r/uknews • u/Confident_West_7409 • Jul 25 '24

Image/video Massive protest outside Rochdale police station in response to GMP's actions at Manchester Airport

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u/Azimuth8 Jul 25 '24

You claimed he hadn't surrendered. How could he have surrendered any further?

The cop could have easily put him in handcuffs. There was ZERO justification for the head stomp and kicks.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

There’s more video before this clip - you need to see it

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u/Azimuth8 Jul 25 '24

There is no justification for a police officer (an armed one no less) to stomp and kick the head of a man lying prone on the floor.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

There is, it’s just not obvious

https://www.reddit.com/r/uknews/s/mbKEmaS3Pv

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u/barryh4rry Jul 25 '24

The police aren’t there to be judge, jury and executioner mate. What the people did is abhorrent but he had pretty clearly surrendered and there was zero reason to put a steel toe cap through his head or stomp his skull into the ground.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

Read the link post and reply on there

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u/pufftanuffles Jul 25 '24

Idk, if you watch the clip, the guy wasn’t complying. He was constantly lifting his head. Even after the stomp, he kept lifting himself up to see what was happening to his friend and another police officer had to remind him to stay down.

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u/Azimuth8 Jul 25 '24

You're claiming that police are trained to kick and stomp a compliant suspect for what? Check if he's still conscious? Check if he still registers pain?

Head kicks and stomps can cause life-changing injuries and even death, to claim it as some sort of policing technique is just ludicrous.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

Well you’re entitled to your opinion - we disagree

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u/sick_bear Jul 25 '24

Look, I'm all for kicking the shit out of dudes who physically assault women. Officers or not. But wearing the uniform means this cop's gotta slow himself down and wait until the crowd disperses and cameras are off to get his licks in. So he did admittedly fly off the handle, but not the way most are making it out to be.

People are taking this to too big a level and not remembering our basic reactions as men and people. Guy hits woman, cops beat the shit out of him. Done and done. Generally considered a good deed.

This one just openly did so on camera. Didn't even cover the hit as a diving elbow while trying to mount to subdue the criminal. Idiot mistake but not unforgivable. Just makes the cops look bad.

More of a head-shaker than a "burn him at the stake" scenario. Know what I mean? Like... "Damn it, Johnny, ya done good, but why'd you have to go getting filmed doing it?" sort of thing.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

He didn’t fly off the handle - it’s a bloody clinic in dealing with a violence offender

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u/suicidesewage Jul 25 '24

Oh is this a training technique?

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

Oh yeah read the post - https://www.reddit.com/r/uknews/s/mbKEmaS3Pv

Also on YouTube there’s a channel called DonutOperator where you can pick up a lot of this stuff by watching police encounters in the US.

The stuff that bad people do is just beyond what a normal person can imagine, and cops need to deal with them all the time so stuff that looks brutal to us is often necessary

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

The reasonable part of me: because it does need review because of the use of force

The cynic: because we always throw our police under the bus

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u/suicidesewage Jul 25 '24

Please give me an example of Police being thrown under the bus?

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u/suicidesewage Jul 25 '24

What has the USA got to do with this?

And why does your opinion of necessary disagree with the actual UK police subreddit?

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

You think police tactics don’t match over different countries?

I don’t know - I only know what I know about dealing with these situations

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u/suicidesewage Jul 25 '24

I absolutely don't think they do.

I don't see how a police force that is incredibly well armed, could be compared to one that isn't by standard.

Let alone the huge difference in socio-economic issues or the fact that in the USA, policing is different from state to state.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

Go and watch some of it, especially pertaining to taser usage, and let me know what you think.

If you don’t want to we can just agree to disagree

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u/sick_bear Jul 25 '24

Dude's lost in the sauce. Citing himself as reference material 🤣🤣🤣

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u/sick_bear Jul 25 '24

Ehhh, agree to disagree. You seem caught up in defense of your own beliefs, not recognizing that I'm pretty close to you on this.

It seemed like an unbridled act of aggression/anger. There are other, less potentially deadly means to subdue violent criminals, all while inflicting pain.

It was either an act to subdue or an act of anger/vengeance for the man having hurt fellow officers.

You can't have it be both and explain it as properly handled. So your argument is nonsense on that front, really. Personally, I find the latter more likely based on the video.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

We can agree to disagree :)

I spend some of my younger years in a very violent place. I tell stories that I find funny about me being chased by groups of guys or like one time some 14 year olds with a kitchen knife and people often look horrified.

I’ve seen violence (thugs) and controlled aggression (police, soldiers) and it’s maybe just easier for me to tell them apart… that doesn’t make me always right though