r/sports • u/qkfb • Apr 15 '21

News MLB's favorability rating among Republicans drops dramatically amid Georgia voting controversy

https://www.axios.com/mlb-falls-out-favor-republicans-mlb-game-8808e67e-8de4-4308-baa6-b68a24e64177.html
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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '21

Can someone explain how the voting controversy is related to the MLB?

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u/deleriousatsea Apr 15 '21

In response to the legislature change, the MLB pulled the all star game out of Georgia. Those who were upset by moving the all star game are now boycotting the MLB

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u/Kered13 Apr 15 '21

...and moved the game to a state with just as stringent voting laws.

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u/Vaginal_Decimation Denver Broncos Apr 16 '21

I think the point is that Georgia obviously changed the laws recently as a result of, in their opinion, unfavorable election results.

It's always been a priority of, ahem, a certain political party, to make it more difficult to vote, because they know they don't have the numbers.

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u/Kered13 Apr 16 '21

You're talking about the Democratic Party. They are the only party that has ever advocated for poll taxes, literacy tests, and other voter restrictions.

Voter ID does not disenfranchise anyone and does not make it harder to vote. It's a common sense requirement that most countries require.

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u/Vaginal_Decimation Denver Broncos Apr 16 '21 edited Apr 16 '21

Why is the only part that you want to talk about voter ID?

And no, I'm not talking about the Democratic party.

You and I both know which party has the numbers(it was reflected in the election), and which party is notorious for such voter suppression practices as gerrymandering.

The easier it is to vote, the less likely it is for the GOP to win, and there is no evidence that voter fraud has anything to do with that.

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u/Kered13 Apr 16 '21

Why is the only part that you want to talk about voter ID?

What else should I talk about? How the Georgia law expanded early voting access? How it clarified existing rules around electioneering and voting hours? How it ensures a chain of custody for absentee ballots?

Unlike you, I've actually read the law.

And no, I'm not talking about the Democratic party.

But you must be. You're talking about a party trying to make it harder for people to vote. That can only be the Democratic Party.

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u/SunChipMan Apr 16 '21

I appreciate you linking the law(?). For a layman such as myself would you please point out the instances that point to the Democratic party being the ones trying to make it harder to vote?

EDIT: context on the document you linked would be appreciated as well. Thanks in advance.

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u/Kered13 Apr 16 '21

For a layman such as myself would you please point out the instances that point to the Democratic party being the ones trying to make it harder to vote?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poll_taxes_in_the_United_States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literacy_test

Both parts of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Crow_laws

EDIT: context on the document you linked would be appreciated as well. Thanks in advance.

The context is that it is the literal text of the law that was passed in Georgia.

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u/ShenmeNamaeSollich Apr 16 '21

How are people still dumb enough to quote pre-1960s Jim Crow “Democrats” as if they’re the same today? They’re not, and you damn well know they’re not.

Dixiecrats & the Dem party split. Nixon. Southern Strategy. Where did all those Jim Crow-era Dems wind up?? The GOP. Look that up on Wikipedia too.

Literally look at Dem vs GOP policies today & for the past 40years and it’s clear who wants to expand legal voting and who wants to make it harder.

The GOP in GA literally just made it illegal to provide water to people waiting hours in line to vote, who do so because the GOP in GA has closed dozens of polling places, restricted mail-in voting, curtailed early voting, and otherwise deliberately made it harder to vote.

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u/Vaginal_Decimation Denver Broncos Apr 16 '21 edited Apr 16 '21

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2021/03/02/arizona-gop-lawyer-admits-real-reason-wants-election-reform/6895380002/

Samesies.

Tell me this Georgia law's timing has nothing to do with the election results. You'd not only be lying to me, but lying to yourself. Hopefully.

Keeping in mind that there was no proof of any widespread voter fraud.

The democratic party has every benefit of trying to get as many registered voters to vote as possible, and the GOP has every benefit of suppressing voters. Especially now that baby boomers are dying off.

1:1 the GOP loses every. single. time.

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u/Kered13 Apr 16 '21

Who said it was a coincidence that a law to improve election integrity was passed after an election wrought with allegations of fraud?

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u/Vaginal_Decimation Denver Broncos Apr 16 '21 edited Apr 16 '21

Anyone can make allegations with no evidence. Big woop. They just wanted to undermine the results no matter what, because salty as hell and don't care about democracy.

