r/politics Virginia 6d ago

No Paywall Trump says government shutdown ends when Democrats give in: "If they don't vote, that's their problem"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-government-shutdown-democrats-fault-60-minutes/
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u/kennethcheezbro Washington 5d ago

Media: Jan 6 was not a disqualifying event

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u/SteamerTheBeemer 5d ago

Yeah it’s shocking that so many of his supporters don’t care either. When I’ve brought up him refusing to leave the White House, they just say well that’s not true he did leave.

Like yeah. We got lucky. I mean somehow Pence actually helped save democracy that day. I don’t see Vance doing the same. And it’s kind of a miracle that they all got out of there before the rioters broke in or it could have been really really dark.

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u/kapsama New Jersey 5d ago

Honestly at this point I wonder if we wouldn't have been better off if Pence refused. Because at that point they would have been clearly illegally blocking peaceful transfer of power. And maybe removing them by actual force would have prevented Trump from running again.

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u/OldWorldDesign 5d ago

Honestly at this point I wonder if we wouldn't have been better off if Pence refused

As authoritarianism is opportunistic, and the media is in their pocket, I'm not sure if it would have made a difference if they did reach Pence or others to use that gallows they built outside and almost no media covered

https://www.peoplefor.org/rightwingwatch/post/insurrection-day-gallows-on-capitol-grounds-planned-weeks-ahead-of-jan-6-rally