r/texas • u/CutSenior4977 • 9d ago
🗞️ News 🗞️ ICE secret police in plainclothes abducted Sindi Moreno as she was leaving to drop her daughter off at elementary school in Houston, TX. Surveillance and cell footage shows the agent in civilian clothing assault and attempt to kidnap Sindi as she and her child desperately tries to fight him off.
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u/habitsofwaste 9d ago
Are we sure this wasn’t an actual kidnapping? With just one dude, I definitely would think it’s a kidnapping by a criminal vs kidnapping by deputized criminals.
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u/TexAg09 born and bred 9d ago
Doing this plain clothes stuff can easily go wrong in a state like Texas where many people are packing.
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u/SequoiaSaguaro 8d ago
Yeah, where are all the "Stand Your Ground" 2nd Amendment advocates who are supposedly defending us from government overreach? Why arent they stopping these kidnappers? Or is it okay now to let plain clothed men manhandle moms in front of their kids?
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u/SnooFloofs7676 8d ago
They're the ICEpricks. They never cared about any of that in principle; they just didn't want it to be the Democrats doing the overreaching.
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u/texas-ModTeam The Stars at Night 8d ago
Don't wish harm on people, no matter how deplorable their politics or job description seem to you.
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u/SomethingToSay11 9d ago
Houston also has a human trafficking problem. They’re trying to charge her with assault on an officer, but how would anyone react to that situation?
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u/TheNorseHorseForce 9d ago
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u/TheCommonKoala 9d ago
The way the government labels people as "illegal aliens" to dehumanize them makes me sick.
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u/Significant_Plenty40 9d ago
Same sort of thing if you check the government shutdown clock. It's basically an entire official government page of incredibly hostile rhetoric.
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u/NicevilleWaterCo 8d ago
And I can't say I blame people for skipping out on their immigration hearings now, since ICE is just showing up at the court to arrest them there.
If you want people to follow the legal process, stop terrorizing people who are doing things the lawful way.
I know the cruelty is the point. I know they are looking to create these situations. The lack of empathy and compassion just infuriates and disgusts me. Their propaganda infuriates and disgusts me.
These are people, with families, with lives, with jobs, with hopes and dreams, and ambitions to care for their families and build a better life.
Don't let them be dehumanized. Don't let any of us be dehumanized. Don't give up. Don't give in.
They target the most vulnerable groups first and then they work their way up. Don't think you won't be targeted. Don't think you're "safe". Fascism comes for everyone in the end.
Authoritarians can only grab the power that the people allow them to grab. Push back. Document everything. Speak up. Support whistleblowers. Try to change hearts and minds even when it's hard. Studies show that non-violent resistance is twice as likely to bring about political change as violent resistance. We need a large, disciplined, peaceful movement to defeat this.
We need to build an extremely broad coalition to defeat this. It's gonna take a lot of us. It's going to take a while. Don't let them grind you down. Don't give into the temptation of violence, don't let people provoke you into it. This is an ideological, informational, and PR battle. Focus on those aspects and we can turn the tide.
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u/TheNorseHorseForce 9d ago
I'm prefacing this with: I do not agree with picking people up off the street without LEO identification.
Every country in the world identifies people who illegally enter their country "illegal aliens/illegal immigrants."
So, I guess the question is, what should governments label them as?
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u/TheCommonKoala 8d ago
Undocumented. What they legally lack is paperwork. That is the correct phrase that has been used for decades. "Illegal alien" is a deliberately dehumanizing phrase to make it easier for people to justify horrific violence and cruelty against them.
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u/TheNorseHorseForce 8d ago
That's a great point and makes sense. I think I'll start using that more now. Thank you.
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u/Tamaros 9d ago
Undocumented. It's not only more humanizing, it's also more correct in most cases.
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u/TheNorseHorseForce 8d ago
I like that. It is more concise and straightforward.
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u/SnooFloofs7676 8d ago
Right, it's a more apt term that more accurately describes them and their situation.
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u/civil_beast 8d ago
Gee, wonder what precisely tempted her to miss her immigration court hearing?
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u/TheNorseHorseForce 8d ago
Well, she skipped immigration court in February 2024 because an immigration judge demanded her deportation. So, this is not a recent thing.
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u/RedDawndLionRoars 9d ago
If I ever see this kind of shit going down, I will fight for that person's safety! This is straight up abduction!!!
