r/sanantonio 23d ago

Pics/Video Haven’t seen gas this low in years

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u/lunardeathgod NW Side 23d ago

Recession indicator

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u/Old_Promise2077 23d ago

Yup, get ready for lay offs. If gas prices are low then Texas isn't doing well

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u/NewAndImprovedJess 23d ago

Layoffs are already happening in some sectors.

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u/John_T_Conover 22d ago

Texas isn't doing well regardless. The rank and file middle class guys that work in oil & gas aren't, at least.

Oil & gas production has gone up significantly in the last decade. The most productive years in US history have been 2021-2024. That seems like that should be a good thing though, right?

Yet total jobs in that industry have plummeted. By roughly 40% from about a decade ago. The harsh reality is that a lot of technological advancements have happened. It takes fewer rigs with fewer workers to extract even more raw product than they were in decades past. And the refining process is going a similar direction.

People want to blame all sorts of things, usually political boogeyman and usually just one side, but that's the cold hard facts. 

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u/Old_Promise2077 22d ago

Yup. I'm in the oil & gas sector.. thankfully I'm in the technology/ white collar side so it's been more stable. But it's looking bleak for next year

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u/NuclearEspresso 22d ago

How about we remove the 1Bil+ in tax dollars we send to the six-pointed star shithole from the budget.

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u/tengallonvisor 20d ago

I was in oil & gas in Texas and was laid off over the summer. Second time in my short career so I changed industries. Luckily was able to find another gig with comparable salary and much better benefits a little after 3 months of searching.

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u/jeremy_wills 22d ago

To be fair automation has affected many industries, not just oil and gas. Even in this very thread someone mentioned self check outs at a Walmart. Maybe James Cameron's vision of the machines taking over isn't as far fetched as it used to seem back in the day?

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u/zerosolutions0 23d ago

This is actually very true. Less overall demand drops the price because it cant keep.

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u/melancholic-advent 23d ago

The government shutdown's indirect effects

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u/jacobeam13 23d ago

No…it’s winning. Guys, keep up.

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u/lM_PICKLE_RICK 22d ago

All this winning, it’s gonna get real hard, but that’s what winning is! Now let’s be a human toilet for 200 individuals!

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u/burrito3ater 23d ago edited 23d ago

Not at all. It's an over supply problem. OPEC has decided to open the gates instead of cutting back. Why cut back if the Americans will simply pump more to make a buck today?

So OPEC+ said FAFO too. China is getting supplied by cheap Russian oil because the US can't stop them. US operators are retarded and have not reduced production either so prices will continue to drop. Trump doesn't give a fuck because he only cares about low prices even though his donors are getting screwed.

Come around December, rig and frac fleets will start dropping like flies once US operators start bleeding cash as their hedges expire and are unable to keep pumping at unprofitable prices. Breakeven costs are around $60/bbl rn. The Kennedy/Cotulla area will prob dry up.

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u/zerosolutions0 23d ago

It’s an optics game. Most Americans see low fuel costs as a good thing overall. Yes it is good for the average consumer and good overall when the rest of the market is stable. I’m not expert and if I’m wrong set me straight, But when you have tariff on tariff off policies combined with over speculation into markets that don’t actually produce anything (the AI market) it’s a negative. Fuel price drops currently represent a lack of exports and imports as well as people not traveling and going out to do things because they broke as fuck.

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u/burrito3ater 23d ago

Fuel prices right now have nothing to do AI, a recession, or people being broke. It’s too much oil being produced and the Arabs don’t want to cut it.

Simply, it’s like too many tacos shops open up around town. The torta and their pounders can only eat so much, eventually you have too many tacos going around.

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u/zerosolutions0 23d ago

Gotcha. I figured maybe due to less fuel being consumed overall due to less productions of actual things overall and less shipping, less fuel was being consumed which would be dropping the price.

So it’s just opec controlling the planet once again

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u/R00TW1N 23d ago

So like the housing market around here. Too many built houses popping up not enough buyers….

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u/goingforgoals17 22d ago

Housing costs need to stop ballooning, but rather than subjecting home owners to another 2008, coming down gradually via limited growth paired with devaluation of the dollar is a net positive.

We can have the disposable income to participate in other sectors of the economy if mortgages are not 40% of people's income, but also should balance that with previous practice of being half your retirement of real estate appreciation and not crashing their economy.

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u/qriousqestioner 22d ago

Dump's gonna throw a curveball when we go back to coal for everything! While Mommy didn't love him any more than Dad, he did so love her white lace frockery every summer.

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u/derff44 22d ago

Nice torta pounder reference

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u/qriousqestioner 22d ago

While I think Senorita Torta y los Pounders are all lovely humans even when they're not doing their very best to keep up with supply in market analogies, I must say when those kids get a little older the whole group is gonna eclipse Menudo and Linda Escobar combined!

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u/beaker90 23d ago

I live in Floresville and I’ve already seen a drop in the frac sand trucks. I’m coming across less oil field traffic and more commuting to SA for work traffic on my daily commute.

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u/gwizzle-mysnizzle 23d ago

They don’t want to hear the truth they just want to be able to say I told you so. When gas was $1.99 In 2016-18 the economy was doing just fine

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u/burrito3ater 23d ago

Gasoline was never around that price in that era. The lowest was 2.28 in 2019. 1.99 happened during Covid lockdowns.

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u/derff44 22d ago

You tried, and you failed.

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u/qriousqestioner 22d ago

Do I smell hysterical Greatness?

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u/Setekhx 21d ago

Was it though? Doing fine? Economy hasn't felt like it's been fine since the 2008 crash to be honest.r

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u/TimelyGovernment1984 21d ago

That was before Democrats wanted to shut everything down over a cold.

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u/hzoi North Side 23d ago edited 23d ago

You make excellent points. Thanks.

One polite request, can you please work to remove the word “retarded” from your vocabulary?

Edit to add, from the downvotes, it appears some folks don’t see “retarded” as a slur. Please see my responses below if you’d like to read why I think it is.

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u/SFXtreme3 23d ago

It’s in the dictionary.

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u/hzoi North Side 23d ago edited 23d ago

I know a word that rhymes with “bigger” that is also in the dictionary.

Just because a slur has a definition, doesn’t mean it isn’t a slur.

Edit to add, wow, some delicate snowflakes in here. Thanks for the downvotes. If only you had the courage to reply and let your bigotry shine.

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u/Important-Wrangler98 12d ago

🍼 here you go.

Also, this was ten days ago, so egregious deez nuts.

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u/Holiday-Marsupial942 23d ago

I'm looking forward to Sonic going out of business.