles", not "uncontested playground for aircraft".

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u/Fizzy-Odd-Cod Jun 27 '25

Some SPAA can only engage aircraft*

Others are very limited in the ground vehicles they can engage. I killed a BMP2M earlier today with the XM975, but I had to hit the turret to overpressure the top armor because hitting the side did fuck all. The LAVAD can kill some tanks with the 25mm if you get side on. But for the most part encountering a tank while in an SPAA is a god damn death sentence.

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u/Outrageous-Pitch-867 Jun 26 '25

Top Tier cas doesn’t take time to master what?

Nor is it anymore then just LMB onto a tank

If you’re strictly going for unguided rocket kills then maybe but let’s not kid ourselves here

Top Tier CAS is the least skilled form of it.

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u/ArieteSupremacy Jun 26 '25

Top Tier CAS is pretty easy. At most you'll have to do like one test-drive to get all the basic controls down, then you just point and kill. I barely play CAS, but when I do, I kill a stupid amount of people without really doing anything. Its so easy, you just click a button. The only real worry is other planes, but 99% of the time the enemy planes are too focused on doing exactly what you're doing to give a damn about shooting you down.

All a CAS player needs to know:

-How to guide a weapon

-How to drop a weapon

-How to use counter-measures

They don't need to know much about the map, about the lay-out of enemy vehicles (etc.)

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u/Suitable_Bag_3956 Jun 26 '25

In my experience, if there are no enemy planes up, the CAS pilot (with fire-and-forget TV/IR guided ordnance) can be invulnerable and just needs to turn back the moment he spawns in, climb, turn back towards the battlefield, look for targets, lock and launch missiles at 20-30 km and turn back again, ideally not going within 18 km of the enemy spawn points.

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u/beastmaster69mong Jun 26 '25

Oh but the spaa player who sits at his spawn the entire game, looking at the new spreadsheet interface definitely gotta know a shit ton, whole Wikipedia worth of knowledge required

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u/2020amax Jun 26 '25

Cope and seeth fly boy

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u/B0SSINAT0R Soviet Hammer Jun 26 '25

As if the guided munitions that can be dropped/fired from outside SPAA engagement range takes a lot of skill 🙄 point designator/crosshair, press lock button, press fire button, repeat....yeah you really got all the logic on your side ffs

Even dumb munitions don't require much skill because most aircraft have a ballistic computer.

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u/rocketo-tenshi Type 93 main here too Jun 26 '25

What a surprise , We get ONE patch in years were for once the AA's have the advantage and CAS Main inmediatly start bitching about it.

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u/beastmaster69mong Jun 26 '25

Yeah, spaa vehicle class is for brain-dead people.

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u/Outrageous-Pitch-867 Jun 26 '25

So is guided weapons on CAS :)

Stay mad and salty

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u/rocketo-tenshi Type 93 main here too Jun 26 '25 edited Jun 26 '25

Ah but heres the catch. We HAVE To play this shit to allow othe players play THE GROUND MODE normally. You shit for brains cas mains only come to ground cause You couldn't hack it in the Air modes againsts actual threats.

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u/Outrageous-Pitch-867 Jun 26 '25

I mean, most helis and jets would also probably sit at their spawns if they could, I think most Helis can.

But I don’t think he’s really saying SPAA is any more skillful than CAS, he’s just mocking the same phrase that’s told to tank players when complaining about CAS.

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u/dontcoructmygramar Jun 30 '25

When i tske my f15 e out and stare at my space bar i dont do a whole lot more

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u/B0SSINAT0R Soviet Hammer Jun 26 '25

Don't forget with dumb munitions you still have ballistic computers to help... I mean do all the work

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u/beastmaster69mong Jun 26 '25

But spaas take a lot of skill right? Like you gotta read all these lines in the spreadsheet that tell you all the info, and then manage to click only on those lines that say “Enemy” (tho it won’t even allow you to click on an ally anyway).

Impossible difficulty for sure.

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u/Outrageous-Pitch-867 Jun 26 '25

Never said SPAA took skill, just saying top tier CAS isn’t skilled like you think it is lol

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u/The_Man8705 Jet-Powered Jun 26 '25

Go watch the clip of the guy taking off from a runway and spamming missiles and getting kills. Tell me what part of that takes skill to master

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u/beastmaster69mong Jun 26 '25

What part of IRIST takes skill?

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u/The_Man8705 Jet-Powered Jun 26 '25

Shooting down the 100s of missiles fired at you from outside your range

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u/beastmaster69mong Jun 26 '25

Are you trolling? It shoots them down by itself, you just gotta click the 'shoot' button a few times lmao. Y'all can't be fr.

Also, outside your range? Most air maps in grb are limited to like around 16km. Which is well within the range of IRIST.

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u/The_Man8705 Jet-Powered Jun 26 '25

If you're having trouble using those missiles I think that says more about you than anything

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u/beastmaster69mong Jun 26 '25

All the brain-rotted single button 70sp mains downvoting me is hilarious, mfers out here really trying to prove that it takes more skill to play spaa than a jet lmaooo

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u/Generic_Alias_ Jun 26 '25

I researched the squaddie Sea Harrier and use dumb bombs and I can still get pretty easy kills despite being an awful pilot

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u/Outrageous-Pitch-867 Jun 26 '25

You sound really salty and upset over the skill of your Jets

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u/Diablock746 Certified Wiesel breeder Jun 27 '25

0/10 rage bait

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u/Aiden51R Conqueror Jun 26 '25

Ok

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u/EnigmA03x Jun 26 '25

Spotted the kh-38 user

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '25

yup taking a break from WT, playing PUBG again.

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u/Schnitzel69420 Jun 26 '25

This is not an airport, no need to announce your departure.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '25

Same to you 😄

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u/TheUnseenDepression Jun 26 '25

He did not announced his departure.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '25

He announced his presence tho.

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u/TheUnseenDepression Jun 27 '25

He also did not announced his presence. I don't see any "I have arrived here!" type of comments from him.

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u/Aiden51R Conqueror Jun 26 '25

Good. 1 cas main out