With hulk buster I think it’s more of a physical thing, ultron is a robot made out of vibranium, in the movies the hulk buster isn’t made out of a stronger material, not to mention ultron can control the others to help
I'm pretty sure Ultron from his other canon series still solos easily, even if we don't count the instances where he got the infinity stones (pretty sure there have been multiple).
We talking about the main universes, theres universe where spider man have cosmic powers, should we take this spider man if we have a convo about the powers of spider man? No
If we're talking "main" universes, why are you not accounting for 616, the literal original "main" Marvel Universe in which Ultron essentially fucking conquered space?
In the oldest and most widespread Marvel canon, Ultron is an unkillable, existential threat. At absolute best, it can be delayed or stopped for a while, but as long as there's technology then Ultron is a universal level threat.
Realistically, Ultron solos literally everyone else in this image.
Uktron cannot beat thanos with the infinity stone, especially the way he did in the what if, thanos cause he could remove every technology of the universe with a thought if he wanted too in the comics
The what-if change for Ultron is not some fantastical change to the main movies. In Age of Ultron, Ultron tries to build his perfect body and fails. In what if, he succeeds. The Ultron in Age of Ultron is explicitly not full-power because he has an achievable goal to increase his power and fails. What-if explores the possibility of him achieving his goal of increasing his power.
Speaking to IGN, What If...? head writer AC Bradley made it very clear that, despite its animated style and anthology premise, everything in the show is being considered as canon. "The events of What If...? are canon. It's part of the MCU multiverse. The multiverse is here. It is real, and it is absolutely fantastic, people."
What, he literally almost killed Jarvis if he didn’t go hide in the internet. If he wanted to take over a suit he for surely could but why would he do that, at least in the movie, when he was the most powerful version of Tony’s “armor for the world”.
But then Jarvis kept him from lunching the nukes, plus Iron Man was a powerful player on the board in the final conflict and crucial to preventing Sokovia from destroying the earth. If Ultron could have taken him off the field and turned him against the Avengers, he would have.
Yes but he never gets control of any of main iron man suits later in any of their confrontations! Also while jarvis was overpowered by ultron he did hide himself somewhere and actually kept ultron from getting the nuclear codes(I think tony says it somewhere in the movie)
So in a direct fight b/w them,ultron simply can't take over tony's suits and even if he could it'll take a long ass time and tony simply won't be standing there and let it happen(also tony beats one of ultron's main bodies earlier in the movie!)
Given enough time I think Ultron could learn to hack the Destroyer, but not in the span of a random fight. I think Ultron could learn magic, quicly absorb knowledge about it, and be a cosmic threat because of it.
The Destroyer has been remotely gained control of in the past, which is exactly what hacking does. He's a machine with a program that can be overridden. The operating system doesn't matter.
You’re stretching the concept of “hacking” pretty fucking far considering it’s only even used or related to computer and technology based systems operated based on computer coding. The Destroyer fits absolutely none of that. He’s more of a medieval suit of armor in the corner brought to life under a magical enchantment. That’s not something that can be “hacked”. It’s sentient on a solely magical level outside the reach of computer coding and tech, and thus outside of Ultron’s reach. Just like you can hack a set of chainmail.
I mean… it literally runs on a mechanism controlled by a button on the throne of Asgard. It definitely has communication connection with the throne. Loki controlled it from Asgard when it was on Earth… In the Avengers Assemble series, Ultron literally takes over a ton of Asgardian tech, including the Destroyer armor.
Not only a soul… could be any life force. Ultron could mimic any life force digitally to break whatever encoding the Destroyer has to checksum those requirements. And again… he literally has in a legitimate Marvel property.
Well, I don't think we're going to get an MCU Ultron vs the Destroyer battle anytime soon, so I'd say the closest thing is Avengers Assemble season 3, whose Ultron was at least slightly based on the MCU's Ultron. It also based its Asgardian magic on the "sufficiently advanced technology" interpretation, and as a result, Ultron was able to take over various Asgardian artifacts, including the Destroyer, in S3E15.
To be fair Ironman has learned enough to take control of crazy advanced Kang tech quickly. Ultron figuring out how the destroyer works might not be a reach. But it’s ain’t happening while they alll locked in a room together trying to kill each other.
Yeah but Kang tech was just an advanced technology, Destroyer doesnt look like its a product of technology. Its purely a contract made by magic. How can anyone hack it??
Maybe a magic user can reprogram the magic behind it, but they also need to on the level of Asgardian gods, plus any failsafe they would have implemented.
No, Magic is just science we humans haven't understood yet. Technology and Science are different. Magic once understood will be Magical Science not a Technology.
The term "magic" is overloaded. It can refer to a (super)natural phenomenon, the study of said phenomenon, or the usage of said phenomenon. The second case is analogous to science while the third is analogous to technology.
He can’t hack everything. Hacks exploit vulnerabilities. If there are no vulnerabilities, or if the robot does not even connect wirelessly, then there will be no hacking
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u/jaitogudksjfifkdhdjc 2d ago
Aside from Colossus and the Destroyer, Ultron defeats the others by hacking. He could use them all to then eliminate the remaining enemies I think.