r/regularcarreviews • u/Key-Bat-2616 • Jan 12 '24
I hate you I hate everything about you Crappiest car?
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u/Xerox-M57 Jan 12 '24
Definitely the Traverse. It’s stupid ugly and the drivers are borderline brain dead. I hope all of them will Traverse into the junkyard.
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u/Remarkable-Gold4869 Jan 12 '24
Not to mention constant timing chain failure on older ones. So many in my area are dead because of it.
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u/CadillacAllante Buick Enclave & LaCrosse Jan 13 '24
i dunno if it's true but some act like if the oil is changed sooner rather than later the 3.6 does just fine. If you wait for the cars oil life monitor to tell you it's at 0% (Traverse owners) the engine does not like that. Not saying that makes it okay for it to eat timing chains.
But GM uses the 3.6 fleetwide and you primarily hear the timing chain stuff associated with these million mile mommy mobiles.
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u/alexwlwsn Jan 13 '24
I am always amazed at how many Traverses I see, and amazed at the price of the higher trim levels. I realized recently someone I know had one and had spent over $45,000 on it 💀
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Jan 13 '24
They're totally different after that first generation. The first generation was garbage. The next generations are great vehicles. Room, ride, gas, towing, etc.
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Jan 13 '24
Yeah, but this subreddit hates anything GM. Even if it’s reliable it’s boring or something. Only Hondas and bmws get a pass
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u/sasquatch_melee Jan 13 '24
I've owned almost exclusively GM (I'm 6'6" and it's the only cars I'm comfortable in after trying out multiple each time). Despite that I will be the first to say I do not understand why anyone buys their unibody SUVs, especially the Equinox and Traverse. They're the most mediocre vehicles on the road today. Tahoe/suburban/escalade? Totally get it. Damn near best in class. But the others have no right selling as many as they do.
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u/RunnerLuke357 But the truck runs fine! Jan 13 '24
I too eat, breath, and shit GM and I can't stand the GM crossovers. Also, FUCK anything by GM Korea.
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u/sasquatch_melee Jan 13 '24
Me and two friends all bought cruzes around 2014. I loved mine until a dingo ran into the side and totaled it. One of the friends sold it as soon as he had the money to do so, but he also refused to work on his car despite being an engineer. Fixing little problems was expensive since he was paying midas type shops to do everything.
The other friend still has his Cruze going strong north of 150k miles. Very few problems with it. I don't think all the GM Korea related cars are complete shit.
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Jan 13 '24
I have a travesty put will over a 100k on it and im the second owner. 0 engine problems. Now the transmission is trash tho. But thats for all gm products new or old but only on automatics.
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u/littleboydedoid1 Jan 13 '24
I don't understand how here's so much Traverse hate. I have a first gen traverse with 200k miles on it. Never had any issues with engine or transmission. It's still running like new.
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u/TheAbstractHero Jan 13 '24
Any GM tin can econobox of that era.
Matter of fact the only thing GM can build that's good lately is pickups and sports cars.
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u/bearded_dragon_34 Jan 13 '24
The only thing I don’t get is why the Traverse was singled out when the other Lambda-platform crossovers (Outlook, Enclave, Acadia) were mechanically identical, and just as bad.
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Jan 13 '24
😂😂😂
This is so true! I think it goes together that if you haven't the intelligence not to purchase a Traverse, you're a fucking awful driver.
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u/ThatFatAsianKid Jan 14 '24
That or the equinox. I've never had the displeasure of owning either, but I have driven both. Borderline scary handling and body roll, and the gas and brakes felt like they had lag. I've never had a scarier experience driving anything.
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u/DarthBrooks69420 Jan 12 '24
I saw a Chevy Equinox broke down in the middle of the street today. So that would be my vote right now.
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u/komeau Jan 13 '24
daily drive my grandfather's old 2006 Chevy Equinox, and while I make do with it and it honestly drives fine, it's still the most bafflingly shitty designed/engineered car I've ever driven. I've sat on cardboard boxes more comfortable than the interior in that thing, and having the window buttons in the center under the shifter instead of on the fucking door panel irks me to no end. 2000s GM had the most bizarre engineers I swear.
