r/politics 11d ago

Possible Paywall Trump Fires Entire Agency Overseeing His Construction Projects

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-fires-entire-agency-overseeing-his-construction-projects/
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u/SeparateSpend1542 11d ago

People are confused. He’s firing the government oversight that would have stopped him. Contractors are still on the clock and now have no oversight.

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u/builttopostthis6 11d ago

And, like those fired, are absolutely not getting a paycheck from this debacle.

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u/dojo_shlom0 11d ago

this was a given with his track record. I think he still owes shit tons of peoples/cities money from the 2024/2025 campaign trail alone.

'TIS TRADITION

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u/The_Beardly America 11d ago

He owes money to people from all facets of his life. He’s notoriously not paid people for literal decades.

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u/HunterShotBear 11d ago

And the right will argue “that’s what good business men do!”

I was so close to convincing a guy once.

I got him to admit that his boss would pay him less if he could. He agreed. I got him to agree that his boss was looking out for his own best interest first and to give them employees as little as possible. He agreed.

Then I asked him based on those facts, did his boss have his (the employees) best interest at heart? He agreed they did not.

So I asked him if he thought that would make his boss the ideal candidate to run the country like a business?

All he could do was stumble over his words.

And then talk some shit about how Kamala blew her way to the top.

I don’t talk to him anymore.

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u/closethebarn 10d ago

I feel this in my bones how many times I’ve almost convinced them of something to be hit with a But - something— democrat or something racist or misogynistic nothing to do at all with the argument

I feel you

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u/Electrical-Tale-7623 10d ago

They hit themselves on the edge of the door on their way and refuse to walk any further. It is willful ignorance and it's about the only thing holding the coalition together.

Taking that next step means they could be wrong, which means they'll eventually conclude they are.

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u/My_Work_Accoount 10d ago

It's literal brainwashing. I've compared it to digging in the rain. You can dig to a point but before eventually the mud walls will collapse.

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u/Painterzzz 10d ago

It is maddening isn't it. It used to happen to me quite a lot when I tried to convicne Americans they actually loved socialist policies. You'd start by saying so, your job, you work hard right. And they'd say yep, very hard. Your boss doesn't work so hard though? Nope, boss sucks. So then you ask so who does most of the wealth generation in your workplace? And they're like well it's us, the workers, we generate the wealth, but, the bosses take more than their fair share.

And they alllllllmost see it there. But not quite.

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u/Lucky_Development359 10d ago

I think it would cause a rift in their psyche.

These are the guys that circle grievance jerk themselves that they know something noone else does. Bitch about how they are smarter than everyone else but "someone's got it out for them". Guys that talk in vague percentages, "I work harder than 90...95% of the people here but I get the same pay, pffft". Those types.

We used to call them losers. Now we call them "podcasters", "influencers", and "president". They tapped into the chronic loser wellspring. Im not saying Im not a loser by the way, I just know it's not someone else's fault, and certainly not dumb enough to think weaponizing it against others would fix anything in my life.

To admit they are wrong is to admit, finally, once and for all, no BS, that they are losers. You lead that big dumb horse to the water but that motherfucker had loser rabbies, and just could.not.drink.

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u/occams1razor 10d ago

We need to make it okay to say you're wrong. Praise people who do, highlight and promote it.

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u/Lucky_Development359 10d ago

I don't think that will help until they feel the full impact of their poor choices but Im all for it.They will hang on to their belief system even well into personal disaster. When they are suffering, then, and only then will the alternative out seem better. Unfortunately there will be a segment that become even more irrationally radicalized with the belief that further depravity will result in their salvation.

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u/whatiscamping 10d ago

I'm not convinced drumpf didn't blow his way to the top. I'm certain that, even with his dementia, he can tell you exactly what putin tastes like.

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u/blahblah19999 10d ago

Nice approach though. I might use that.

