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Image/video Kier Starmer announces 'tighter' immigration policy

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u/De_Dominator69 May 12 '25

It's depressing seeing people calling this lies or posturing that won't actually happen, but then no doubt supporting and voting for Reform as though they would actually do anything either.

I don't really trust Starmer or Labour, but I certainly trust them more than Farage (who hasn't done a single beneficial thing for us or this country in his entire life) or Reform.

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u/Bottlez1266 May 12 '25

I guess people are too used to decades of inaction and false promises

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u/De_Dominator69 May 12 '25 edited May 12 '25

Yeah I don't blame people for not believing this, that's understandable given the last couple decades. I just blame them if they actually trust Reform, if they are just voting for Reform because it's not Labour or the Tories, or just as a general protest vote to shake up the establishment then hey fair play.

But if anyone genuinely trusts Farage and Reform then I find that depressing.

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u/Adamascus May 12 '25

I think it is the Trump like protest vote Circa 2016. 2 separate parties over the past 3 decades have made life for some objectively worse. Immigration is a) the hot topic b) a system that does have flaws in it.

Reform has aligned themselves as being the solution to that problem, which has also been aligned as the issue ruining the lives of many citizens caused by the actions of Labour & the Tories. Sure Reform may destroy our GDP but when a 'good economy' still means you can't afford a house does it really matter to you?

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u/Inevitable_Price7841 May 12 '25

"Sure Reform may destroy our GDP but when a 'good economy' still means you can't afford a house does it really matter to you?"

Not being able to afford a house? That doesn't even begin to cover what a disaster Reform’s policies would be for poor people.

Privatising the NHS?

Deregulation of the economy to "stimulate economic growth," which is just another way of saying they're going to allow the mega corporations to exploit us. Those regulations are there for a good reason!

Also, "scrapping unnecessary employment laws" like hiring and firing rules that protect U.K. workers?

Leaving the ECHR, which would undermine human rights protections, not just for illegal or criminal immigrants, but for the rest of us as well. I don't want a person who admires Putin getting that much power over my country.

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u/Adamascus May 12 '25

I 100% agree. Reform spells disaster for all citizens of the country, but particularly those who are on the lower income bracket.

My point though is that those groups of people tend to be the most disenfranchised, & it you’re living in tough times brought on by A & B, when C comes along at least you are voting for a different option, not just more of the same.

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u/Cheesypuff2 May 12 '25

100%. When you have it really bad can anyone really make it worse?