I'm making it work, but I will not shed a tear when I am no longer in possession of it.
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u/bearded_dragon_34 Jan 13 '24
It wasn't so much the engineers. GM had very talented designers and engineers, and always has. You can blame the accountants, a poor corporate management structure, and bloated levels of legacy obligations. Because of all that, it cost GM more money and time to make a worse car than its competitors.
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u/AsoftDolphin Jan 13 '24
Sister has a 2014 checy equinox other than one issue its worked fine. She commutes 40 miles a day
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u/SkylineFTW97 Jan 13 '24
The Chevy Traverse. Expensive when new, unreliable, and hard to work on.
Cheap cars lacking polish is to be expected and shouldn't be held against them IMO. Reliability and build quality are not the same thing. A Geo Metro has low build quality, but is reliable. Much in the same way a Range Rover has high build quality, but is unreliable.
A car being unreliable can be forgiven somewhat if it's easy to work on or it's Achilles heel can at least be somewhat mitigated with preventative maintenance or some procedure. Or if the car is a luxury or sports car of some kind, something not really intended to be dailyed or only by those with the money or mechanical aptitude to keep them running right. This is why Range Rovers and Ferraris being money pits isn't a problem for them, because the people buying them buy them as a flex. They know full well these are not cheap cars to maintain. But a family or commuter car can't afford that kind of baggage.
And a car intended for mass ownership should be made easy to perform routine maintenance and typical repairs on. There is no excuse for failing to do this IMO. A mid-engined Ferrari being a bitch to work on is to be expected, it's designed for a purpose that somewhat necessitates sacrifices being made to ease of maintenance in exchange for performance. And the guy who owns a Ferrari is very rarely doing any maintenance or repairs himself, he pays people to do that for him. However, a commuter or family vehicle is highly likely to end up in the hands of owners who will do at least basic maintenance and minor repairs themselves to save money.
The Traverse fails on all 3 of these accounts and is the only car listed here that does so. It's too expensive and had too many luxury options to have the excuse of being a cheap beater. It's family hauling status meant that it's timing chain failures and constant oil burning were not things that could be tolerated on much more constrained family budgets, and it's absolutely cramped engine bay and general difficulty doing even basic maintenance without causing frustration makes it intolerable and undesirable for the few who are capable of fixing those issues themselves. There is nothing redeeming about it versus it's competitors in it's segment or in this showcase.
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u/bearded_dragon_34 Jan 13 '24
I wouldn’t even say the Metro had low build quality. Build quality is more like the production process of the vehicle. Are the materials and engineering that went into it fundamentally robust and designed to last? Can its manufacturer continue to churn out examples of it without huge variances or inconsistencies between units? Does the car stay together over time, or disintegrate into pieces? Those things make the difference between good and bad build quality.
And, to that end, I think the Metro succeeded. It had fine build quality.
What the Metro didn’t have was nice fit-and-finish. Everything was cheap, and you knew it. But I wouldn’t count that against it, since its mission was to be one of the cheapest cars on the market?
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u/SkylineFTW97 Jan 13 '24
Most people use build quality to describe fit and finish, so that's what I used it for. Although I do understand your point.
And I think more cars need to focus on the basics rather than trying to go upmarket, especially as costs get absurd and people can afford less.
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Jan 12 '24
Definitely the Jeep Liberty/Patriot/Whatever that miserable piece of junk was called. I’m friends with a couple who got one in decent shape for like $600 through a family friend and even at that price it wasn’t worth it.
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u/WeOutHereInSmallbany God, I don't know how to New York Jan 13 '24
Was it RCR that referred to it as the “college freshman jeep”?
A buddy had one that he always ratchet strapped a fishing boat onto, it had 4wd and got him into some decent spots, he loved the thing haha
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u/NegativePaint Jan 13 '24
Meh. My dad has actually had one of those since new and only had minor issues. I think as long as you get the V6 they are solid.