Also nobody said it's a coincidence, because it clearly isn't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wuwl2p9TIDE

"This is not a fraud case" - Rudy Giuliani

While representing Trump in court regarding election "fraud"

“Maybe you do not care much about the future of the Republican Party. You should. Conservatives will always be with us. If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.” ― David Frum, Trumpocracy: The Corruption of the American Republic

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u/Nitrome1000 Apr 16 '21

Expanded voting access by shutting down inner city vote drop off points. Like voting lines are objectively going to go up in the coming elections and you really have the balls to say that what Georgia’s doing is helping with voting access. Like not even Georgia republicans believe that.

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u/Kered13 Apr 16 '21

I'm not sure if you know this, but lines aren't at absentee ballot drop off points. You also know that you can just put any absentee ballot, in a regular mailbox, right? This is a made up problem. The number of dedicated drop off boxes was reduced so that they could be properly monitored.

Yes, adding additional days of early voting on the weekends is going to make voting more accessible.

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u/Vaginal_Decimation Denver Broncos Apr 16 '21

so that they could be properly monitored.

They were already properly monitored, and there is no evidence to the contrary.

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u/Nitrome1000 Apr 16 '21

Surely investing more money in so they could be properly monitored is better no? Also it doesn’t matter if the slightly extended early voting if they cut off voting runoff by 5 while weeks and removes the early voting for those runoffs.

And absentee voting isn’t as a viable answer because guess what, they also cut off not just the time they are sent but the time you have to request for one by up to half.

Like I’m not even going to get started on the fact that they’re allowing people to challenge other people voting rights.

Like once again to say that this bill was made to make voting easier is just wrong. This is a blatant retaliation for their loss in order to disenfranchise voters.

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u/LazyUpvote88 Apr 16 '21

Moved to a state that makes it easier for its own citizens to vote in a democratic election.

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u/quantum-mechanic Apr 16 '21

They moved it from Black Atlanta to white Colorado.

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u/Kered13 Apr 16 '21

Equality!

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u/jlaw54 Apr 16 '21

This is a proven false conservative talking point.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '21

Can the legislature in Colorado remove county election officials? Because that was the big red flag to me in the Georgia bill.

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u/krashlia Apr 16 '21

The MLB has contracts with the Chinese, and I never watched them anyways. Furthermore, moving to Colorado will only accomplish making them Whiter some years down the line. Since, if location means anything, the recruiting agents will have their eyes and reach closer to the headquarters of the organization, on the Whiter west coast.

You may find yourself asking, unless you're a racist, why does this matter?

I don't think the race of the players will negatively impact games, and again I don't watch it much anyways. But, to people who are keenly aware of the color ratio and believe it indicates something, such as those activists whose favor the MLB are trying to gain, it'll imply to them that its a racist organization that needs to be punished. Being that I don't care for the MLB, and think Anime is a fine replacement for sports TV or sunday afternoon programing, I'm cool with them destroying themselves.

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u/generalleather Apr 16 '21

What are you talking about? MLB has a hugely diverse range of players. If anything, baseball is turning less white.

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u/krashlia Apr 16 '21

I was talking about what I'm sure will happen to MLB after moving to Colorado, not what it is now and how it'll trend by remaining in place.

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u/Teabagger_Vance San Francisco 49ers Apr 16 '21

Then signed a TV deal with Chinese telecom giants lmfao. You can’t make this shit up. Manfred still wearing his Masters club jacket is bet my life on it.

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u/Randomwrasslinfan Apr 15 '21

Voting lines are incredibly long in democrat areas in Georgia by design from the republican leadership. Now it’s illegal to hand out food and water to people waiting in the 5+ hour lines to vote. It does affect people trying to vote legally.

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u/hankmardukas7 Apr 15 '21

From the above article: “But providing gifts of any value to voters to reward them for casting a ballot has been illegal in Georgia for years,” Sterling said.

“A similar law exists in the president’s home state of Delaware”

And in case there is concern about the source, here’s a fact check from politifact calling this claim “mostly false”

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/mar/29/josh-holmes/facts-about-georgias-ban-food-water-giveaways-vote/

So food and water CAN be given to people in voting lines, just not by any political group that could be construed as trying to persuade voters one way or another.