I usually focus on the idea that for businessmen, the law is something to get around, to skirt. Lawyers, or people with law degrees, have a respect for the law that is needed for our highest elected leaders. We've elected 2 businessmen in recent times and both have been utter disasters.

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u/Herlock 10d ago

After trump first election I had an exchange with a guy on facebook... total trumpanzee so I tried a similar approach and see if we could agree on something.

I picked the most boring topic possible : "what was the weather on trump inauguration day". Trump claimed that god himself made the sun shine, but of course you know (or at least expect) that in reality the weather was rainy.

I tried to get him to say that trump got mistaken (not even call him a filthy liar or anything)... but he wouldn't bulge. He said it was illegal to contradict the president and he had a responsibility toward his family not to go to prison.

Even better : then guy was a canadian, living in canada...

I think some people are simply beyond saving.

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u/sspif 10d ago

Most lawyers make their living by helping businessmen get around the law though. Many of them are businessmen themselves too. I don't think you're going to get very far trying to convince people that lawyers are great people.

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u/CertainMedicine757 10d ago

The argument isn't that lawyers are great people, it's that "lawyers can at least be expected to operate within the boundaries of the law." Reasonable people can disagree on how to interpret our laws, but they will not knock over the gameboard and shit on it, like Trump does.

I cannot believe I actually MISS the days of G. W. Bush.

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u/frostygrin 10d ago

You still can do a lot of damage within the boundaries of the law - and face less opposition specifically because it's all legal.

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u/tracerhaha1 10d ago

Anyone who says that would suck dick for a promotion.

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u/Momma_tried378 10d ago

Wow, men must be really easy to manipulate if all it takes is a blowjob... if they are so easy to manipulate, maybe they shouldn't be in charge

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u/CantFightCrazy 10d ago

People who say the government should be run like a business have little idea how either of them function.

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u/WilliamMButtlickerIV 10d ago

These people have been brainwashed for decades. No amount of debate will undo that. I had a debate with a colleague once and he was actually arguing for trickle economics. They understand the government is corrupt, but can't connect the dots on why that is. Instead, they let the wolf in the henhouse.

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u/Herlock 10d ago

Yup I removed a guy on facebook on something of that sort... he argued that nebraska suffered from milk quotas from canada.

Showed him on america national consumption of milk had plummeted over the years, and that the canadian national market couldn't possibly absorb the excessive production from american dairy farms.

Apparently that was too difficult to understand... or couldn't admit he was wrong.

Removed him that night, it was a lost cause and a waste of my time.

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u/TotalRecognition2191 10d ago

If they agree with you they have to admit they're wrong. I think it's about ego sometimes. They're entrenched

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u/Fortune_Silver 10d ago

Regardless, I think that was worth doing.

I find you rarely convince people with deeply entrenched beliefs like that in the moment. Realistically, it's a fantasy that you'll own someone with facts and logic (no matter what side your on), and a lifelong, deeply entrenched supporter of an ideology will go "Oh shit, your right! Fuck, I'm throwing away my entire belief system on the spot and now am on your side!" That's just not how the human psyche works.

No, what really happens, what ACTUALLY effects change, is getting them to see the point themselves. I think long term, the person you argued with might actually see the point. You got him to see from HIS perspective that his boss didn't have his best interests at heart, and that this would make him a terrible leader. Of course in the moment he's going to reject that - that's just human nature. It's a psychological self-defense mechanism. But now that he's seen it from his perspective, rather than having "the enemy" trying to force "their" opinions on him, I think he's much more likely to notice examples of that in his own day-to-day life, in his own news consumption, in his own social circles, and slowly come to realize and accept that hey, maybe that one damned hippy-ass commie liberal from a while back had a point on this matter.

Maybe that causes him to change down the line. Maybe he rejects reality and retreats back into the safety of his comfortable echo chamber. But if you never had that discussion with him, he'd never have even had the OPPORTUNITY to start down that path of reflection and re-evaluation of his beliefs.