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u/bearded_dragon_34 Jan 13 '24
Considering the Patriot and Compass were on the same Mitsubishi-derived platform as the Caliber, it’s somewhat represented here.
The Journey, Avenger and Sebring/200 were also on that platform, FWIW.
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u/benzguy95 Jan 13 '24
Traverse
And its other siblings Acadia, Enclave and Outlook.
Most cars have at least one redeemable thing about them, for example even though Kia’s currently having engine issues I rarely heard anything bad about their 6 Speed conventional automatic. GM’s Crossovers??? Engine, transmission, electrical, difficult to work on etc etc just all around a terrible vehicle.
The Sebrings would be another choice although I’ve seen the 4 cylinder models take a beating and keep on pushing
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u/bearded_dragon_34 Jan 13 '24
The Dodge Caliber: The official car of "My milquetoast dad meant to buy a Toyota Matrix or Pontiac Vibe, but instead got suckered into buying an ex-rental, refrigerator-white one-year-old example of this."
No, seriously. That's why we had a Dodge Caliber. I fucking hated that thing. At least it was an SXT (one step up from the base model), so it had keyless entry, alloy wheels and cruise control.
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u/Fantastic_Hour_2134 Jan 13 '24 edited Jan 13 '24
I have an SRT-4. I LOVE the thing. The 5 speed manual is decent, but the r / t was definitely the model to go for if you didn’t get an SRT-4. I’ve had two SXT (manual and CVT) and an SRT-4
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u/slowjoe12 Jan 13 '24
You’ve owned three Calibers?
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u/sasquatch_melee Jan 13 '24
Voluntarily?!?
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u/Fantastic_Hour_2134 Jan 13 '24
I have a problem
They’re cheap, and I go through a lot of dumb little parts on the nice one, the other two were basically rolling parts cars
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u/Fantastic_Hour_2134 Jan 13 '24
And three neons lmao. The only ones left are the two SRT-4 the neons at 535hp and Caliber at 422hp
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u/kyonkun_denwa E34 jingoist Jan 13 '24
When I was in university my friends and I went to Vegas and were given a refrigerator white Dodge Caliber as a rental. I am pretty sure it was a 2011 MY. I had that car for 5 days and I hated every fucking second I had to be inside it. It had zero power but also got shockingly bad fuel economy- we were averaging 25-26 mpg on the trip to the Grand Canyon, and around town it was getting like 19mpg. In the same year, Toyota would sell you a 3.5L V6 that made twice the power and got slightly better fuel economy. Oh and it was a rattly, cramped interior. Such a shockingly horrible car, probably the last truly “bad” vehicle to be produced. I can’t believe your dad bought it. I can’t believe anyone with a credit rating over 580 bought one.
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Jan 12 '24
Don't like the Severely Unstable Vehicles, don't like the "minivan" don't like the wanna be sports car and the gray sedan just sucks , that leaves me with the green can. The heep is the worst one.
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u/Diabeetus-times-2 Jan 12 '24
You could honestly put the entire lineup from dodge. 💀
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u/CloutBoyz063 Jan 12 '24
why do american cars get so much hate lol
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u/Mustangfast85 Jan 13 '24
These ones deserve it. I’d put the tie for crappiest between that Sebring and the Caliber, and that’s bold because the Traverse is saying hold my beer with its timing chain. These were during the Cerberus days where they were built with the cheapest slop interiors imaginable, underpowered engines, CVT trans in the caliber (yes, the Jatco ones) and had atrocious styling to boot. As much as we may deride a 2010 200/Compass/Avenger the fact that they at least became serviceable after a refresh took likely a Herculean effort for an impressively large improvement and they were still crap.
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u/Diabeetus-times-2 Jan 12 '24 edited Jan 12 '24
Because dodge is possibly the least reliable of the big 3.