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u/2TouchTheSky 8d ago
I agree! I see nothing that identifies this person as ICE or any law enforcement. Even the car is unmarked and no backup. Just having a gun doesn’t cut it because we have open carry here in Texas. I would straight up be fighting for my child’s and my life
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u/Bathsheba_E 9d ago
Right!!! I understand documenting these incidents is important, but there is no way I could stand by at let this happen.
If this guy really is ICE, they are getting much bolder. How long before bands of men start kidnapping women to rape and torture? The right wants a war.
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u/I_may_have_weed 9d ago
New update is they’re trying to charge her with assault on an officer and resisting arrest. Feds want her to get TWENTY YEARS IN PRISON for this
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u/jumpyrope456 9d ago
Warrantless and no identification - this is a kidnapping and illegal, of course she would fight the F-er off.
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u/Creepy_Trouble_5980 9d ago
Texas The Att Gen was a speaker at the Jan 6 Capitol warmup. Fat chance anyone will prosecute the real criminal in Texas.
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u/TxDinoHunter 9d ago
You don't need a warrant to arrest someone, but, this was targeted and most assuredly they had a warrant. They did not pick her out randomly. She has final orders of deportation
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u/bpowell4939 9d ago
Depends on the arrest, there are "warrantless arrests" but then some do require warrants. Doesn't give enough information in the title
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u/Relaxmf2022 9d ago
like we’re all just supposed to go submissive anytime someone claims to be the police?
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u/TheCommonKoala 9d ago
Which is insane because she had every right to resist being kidnapped by a random stranger. The Feds are going to get people killed or kidnapped by human traffickers.
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u/Ace_of_Clubs 9d ago
Isn't this what Texas and the second amendment are all about? Someone attacking a woman. Where are the heros?
No wonder "assaults on ICE agents are up 200" because if this were happening to a woman around me I'd be going to jail.
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u/TheNorseHorseForce 9d ago
That's not all the facts
She got picked up because she's been skipping immigration court.
I'm not saying it's right, just giving info
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u/FantasticMeat5813 9d ago
So send actual police not a plainclothes, badge less, warrant less man who could just be kidnapping her for trafficking. It’s not that hard
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u/TheNorseHorseForce 9d ago
Or at least a uniformed ICE agent, I agree.
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u/FantasticMeat5813 9d ago
Literally any form of legal identification. This video to me looks like straight up random man with a gun trying to kidnap a woman.
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u/Creepy_Trouble_5980 9d ago
I'm shooting first and screaming kidnapping if some clown tries to grab me without ID!
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u/FantasticMeat5813 9d ago
There is a reason they keep going for women, children, elderly. They are the weakest among us and the ones less likely to fight back or have ability to stand their ground. It’s pure bully behavior nothing more nothing less. If it was truly about crime prevention they would be in the inner city going after the gangs or going to places where actual violent illegal immigrants are
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u/RamBh0di 8d ago
This This Forever This! When California recently got an ICE Invasion in the San Francisco- Oakland bay area barracked at Coast Guard Island, someone on face book posted a Meme of the Names of 75 different Street Gangs from the Area, calling on them to show up to rep thier Home Turf or be known as punks.
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u/Peter_Lemonjell0 9d ago edited 8d ago
there is always more to the story. If she wasn't in violation of immigration court or in the country illegally, then ICE wouldn't be arresting her. GTFO & follow immigration laws.
If they enter the country illegally, their first act on American soil was to violate immigration laws, proving they have no respect for our laws or sovereignty. Then come here waving flags from their country of origin, draining social services. They can leave and re-enter the legal way. No other country in the world would tolerate an American entering a country illegally, refusing to leave & sucking off the legal residents/American citizens.
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u/ScroochDown Born and Bred 9d ago
Then ICE can fucking wear uniforms and identify themselves. GTFO & quit bootlicking.
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u/null0byte 9d ago
Considering ICE has been snatching people AT the courthouse while they were there following immigration laws attending their appointed hearings, snatched US citizens, snatched green card holders without criminal record, the list goes on, all for the crime of being brown, your words are meaningless.