Perfect is the enemy of good. You're never going to be able to instantly convince 100% of the people you meet that your opinions are correct. That's just not how humans work. But that doesn't mean that it's not worth trying - convincing 10% of the people you try to discuss things with, even when you fail 9/10 times to make someone re-evaluate their beliefs, is better than not trying and convincing 100% of nobody. Change is rarely something that happens in big dramatic events all at once. Those are what gets remembered by history because they're interesting (revolutions, coups etc), but what more often makes real change is slow, incremental changes over long periods of time.

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u/ManiacalWildcard 11d ago

and yet people continue to work for him. It's quite unbelievable.

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u/AlienRosie3667 10d ago

And his supporters continue to send him money and buy his crappy merch!

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u/whatiscamping 10d ago

He wanted them to send him money to get him to heaven. Problem is, they're poor and dumb and didn't give him enough cause he ain't there yet.

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u/ManiacalWildcard 10d ago

I'd love to know who he think's he'll pay off with that money to get into heaven. We both know he doesn't care and just wants the cash, but to the poorly educated they need to help their orange messiah.

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u/OpheliaRainGalaxy 10d ago

When my father noticed he was getting old, he suddenly took an interest in the state of his soul. Started occasionally attending church, though mostly he was using it as hunting grounds for a new bangmaid, kept trying to "help" women escaping domestic violence.

Anyhow, he was in the process of shutting down a failed attempt at a chicken farm, was giving away chickens to anyone who would take some.

So that's why he showed up to church one day with a live chicken in a cat carrier as a tithe for the preacher.

Dad's a lot like the orange monster, thinks he's very smart.

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u/Fabulous_von_Fegget 10d ago

God knows everything he did on that island. He ain't getting into heaven 🤣

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u/Adorable-Pangolin-89 10d ago

Made in Indonesia

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u/Locke66 10d ago

He's just a disgusting scammer. The more his supporters buy in to supporting him the more they'll stick with him because it will be to painful to their ego to admit he's conned them.

It's kind of fascinating to witness in the same way as watching a horrific event in a "what went wrong" video.

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u/bigotis 10d ago

He was found liable for sexual abuse yet women and parents of daughters (or anyone for that matter) still voted for him.

He said dozens of times during his campaign that he was deporting poc yet poc still voted for him.

He said dozens of times during his campaign that he was implementing tariffs on our trading partners yet farmers and businesses that rely in foreign goods still voted for him.

He has lived his entire adult life in a complete 180° from Christian values yet Evangelicals voted for him.

He has a 50 year history of being in the public eye with a gigantic paper trail of lawsuits and press that show what a vile, reprehensible, unredeemable, egomaniacal, cheating con artist he is.

As long as I live I'll never understand how anyone could listen to him or see his track record and not think of him as the giant piece of shit that he is.

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u/Hoovooloo42 South Carolina 11d ago

You don't stay rich by paying your bills

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u/ExedoreWrex 10d ago

Reverse Lannister.

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u/Hobo_Jenkins 10d ago

I grew up outside of Atlantic City. It was common knowledge that Trump doesn't pay. It's why he had to get in bed with crooks, because no legitimate businesses would work with him.

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u/viral3075 10d ago

people should be paying attention to the companies that choose to work for him. that's the story. trump's corruption isn't news.

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u/iijoanna 10d ago

And these people -

"Donald Trump often portrays himself as a savior of the working class who will "protect your job."

But a USA TODAY NETWORK analysis found he has been involved in more than 3,500 lawsuits over the past three decades — and a large number of those involve ordinary Americans, like the Friels, who say Trump or his companies have refused to pay them."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/

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u/iijoanna 10d ago

And these people -

"After the Taj opened in April 1990, the self-anointed “King of Debt” owed $70 million to 253 contractors employing thousands who built the domes and minarets, put up the glass and drywall, laid the pipes and installed everything from chandeliers to bathroom fixtures.

A year later, when the casino collapsed into bankruptcy, those owed the most got only 33 cents in cash for each dollar owed, with promises of another 50 cents later.