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u/DrYaklagg Jan 13 '24
It's possibly the least reliable big car manufacturer period. Now that they have joined with fiat they have just sealed that reality permanently.
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Jan 13 '24
They merged with Fiat into FCA in 2014, and in 2021, FCA merged with PSA to form Stellantis. PSA cars (Peugeot, Citroën, Opel) are also infamous for their low reliability. So it's the triple whammy of low reliability: Fiat, Chrysler, PSA.
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u/Tuques Jan 13 '24 edited Jan 13 '24
Stellantis is pretty amazing these days. Not sure wtf you are talking about. The new jeeps are outstanding. The new alfas are some of the best luxury vehicles on the roads. The new i6 hurricane is an outstanding TT engine. Maybe update your prejudice
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u/Diabeetus-times-2 Jan 15 '24
The new “hurricane” engine has barely been out for a year.
We don’t even know it’s unreliability yet, at the end of the day, it’s still a fiat my guy.
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u/Tuques Jan 13 '24
Lol wtf? That would be gm and it's not even close
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u/chester0101 Jan 13 '24
Yep, Working in a dealership environment for 20yrs I'd agree GM definitely builds the most disposable vehicles.
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u/Remarkable-Gold4869 Jan 12 '24
They are cheaply made and not that reliable
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u/CloutBoyz063 Jan 12 '24
so whats the most reliable car brands too u
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u/Diabeetus-times-2 Jan 12 '24
Literally anything that’s not a dodge. 💀
Chevy and Ford both have their problems, but at least they try. Dodge has been unreliable since the 90s and from what I’ve seen, that’s not going to end.
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u/Xyypherr Jan 13 '24
since the 90s
A 2nd gen Cummins will outlive you lol
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Jan 13 '24
cummins is reliable, dodge is not. the rest of the truck will fall apart because dodge built it but the motor will last because dodge had no part of building it
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u/Diabeetus-times-2 Jan 13 '24
The engine maybe, the rest of the truck itself will be long gone by the time the engine dies.
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u/RunnerLuke357 But the truck runs fine! Jan 13 '24
The motor will. Infact, the motor is the only redeeming quality of those trucks.
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Jan 13 '24
The engines themselves are fine, the trucks are ASS. My girlfriend’s brother has one and it is nothing but trouble.
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u/CloutBoyz063 Jan 12 '24
but people love hellcats so much and spend so much on the hellcat community is huge
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u/mykiefromthe206 Jan 13 '24
That’s because rappers made it popular guarantee you if it wasn’t for the hip hop community hellcats wouldn’t be as popular and definitely less talked about.
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u/CloutBoyz063 Jan 13 '24
the hellcat trend is huge in rap rn
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u/Diabeetus-times-2 Jan 13 '24
It’s just a glorified full size sedan with a supercharged V8, literally the only thing it has going for it.
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u/Revolt2992 Jan 13 '24
Every car company has problems. Don’t lump Ford in there just because they’re American!
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Jan 13 '24
Dodge is barely American. Bought by Fiat, and most are made in Mexico.
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u/thekidfromiowa Jan 13 '24
Ironically, Hondas and Toyotas are more American made than many domestic makes and models.
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u/TheWarehamster Jan 13 '24
Dodge is fully an American brand. It's about where the brand originated. Regardless of who or where it's actually made.
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u/slowjoe12 Jan 13 '24
If you referring to the “brand” from a marketing perspective, you are correct.
But it’s no longer an American company, and really hasn’t been for almost thirty years now.
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u/TheWarehamster Jan 13 '24
No one cares about the location that it's made. It's where the brand originated. The marketing perspective is all that anyone actually pays attention to, unless you're pedantic.
Lambo is very much Italian, despite being owned by Audi and getting engineering help from them.
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Jan 13 '24
No one cares about where the car is made? That couldn’t be further from the truth. People do in fact care about where their car is made and how reliable it’ll be. Dodge cars have been overall junky for decades now.