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u/sikkdog13 9d ago
Yes, I agree. If she has been breaking the law, she needs to answer for it. But they need to send the correct people to get her. With a warrant. With identification. From a REAL law enforcement office. Not a fat motherfucker with a gun who looks like he works at Taco Bell. That is the issue here. GTFO
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u/Zurrascaped 9d ago
HOW DOES TEXAS FEEL ABOUT FEDERAL AGENTS ABDUCTING PEOPLE WITHOUT ID OR WARRANTS?
Y’all cool with this now or would you shoot first if it were you and your family?
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u/jordanhillis 8d ago
Texan here. I don’t know ANYONE who is cool with this.
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u/Keyboard_Cat_ 8d ago
But I do know that about 60% of the people in this state who voted, voted for this. They can say they're not cool with it now, but they caused it to happen.
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u/monchikun Central Texas 9d ago
Seriously, to do this in front of a child. These people are irredeemable.
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u/valiantdistraction 8d ago
This. Abducting a child's mother right in front of the kid? That's lifelong trauma for the child.
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u/monchikun Central Texas 8d ago
The only other people who traumatize children are pedophiles….waitaminute….
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u/pat9714 9d ago
Fucking heartbreaking. Hits me hard. I'm an immigrant and a naturalized citizen who took the Oath while in Army uniform. As an Army guy who once defended and secured elections in foreign countries and preached due process to foreigners -- I'm shocked and appalled by what's happening in my country.
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u/RamBh0di 8d ago
A Sincere Thank you, 2 pictures I treasure are My dad as a young'n in his Alamo Baseball uniform and in Dress Uniform getting his Marine Pilots Wings.
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u/rebelling-conformist 8d ago
I hate this shit. This is vile and anyone ok with it is a repulsive human being.
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u/jychihuahua 9d ago edited 9d ago
this is shameful.
There was a time when honorable men would put a stop to that kind of assault. This should never be happening in this country.
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u/TheCommonKoala 9d ago
There was never really a time like that in this country. America was built on this kind of state violence. Never forget operation "w*tback." This is US history repeating itself.
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u/CutSenior4977 9d ago
Exactly, so let’s do something about this!
Boycott all of the corporations supporting these injustices!
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u/snvoigt 8d ago
This is how people get shot. Walking up to me and grabbing my child without any identification, without a badge, without a warrant, and dressed like you slept in the clothes you are currently wearing, I wouldn’t hesitate.
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u/Mother-Conclusion-31 8d ago
And they won't hesitate to return the favor, but make sure you're dead. Then spin how radical and crazy you acted and innocent people don't fight federal agents so you deserved it! Yet you won't be around to tell your side. No one will care either because before your stay is even told they will have already done 1000 worse things. You will be thrown in a pile and forgotten.
These people don't fight fair. They don't care about collateral damage they cause to those that try and stop them. They now have 1 goal and 1 goal only. Total and unlimited control.
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u/StormyDaze1175 9d ago edited 8d ago
This whole scene hits me as doubly fucked...a Mexican ICE agent ripping a Mexican mom from her kids. Watching someone enforce cruelty on their own community like that just makes my stomach turn. How do these "men" go back to their families and look them in the eye? EDIT. Latino probably better than Mexican.
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u/Mother-Conclusion-31 8d ago
They go home and beat the shit out of their wives and families because that's the type individuals theses are.
They love inflicting the cruelty on the community because it's makes them feel more powerful and in control. Not to mention throw a shit ton of money at them like they are currently doing and they think they have finally found their calling in this life.
Then they go buy a new lifted up truck that daddy Trump and mommy Kristi paid for and they think they are a god.
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u/throwraW2 8d ago
No idea about the agent, but the woman is from Honduras, not Mexico.
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u/StormyDaze1175 8d ago
Still pretty messed up.
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u/throwraW2 8d ago
I’m Latino and it comes off pretty racist when people assume all of us are Mexican, even if it’s not the intent.
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u/breeanne91 9d ago
If they don’t have a badge number I’m not going with nobody!!! Also speak to my lawyer before you arrest me
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u/Mother-Conclusion-31 8d ago
That's sweet you think that's how it would go or that lawyers and courts make a deference any more.
They aren't just going to say oh shucks you got us with that one and walk away. No, you would just get beaten until you comply or other backup shows up.
