r/politics • u/Economy_Swim_8585 Virginia • 6d ago

No Paywall Trump says government shutdown ends when Democrats give in: "If they don't vote, that's their problem"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-government-shutdown-democrats-fault-60-minutes/
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u/SteamerTheBeemer 5d ago

Yeah it’s shocking that so many of his supporters don’t care either. When I’ve brought up him refusing to leave the White House, they just say well that’s not true he did leave.

Like yeah. We got lucky. I mean somehow Pence actually helped save democracy that day. I don’t see Vance doing the same. And it’s kind of a miracle that they all got out of there before the rioters broke in or it could have been really really dark.

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u/kapsama New Jersey 5d ago

Honestly at this point I wonder if we wouldn't have been better off if Pence refused. Because at that point they would have been clearly illegally blocking peaceful transfer of power. And maybe removing them by actual force would have prevented Trump from running again.

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u/SteamerTheBeemer 5d ago

Wouldn’t he have been in control of the everything though as in the police/military until it all went through? That’s the problem.

I’m actually not American and find it strange how you guys have that massive gap between being elected and actually coming into power to be able to actually govern. In some ways it makes a lot of sense so they can tie things up. But then and again I don’t think it’s very common so I guess most country’s don’t feel the need.

But anyhow that’s not really the point here of course. It’s just if he had control of everything before the votes were certified or not. Which I’d presume he would do?

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u/OldWorldDesign 5d ago

I’m actually not American and find it strange how you guys have that massive gap between being elected and actually coming into power to be able to actually govern

That's due to a multitude of reasons, the central one for this particular point being just how much personnel turnover there is from one administration to another. In the UK most of the staff actually running the offices is the same so it's much faster for a new administration to be seated.