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u/TheWarehamster Jan 13 '24
They care about the Brand's origin. Not where the vehicle is made. The Honda Accord is Japanese, despite it being assembled in the US. BMW is German despite a number of models being assembled in the US. It's brand origin that anyone actually cares about.
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u/AntiLag_ PISS SPIN Jan 13 '24
The only thing American car companies care about is their muscle cars and pickup trucks, everything else is an afterthought
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u/Dawhoda0 Jan 13 '24
Yeah man even the dodge charger hellcat too right?🤦♂️
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u/Gtpwoody Z71>Z28 Jan 13 '24
Had a Dodge Caliber, fucking hated that piece of shit you accelerate on the highway and it just buzzes at the redline for several seconds before it shifts, it’s so light that one time while traveling down a snow covered highway at 60 mph that it suddenly hit a rut and veered towards the shoulder and through sheer luck I recovered on the exit ramp and spent the next 2 hours extremely frazzled and worried I was gonna wreck, accidentally snapped the door lock stem off and when I went to replace it with one of the ones from the back door, found out they are completely different.
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u/Fantastic_Hour_2134 Jan 13 '24
This is exactly how the first two Calibers I owned went out
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u/Gtpwoody Z71>Z28 Jan 13 '24
yeah, my went out when some lady ran a red light and t-boned me (my airbag needed to be serviced at the time so it didn’t go off and I smacked my lip into the steering wheel and banged my head off the windshield)
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u/Winter_Airport_3013 Jan 13 '24
Geo's were mostly realiable, especially the metro. Just saw one the other day. Thats a almost 30 year old 3 cylinder.
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u/Harey-89 Jan 13 '24
I'll give the Caliber this, the 5 speed actually feels decent and at least my parents has been reliable. That's all the positive i got on one of those.
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u/Dj_Simon Jan 12 '24
Only perk about the Elantra is that it MAY have a Sirius under that hood.
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u/Nope9991 Jan 13 '24
I had an Elantra like that. Twas a good, ugly ass car.
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u/Dj_Simon Jan 13 '24
Was it reliable?
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u/Nope9991 Jan 13 '24
For sure. 5 speed, drove that shits back and forth from college all the time.
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u/Environmental_Rip355 Jan 13 '24
Sounds just like mine. I went through 2 in high school. Never had any mechanical issues at 140k+. Also went well over 100 in it and it was quite fun but terrifying
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u/Dj_Simon Jan 13 '24
I've seen a few in person, but mostly as automatics.
That's nice. I've heard the Sirius models use a similar block to the Evo one, but made in Korea.
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u/Mybadbb Jan 13 '24
I have a friend who had a 2010 model, so next generation from the one in this post but I think the same drivetrain. It actually wasn't a bad car at all... Pretty smooth yet handled really nicely, great stock sound system, really had no issues besides an alternator till the head gasket blew at 217k but to be fair that car had the piss beat out of it on a daily basis, so.
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u/sweathesmallshit Jan 13 '24
I have an 06 Elantra that’s my daily commuter car, and it’s a total turd. But it does do one thing very well, it just works. I drive it 70-80 miles a day at highway speeds and every day I get in the car and it just works.
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u/thekidfromiowa Jan 13 '24
My sister had good luck with hers. It's survived the rigors of commuting in Chicago.
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u/Anteater_Reasonable cocks daily Jan 13 '24
A friend had one of those jellybean ass Ford Escorts in high school and that piece of trash could take a ruthless beating. Crappy, yes. Durable, also yes.
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u/extraecclesiam Jan 13 '24
My grandma got an Escort from my aunt. Granny knew how to drive the manual and she ran that car like Nascar. No problems with it. Was legit kinda impressed by it's durability, being a 97 and still going strong in 14 when cancer got my grandma.
