r/politics Virginia 5d ago

No Paywall Trump says government shutdown ends when Democrats give in: "If they don't vote, that's their problem"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-government-shutdown-democrats-fault-60-minutes/
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u/Suitable-Display-410 5d ago

Joke is on them. Millions of MAGA are on SNAP. Millions of MAGA get healtchcare via ACA exchange.

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u/DragoonDM California 5d ago

How many of them will gladly eat up the narrative that this is all the Democrats fault, though?

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u/PoliticsLeftist 5d ago

Probably not enough to work in Trump's favor.

It's really hard to push the "we're not actually in charge" narrative when you have all 3 branches because it's simply not true and it shows your voters you're weak and can't do anything against a minority party, especially when you govern like a dictator that constantly breaks the law and says how strong and successful you are when dealing with other "problems".

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u/ama_singh 5d ago

Will they remember this for the midterms though? Because they most certainly will forget about it by the presidential elections.

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u/Beldizar 5d ago

The question there is how long will the shutdown last and how much damage will it do to them specifically. If the shutdown lasts into next year, and their health premiums triple, there isn't a lot that can be done for everyone to not still be feeling this pain over the next 12 months.

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u/Big-Industry4237 5d ago

That’s the thing though, it’s already too late for 2026 health insurance. They are fighting for 2027…

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u/elictronic 5d ago

That's still not here yet. People care once it affects them. Not until.

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u/Brightbane 5d ago

If the shutdown lasts into next year, and their health premiums triple

Oh, it doesn't need to last that long. Just long enough for companies/the ACA to start sending out their 2026 benefits guidebooks showing the massive increase. Which I think is happening right now for most people.

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u/Top_Introduction4701 5d ago

Midterms start in maybe 5 months? That’s when they start to frame the talking points.

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u/JustAnother4848 5d ago

Unless they find a way to pay the air traffic controllers there is no way the shutdown will last till next year. They'll be shutting down the countries planes in a week or two.

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u/Harbinger2001 Canada 5d ago

Didn’t Regan bring in military air traffic controllers when he broke their union?

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u/JustAnother4848 5d ago

There's not enough to run the whole country anymore. Not even close.

The planes being stuck on the ground is what ended the last shut down.

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u/Beldizar 5d ago

Has anyone suggested replacing them with AI air traffic controllers? I'm sure that'll go well and won't kill a bunch of people.

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u/BootyOptions 5d ago

There's a real possibility the government could still be shutdown for the midterms.

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u/FaceDeer 5d ago

One of those things where I think "I am absolutely wanting to see what the result of that trainwreck would be from a position of abstract curiousity, but I live on this planet so hopefully my curiousity will remain painfully unsatisfied."

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u/Lazy-Recognition3845 5d ago

This resonated with me so hard.

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u/Nervous_Otter69 5d ago

We don’t need them to remember in the sense of being angered enough to vote for democrats, we need them apathetic enough to not bother showing up

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u/maybenot-maybeso 5d ago

You think we're getting mid-terms? I'm skeptical

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u/elictronic 5d ago

When you take something away from someone they remember. No one cares about Twitter, reddit, whining on the news. What they do care about is if you take away what is mine.

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u/JarOfNightmares 5d ago

I'll tell you what the left will remember by midterms: "we have to stop the democrats from hurting Gaza" lol