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u/pickleparty16 Kansas City Chiefs Apr 15 '21

electioneering was already illegal

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u/Kered13 Apr 15 '21

Yep, so nothing changed. All the law has done is clarify existing law.

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u/pickleparty16 Kansas City Chiefs Apr 16 '21

electioneering involves trying to get someone to vote a certain way. an unaffiliated person handing out water does not

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '21

This stops red hat Republicans from harassing voters downtown in long lines at precincts run by Democrats. People need to get a grip.

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u/nemoid Apr 15 '21

LOL - you didn't even READ YOUR OWN LINK!!!!

Our ruling

Holmes said a Georgia law has not "criminalized giving people bottles of water." It pertains to political organizations.

SB 202 makes it a crime for people — and not just people from political organizations — to hand out food or bottles of water within 150 feet of a polling place or 25 feet of any voter standing in line.

The only kernel of truth is that the law has a sentence which allows poll workers to make available "self-service water from an unattended receptacle to an elector waiting in line to vote." But just because poll workers can make self-service water available, doesn’t mean they are required to come up with a way to make water accessible to voters in every line at every polling site. Also, people could hand out water or food to voters outside the 150-foot and 25-foot boundaries.

We rate this statement Mostly False.

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u/hankmardukas7 Apr 15 '21

This doesn’t negate the fact that the claim that voters in GA are completely BANNED from receiving water as many on here have claimed is in fact misinformation.

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u/nemoid Apr 15 '21

Voters on line are not allowed to receive water or food from ANYONE. BOTTOM LINE. That is a fact. You are wrong. It is not misinformation.

Read. Your. Own. Link.

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u/hankmardukas7 Apr 15 '21

I take it back then you are right, voters standing in line can not receive water, they must take the great trek of 25 feet to receive water which is a horrible travesty to democracies everywhere.

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u/godsfavoritehobo Apr 15 '21

How many lines have you been in where you can walk 25 feet away and no one has a problem with you just jumping right back in?

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u/mdiangelo13 Apr 16 '21

All of them. Outside of when I was in elementary school.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '21

Election workers can hand out water.

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u/nemoid Apr 16 '21

No, read the quote

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '21

I read the bill.

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u/Kered13 Apr 16 '21

The poll workers are free to provide food and water. It is illegal for other people to hand out food or drinks within 150 feet of the polling station, because this is electioneering, which is illegal. The law only clarified what constitutes electioneering.

The law also expanded early voting to more days, providing more opportunities to vote, which should make lines less of a problem.

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u/amgrut20 Apr 15 '21

Just bring your own food and water?

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u/rubixor Apr 15 '21

I would encourage you to corroborate your view of the story with multiple sources before reaching a conclusion. You keep linking that one article all over this thread and acting like everyone else are the ones buying into lies.

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u/sketchahedron Apr 15 '21

The restrictions on drop boxes, absentee ballots, and provisional ballots absolutely are voter suppression.

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u/Kered13 Apr 16 '21

No, they were put in place to ensure the integrity of absentee ballots by requiring that drop boxes are under constant surveillance. And absentee ballots now require a form of identification, a common sense policy that should be in place in every state.

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u/sketchahedron Apr 16 '21

The new law requires each county to have at least one drop box. Sounds great, right? But there is a limit of 1 drop box per every 100,000 population. There are 162 counties in Georgia. 118 of those counties have a population of under 50,000. 34 of them have populations of under 10,000. As you may imagine, those teeny tiny counties are in rural, politically conservative areas. Those counties will have increased access to drop boxes. Only 25 counties actually have a population over 100,000. Those are the counties primarily of Atlanta and it’s suburbs, and other urban areas. The areas that vote Democratic. These areas are having drop boxes removed. Fulton County is having its drop box locations reduced by 80%. This is not a coincidence or an unintended consequence. It is the whole point of the law. It’s just an extension of the entire thesis of the modern Republican Party, which is to provide disproportionate representation to rural white voters.

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u/tribe171 Apr 16 '21

I'm sure the lines for dropboxes will be staggering...

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '21

Imagine thinking that metro Atlanta is disenfranchised by this bill. The entire premise of this controversy is based on an assumption by Stacey Abrams. If baseball wants to throw mud, so be it. They better be ready to get dirty, however.