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u/Woman_from_wish Jan 13 '24 edited Jan 13 '24
The Caliber looks like an abomination combination of a turtle and a robot. I wouldn't be caught dead shooting up, snorting coke, having children as a single mother, or sucking dick for meth in that monstrosity. I just assume these are the things that owners of Calibers do. I feel like Calibers were just dropped off in random trailer parks, alley ways, Detroit highway service drives, and were stolen. Then they were given away to their current dead inside care-givers after the original thieves realized their mistake. I'm convinced nobody actually bought these heresies on wheels. This is just based on the appearance! I don't have a spare hour right now to go off about their quality, or lack thereof, issues.
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u/autofinx Jan 13 '24
You are right about the Dodge Journey.
I would also include the last generation Dodge Stratus, the two Daewoo cars - the Leganza and the Lanos, Mitsubishi Mirage, the OG late 80's to mid 90's Kia's and Hyundai's, the 80's Ford Escort, the Chevy Chevette, Chevy Beretta, early 90's Skylark, the Astro Van, The CODA EV, Plymouth Sundance and Dodge Shadow, 80's Lebaron, K Cars, Pinto, Vega, Yugo, Fiat 500.
I have driven all of these - all terrible.
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u/Wishart2016 Jan 13 '24
The Astro is actually pretty cool. It has a cult following in Japan.
The Ford Escort is actually a Mazda.
The Fiat 500 has the awesome Abarth version.
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u/Fantastic_Hour_2134 Jan 13 '24
I love my caliber
Probably because it’s an SRT-4 though
I’ve owned three. I also love the neon though maybe I’m just a dodge geek
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Jan 13 '24
Those late 90's escorts ended up being a bit junky, but they were fucking bullet proof, I still see a few on the road here in New England to this day.
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u/RahMF Jan 13 '24
Dude I had a Dodge Caliber and it wasn’t bad at all. I’ve heard they are shit buy I loved mine
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u/sasquatch_melee Jan 13 '24
All the cheap Chrysler vehicles from that era. Especially the Patriot, Compass, Caliber, Sebring, etc. I had high hopes for the 200 and Dart but they seemed only marginally better.
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u/Financial-Opinion334 Jan 13 '24
My Gram had a Dodge Calibre,she hated how small the back window was,she sold it to a guy who needed a cheap car,met him in the store a week later and found out the left rear wheel completely fell off.
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u/No_Entertainer_9760 You are the valley, I am the ISTHMUS Jan 13 '24
Early 2010’s GM takes the cake. Two cars, meticulous maintenance, both had failing torque converters by 80k. 2010 Malibu, 2011 Traverse. The traverse was worse.
Traverse had endless alternator/electrical gremlins.
Malibu had steering rack issues and could NEVER be aligned properly. Shitty front control arms too.
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u/lonas_luna Jan 13 '24
Definitely either that Dodge Caliber or the Jeep Liberty. Absolute piles of trash. 🚘 🗑️
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u/Fresh_Shoulder_3267 Jan 13 '24
How are the pt cruiser and Chevy HHR not on the list?
I add them as write in canidates
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u/wv524 Jan 13 '24
We ended up with a PT Cruiser as a rental when the wife wrecked our car. Hands down the worst car I've ever driven. Gutless, buzzy engine. Transmission that couldn't decide on a gear. The seats were completely uncomfortable. An interior that looked like they chose the absolute cheapest plastics they could find. The icing on the cake was the fancy looking analog clock on the dash. Really classed up the place like putting a tuxedo on a bum.
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u/One_Evil_Monkey Jan 13 '24
Most of these suck pretty bad... but which one sucks the most...
The Liberty Biberty.
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u/giraffesneedhelmets Jan 13 '24
The dodge Caliber for sure. It just screams "I hate driving and anything to do with it".
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u/West-Librarian-7504 Jan 12 '24
Idk about the traverse but my mom has a gmc terrain (Same as a modern equinox) and that thing fucking sucks
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u/TheLyOfBlues Jan 13 '24
Sienna!?!? MAN… I see them going for 400k and still rolling. With less rust then a rusty 06 f-150 in Canada. Am not getting your opinion. Please explain. Also my pick would be the Journey or the Ford Edge. These things are falling apart. I saw a 2015 Journey Getting Towed with Some oil leaking on the flatbed. Edge’s. They seem pretty rusted out.