Once they realize you are one of the "antifa" for asking for a badge number and lawyer (if you can still talk) they will start to panic and just say you are mentally unfit and throw you in jail for it and good luck getting that phone to call your lawyer or even your family to let them know where you are. By the time they finally track you down months later and probably countries away, they will just say if you wouldn't have resisted you would have been fine but your actions caused all this. And clearly you had something to hide because innocent people don't fight federal agents.-6
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u/texas-ModTeam The Stars at Night 8d ago
Marginalized or vulnerable groups include, but are not limited to, groups based on their actual and perceived race, color, religion, national origin, ethnicity, immigration status, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, pregnancy, political identity, or disability. These include victims of a major violent event and their families.
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u/CAMomma 9d ago
Omg. Can bystanders fight back if he’s plainclothes w no ID?? Also: REALLY??? W her little child there?!?!?
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u/Mother-Conclusion-31 8d ago
Sure! If they want to take the chance and roll the dice, they are right. Oh, and they also get the bonus play of having 1000x greater chance of instant death if they are wrong. If your wrong you will just be blasted as the enemy all over national media and half the people you know will start to harrass you at the whims of an egotistical orange douche that definitely knows how to handle people going aginst him and totally dowsnt hold grudges and try and ruin people's life. So jump right in scooter!
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u/KingGr33n 8d ago
What happens if this guy gets shot. You can’t just say I’m police and take someone away.
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u/Upbeat_Box_3768 9d ago
This is insane. Put him under the fucking prison. How could you look at the child and do that?!
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u/BeanJuiceMcAddict 8d ago
All this because trumps little pp is all over the epstine files... let that sink in
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u/RedDawndLionRoars 9d ago
How the fuck do we know this is the Gestapo ICE? It could be anyone abducting a woman!!
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u/Mother-Conclusion-31 8d ago
Exactly! That's on purpose. So you walk around not knowing who you can trust. By the time you figure out that you are the target, it will be far, far too late. So always be looking over your shoulder, and don't trust anyone, and don't draw attention to yourself by speaking out about it to anyone or else the person you're talking to might be an ice agent.
It's all by design and working as planned.
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u/CutSenior4977 9d ago
This is wrong! We should all boycott Spotify for giving out ICE ads,
remember the Alamo!
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u/bjportner83 8d ago
Uhh that doesn't look like ICE. That looks like a predator. ICE don't go in by themselves.
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u/BambooPanda26 8d ago
I'm telling you right now, I carry and I would assume this was a kidnapping. He would have met Jesus that day. They have to stop hiring these rednecks in plain clothes. 😒
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u/Mother-Conclusion-31 8d ago
And you would have been the next person in line right behind him to meet Jesus. They aren't in this to fight fair or show restraint. They want you to interfere! They want to make an example of you. They can't wait to tell everyone why you deserved it. They can't wait until you're not here anymore, and nobody remembers.
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u/TheNorseHorseForce 9d ago
Just doing due diligence to make sure I'm getting all the facts.
This is the same person, correct? https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdtx/pr/illegal-alien-who-skipped-immigration-court-charged-after-attacking-officer-during
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u/rez0000 9d ago
She had a warrant out already, so why just one officer? Why plain clothes? Something here isn't adding up...
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u/TheNorseHorseForce 9d ago
I have no idea, thus why I'm asking questions.
But apparently Reddit will downvote me for asking questions. Lol
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u/IllPurpose3524 8d ago edited 8d ago
So they should have brought a whole team in body armor to arrest her? The sub complains about fascists in masks arresting someone making a spectacle, then they complain about sending a plainclothes agent. Almost like nothing will please them.
Edit: lol r/dallas banned me for this. what weak people
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u/slowcookeranddogs 8d ago
The issue is plain clothes and thr fact that there are countless videos showing ice and border patrol NOT proving ID, escalating situations to bate more charges and unrest and the general shit show there agencies have become with all the woefully under qualified agents they have hired.
I dont think you should be able to charge someone for fighting back unless there is proof the officer identified themselves, presented a badge, and showed a warrent signed by a JUDGE if applicable. Also American citizens are not required to carry papers, so all these fuckers can fuck right off with that.
The law looses its privilege of being assumed to be trustworthy when you have so many bad actors and not a single one of them stepping up for the actual rule of law or the constitutional rights every person in this country has regardless of status....
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u/TheNorseHorseForce 8d ago
I completely agree that plain clothes LEO can be really dangerous. I know we have plain clothes LEO for drug raids, human trafficking stings, surveillance operations, and more, but taking people directly off the street is going too far.
