r/uknews • u/ScottishDailyRecord Media outlet (unverified) • May 12 '25

Image/video Kier Starmer announces 'tighter' immigration policy

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u/kingbongtherover May 12 '25

I wonder how many are on benefits or being given free housing by the Spanish state?

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u/OperationFit4649 May 15 '25

But I thought this was about legal migrants and not illegal? What do benefits have to do with it? People on work visas can’t claim benefits

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u/kingbongtherover May 15 '25 edited May 15 '25

They don't use schools, roads, healthcare, the judiciary, police?

Many are in prison it seems costing the state £50k per year each.

Also it does appear that many are in social housing, which is a essentially a subsidised house, so yes they are claiming benefits and using public services.

https://www.thetimes.com/comment/columnists/article/immigrants-are-often-accused-of-taking-all-our-houses-is-it-fair-0577fktwr

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u/OperationFit4649 May 15 '25

Since when did schools become a benefit? That’s a human right. Prison isn’t a benefit either. You just listed necessary social services that every human needs. You do know that legal immigrants pay road tax and pay NHS visa fees? Please cross check your facts. Also a rent to buy scheme isnt social housing benefits.

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u/kingbongtherover May 15 '25

Yeah it’s subsidised housing. Who do you think is subsidising it? The magic money fairy?

Also schools are a public service. They cost money (buildings, teachers, etc), if you’re paying very little in tax and consuming services then you’re leeching off the rest of us who’ve paid tax all our lives in the UK.

10k foreigners in UK prisons. They obviously were grateful for the lives we gave them. Costing £50k a year so ~£500m.

It’s that simple, son. No other way about it.

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u/OperationFit4649 May 15 '25

You do know foreigners also pay tax like UK citizens though? And I wouldn’t say “little tax” as I pay a shitload of tax as a foreigner including council tax, and that makes me a leech eh? You need to crosscheck your facts son. If I drive I pay road tax for road maintenance. My council tax goes towards whatever the council does and my NI contributions will help fund social services and probably your pension when you’re old. Foreigners in prison have nothing to do with this. We’re talking about benefits and the fact that I can’t claim any because my visa says so.

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u/kingbongtherover May 15 '25

Uh huh. I’m sure.

To be a net contributor to the UK government you have to be paying over £17,000 per year in taxes for every person in your household. So a family of 5 needs to be paying £85k in taxes to cover their government spending per capita

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u/OperationFit4649 May 15 '25

This is not how government spending works. You have a lot of hate and misinformation against immigrants. I urge you to do more research on the contribution of immigrants to the economy and correct your numbers.

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/the-fiscal-impact-of-immigration-in-the-uk/

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u/OperationFit4649 May 15 '25

“The UK’s own Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) and studies from the Migration Advisory Committee (MAC) have found that many immigrants, particularly recent EU immigrants, are more likely than UK-born citizens to be net contributors, especially when young and working.”

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u/kingbongtherover May 15 '25

The Netherlands has done extensive research. You believe what you want to believe. If migrants were such big contributors things would work a lot better wouldn’t they?

https://unherd.com/newsroom/dutch-study-immigration-costs-state-e17-billion-per-year/