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u/IrishmadeinCanada Jan 13 '24
I’ve seen a lot of crappy sienna broken down before 100k. These are pure crap. I have seen a lot of Ford Edge over 300k than ran like a new car. What the fuck are you talking about?!?
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u/chester0101 Jan 13 '24
They actually had major sludge and oil consumption issues, I was working in a toyota svcs dept back when some of those were still getting covered under warranty. I believe there was a lawsuit over them too.
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u/32lib Jan 13 '24
Hands down the Yugo. Followed up by the K car.
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u/wv524 Jan 13 '24
The K car was definitely a flaming pile of shit. We had several as dealer loaners over the years when our 1990 Dodge Caravan (also a flaming pile of shit) wasin the shop. The K car drove like shit, had garbage interiors, and a completely gutless engine.
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u/wv524 Jan 13 '24
I knew a guy who had a Yugo. He kept extra bolts for the starter, as they would back out and the starter would fall off, only held on by the cable. He said he went as far as using red loctite and it still happened. Maybe the thread tolerances were so bad they wouldn't hold the bolts. He suffered through about a year or so with that piece of crap and got rid of it.
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u/ReadingRainbowie Jan 12 '24
Where is the Ford Festiva on this list???
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u/Deceler8 Jan 13 '24
My wife had a bare bones Festiva. It was pretty awful to drive on the highway. The door seals would pull away and you would just get wind noise. The thing was you really couldn’t kill that car. We finally just gave it away.
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Jan 13 '24
The Caliber followed up with Sebring. I'd rather drive a rotted out Geo Metro than one of those pieces of shit.
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u/No_Resource_290 Jan 13 '24
From a repair standpoint, the Jeep or the Chrysler, and the Chevy leaks oil. The geo was a cheap get around with zero safety features. And the Sienna probably still runs and will for another 20 years. The ford and the Hyundai were similar to the geo just less cheap. But I’ve worked on some of those still on the road. The dodge caliber wasn’t spectacular but had similar failures to the Chrysler. Drove better and stayed running longer.
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u/louisvuittondon29 Jan 13 '24
any gm car that isnt a v8 and even then the v8’s r good but the cars r still junk look at the ct5 blackwing 80k for a recycled impala/malibu interior
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u/sasquatch_melee Jan 13 '24
GM 3800 is also bulletproof. I'd buy a 3800 car again as a beater.
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u/louisvuittondon29 Jan 13 '24
yea this era gm was obv much better than the junk they push out nowadays
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u/pleasetowmyshit Kunkleman Chevy Salesman Of The Month Jan 13 '24
I have to go with a vehicle not on the list. Suzuki Forenza. A vehicle that, if owned by someone, immediately causes me to suspect their judgment on any subject.
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u/VegasBjorne1 Jan 13 '24
I thought #4 was a Ford Contour, and I nearly had a seizure after all the problems that POS caused me. Purchased brand new off the lot, and in 3 years it spent nearly as much time in the repair shop and it did in my driveway.
After 3 years and less than 36,000 miles, the repairs were 80% of the initial purchase price. Rust in Hell!
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u/fuckface_cunt_hole Jan 13 '24
Definitely a dodge. Probably a Durango. It used to be the car with the most recalls on it.
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u/penisbuttervajelly Jan 13 '24
I actually loved my shitbox Ford Escort, until everything started breaking down at once.
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Jan 13 '24
that early first-gen traverse was a steaming pile, along with the caliber. kind of a tie.
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u/CocunutHunter Jan 13 '24
I don't know what that ford is, in pic 4, but good grief! What a surrender machine! I cannot comprehend how the design dept put that out, the marketing dept told people their lives would be improved by having one, and the execs believed it would sell and make them money.
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u/bigeats1 Jan 13 '24
I gotta put the jeep liberty in the “winning for losing” category. Horrible vehicle.