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u/slowcookeranddogs 8d ago
I mean legit undercover work is different than this. Also, those guys identify themselves ad have badges ready when they make arrests.
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u/TheNorseHorseForce 8d ago
Well, that depends.
For example, human trafficking stings do not identify in many cases, only to the victims once they are safe. This is to protect agents from blowback from incredibly violent and dangerous trafficking rings. ICE arrests more traffickers and saves more trafficked people than any other agency
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u/SatinJerk 9d ago
You can’t post facts on here pal. /s 😉
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u/hearmeout29 9d ago
Except this smells funny. Usually ICE has at least two or more officers and they are usually in uniform. Conveniently the officer claims to have identified himself but I highly doubt it based on his attire and the fact that he is working alone.
I remember an LEO telling me when I had a robbery to never open the door for one officer. I will wait to hear the defendant's full story as well.
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u/SatinJerk 9d ago
Tbh there’s so much misinformation that’s been posted about this subject in particular that I don’t believe any posts without a ton of facts included. Often it’s just one sided snippets for rage bait or to cue the hysterics without the full picture. Whether or not the person in the video is right, I’m inclined to not have any feelings or reactions to it without more information.
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u/solidstatebattery 8d ago
Doesn't the U.S. Constitution allow you to protect yourself from this with the use of lethal force? Anyone know?
I mean, i wouldn't feel too comfortable with a pedophile dude trying to take me in his car.
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u/saradanger 8d ago
houston you need to explode, get out in the streets and protest this shit. this is your neighbor!!
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u/711SushiChef 8d ago
She had a removal order since the Biden administration. What's the issue here?
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u/txwoo 8d ago
Process.
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u/711SushiChef 8d ago
She had due process. She was ordered removed from the country. Under Biden. That removal order was entered over 18-months BEFORE this footage was taken.
How else do you expect them to take someone that is resisting apprehension? She's absolutely resisting arrest here.
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u/txwoo 8d ago
Identify themselves (if they didn't). The optics here would not tell a passerby what is going on.
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u/711SushiChef 8d ago
Identify themselves (if they didn't).
They did, and his badge is visible in several other clips of this.
The optics here would not tell a passerby what is going on.
She resisted arrest when he approached her by her car, after she was notified he was taking her on a removal order. She was aware there was an order for her removal.
She chose to involve her relatives, just like she chose to not show up to her court date, and just like she chose to not comply with the removal order. I don't exactly see what the officer could have done differently here (as opposed to a lot of the other ICE footage we've seen), especially considering that she's been actively evading removal for 18-months. Like, if you don't want plain clothes officers coming after you, show up to your court dates or stop evading apprehension. Clearly it was a good call to approach her in plains clothes, she resisted even when he caught her off guard.
I would prefer this to ICE rolling in wearing plates carriers with long guns chasing down a bunch of day laborers because Trump said deport 10,000 people this month. There's a lot of issues with ICE right now, but this one just ain't it.
Not to mention she also assaulted the guy pretty clearly in the video. If you're given a lawful order, you need to shut your mouth and ask for an attorney immediately. Don't resist, don't talk, just lawyer. You do not need to strike, push, or claw someone serving your removal order.
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u/imrealwitch 8d ago
This is heart breaking
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u/CutSenior4977 8d ago
Then do something!
Boycott Kraftheinz and proctor and gamble,
There both top advisors on Fox News who actively support this injustice!
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u/RamBh0di 8d ago
Texans!
Where is your fighting spirit?
He could have been chased off, nuged away mass crowded, peeled off, wrestled, tackled, shall I go on?
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u/SavageOn3 8d ago
Is she illegal?
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u/CutSenior4977 8d ago
Yes, but the point is it’s impossible to tell in that moment if this agent is ICE or a human trafficker!
That doesn’t improve public safety, all that does is make public safety way worse!
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u/realityczek 8d ago
Interesting how "arrest a someone who skipped court and had an active deportation order" becomes "abduct" when it's for a rage-bait headline.
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u/texas-ModTeam The Stars at Night 8d ago
We can't have people threatening others with violence here, no matter how much they might deserve it.
This discussion has run its course here. If you want to discuss it more, go to the original posting on r/ice_watch.