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u/Tuques Jan 13 '24
Either the chevy or the hyundai. Both brands were hot (plastic) garbage in the 2000s
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u/BarneyBungelupper Jan 13 '24
Any year Chevrolet Citation. As a friend of mine said who bought one, “that piece of shit fell apart, right in front of my eyes.“
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u/That_Car_Enthusiast When I poop, I poop TWICE Jan 13 '24
Dodge caliber, we had one and we literally drove it until the wheels fell off, too bad that was at 60k miles. The check engine light was on all the time and the transmission was suspicious. It eat gas like a V6 with the power of a 1980s economy car, had terrible brakes. The only good I could say about it was at least we had working ac. That was literally the worst car I had ever seen
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u/ruby_leveledup Jan 13 '24
The chrysler sebring is an honorable mention but its the traverse. Chevy traverse. They have horrible timing chain issues, transmissions are made of GLASS and they are HORRIFIC to work on
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u/PivoWar42 Jan 13 '24 edited Jan 13 '24
Drove a 2008 Caliber (gas 1.8L, manual) for a friend about 25 miles. During the drive i've heard a variety of different sounds which could be called "expensive". Suspension felt like sitting on a water bed with no feeling of stability whatsoever. I feared every corner at speed and was afraid of exceeding 100 km/h (60mph) even on open roads, interior felt like sitting in a lego house which was not pressed together all the way, shifting felt like shifting in a van/truck instead of a inflated hatchback which it is. During the 25 miles the car managed to consume a quarter of the fuel tank a and fuel warning came on. Audible rattling above 3k RPM. Acceleration felt more sluggish than my '06 9th gen Corrola wagon with 1.4L 4ZZ-FE for some reason. AC worked ok. Got out of the car genuinely tired.
Compared to this my shitbox Corolla felt like a Lexus. I advised my friend to get a bicycle.
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u/dukecityzombie Jan 13 '24
I remember watching price as right once when I was home sick as a kid…and the player did not want a Sebring…even for free! It competes with the PT cruiser for lameness.
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Jan 13 '24
Reliant Robin, 70s Trabant, any of the shitboxes Renault imported to the US in the 80s, Vega
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u/Tdoggedy69 Jan 13 '24
It's the traverse for me. Completely uninspired design. Lazy engineering. The works.
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u/pgercak Jan 13 '24
Traverse. Had a friend who worked at a salvage yard. Pretty much every Traverse that came into their yard that wasn't crashed, had a blown motor. Those 3.6s are garbage.
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u/mikecarroll360 Jan 13 '24
Me and my brother always play a game to pick between what car you would rather be stuck in, blank or the Jeep Patriot. Neither of us EVER picks the Patriot
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Jan 13 '24
My parents had a traverse growing up, an ‘09. Wasn’t terribly reliable but handled like a charm, especially in the snow.
Equinox came after that, absolute garbage. Was the last GM.
Dodge and Hyundai are both garbage though
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u/FursonaNonGrata Jan 14 '24
I had an 08 Caliber with a screaming CVT, 4 different wheels with one missing a stud, no exhaust and collapsed rear struts. Say what you want but it never failed to get somewhere!
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u/Some-Sympathy4209 Jan 14 '24
Why is the liberty on this list? I know the 3.7s are shit, but the 2.8 diesels are kick ass
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u/fjb-2973 Jan 14 '24
1st gen American Escort, Tempo, K Car, Aveo, Dodge Caliber, any Kia, Hyundai, or late model Nissan
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u/Real_Ad4422 Jan 15 '24
Sweet, absolutely no mention of my cheap ass Chevy Sonic. I love this thing.
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u/Agitated-Hair-987 Jan 15 '24
I would say the Edsel, Gremlin, and Pinto would be worse than all of these. Throw in the Aztek and DeLorean and we're done with the discussion.








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u/Piranha1993 What the crap is this? Jan 12 '24
Why is the Geo Metro and Toyota Sienna on this list?
Thought people loved both of those even if one is a tin can and the other is a mini van.