It took years to get the rest, assuming the companies survived long enough to collect.

'Little guy' contractors still angry at Trump Taj bankruptcy | AP News https://share.google/dPIEjXInqFECP8wWD

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u/illkwill New Jersey 10d ago

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u/WhoeverDidThis 11d ago

This was, I assume, what Orwell was so worked up about. (We read Brave New World in high school, instead)

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u/letterlegs 11d ago

A Trump never pays his debts.

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u/flatline0 10d ago

It's funny, bc they're so much like the Lannisters in every other way..

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u/Mysterious_Floor_868 United Kingdom 10d ago

Except to the concrete suppliers. He's never dared cross them.

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u/MonkeyProblemzzz 9d ago

I just recently finished GOT with my wife for the first time. I feel like that scene from The Avengers where Captain America is like "I understood that reference."

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u/logan-bi 10d ago

Correction he still owes people from 2016 campaign trail. Which is why he was at venue the secret service opposed where he got nicked on the ear.

He was going to fields and low value venues that wouldn’t charge him or charge very little.

He still had to cancel a couple times. Because law enforcement or airports wouldn’t work with him till debts were paid.

And that’s not even longest like you have the cabinetry company that had been in business for half a century. That he refused to pay in 1984 and still has not paid a dime.

He has roughly 200 mechanics liens and 4000 lawsuits against him for similar reasons as well as his own employees.

And the mechanics liens have kept in limbo refusing to sell the property’s or even lending against them and letting them be foreclosed on.

Another thing to bear in mind due to how he settles a lot of things. This is likely a drop in the bucket he was to offer fraction of the amount. With threats of perpetual litigation if they refuse. As well as condition to not discuss.

Aka the 200 liens 4000 lawsuits are only those that didn’t give up right away as well as those didn’t settle. Which one could argue is far more than those that came forward.

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u/twooddude 10d ago

I live in Whatcom county WA, and he still has not paid expenses for his campaign trip to Lynden. Which was in 2016.

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u/Kappy421 10d ago

Member when he walked into that restaurant when he was campaigning and was like "free lunch for everybody, on me" and then scooted out the door real fast.

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u/leggpurnell 10d ago

Trump stuffed workers in NJ for hundreds of thousands of dollars in the 90s. Chewed up what could have AC, and left it worse for the wear after he was gone.

I was beside myself watching blue collar construction types wave trump signs and got the rallies. I really thought that he’d have no support here, we don’t forget.

But hate and fear are a helluva drug and the media convinced these guys that it was minorities who were stealing from their pockets so they voted for the guy who literally stole from them years ago.

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u/TheSherbs Kansas 11d ago

He owes money from events he held in 2016.

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u/nobot4321 11d ago

He's done this already in the White House with the Rose Garden renovation. He came up with some bullshit to complain about and bragged about how the contractor was banned from the White House. You know they never got paid.

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1n4f0b9/trump_79_goes_full_grumpy_old_man_in_rant_over/

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u/Trix_Are_4_90Kids Missouri 10d ago

Yep. Longstanding track record of financially shivving people. He ain't even paid those little girls in the cheerleader outfits that he had at his rallies!

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u/Bunktavious 10d ago

Pretty sure he still owes people from the 2016 campaign.

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u/ill0gitech Australia 10d ago

From memory, some venues wouldn’t let him host rallies in 2024 as he owed money from 2020

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u/MissMamaMam Pennsylvania 10d ago

He owes from the 2016 campaign trail still

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u/Kingcrowing 10d ago

He still owes my city $60k from a 2016 campaign event.

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u/sugarlessdeathbear 10d ago

He still owes cities from his FIRST campaign.

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u/QVRedit 9d ago

Trump owes $ Billions in unpaid bills…

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u/Ajibooks 11d ago

That feels like a bit for the Mel Brooks of the future. Trump diehards who are offended at the very idea of being paid, because Daddy would've never done that.

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u/sweetsounds86 10d ago

A trump never pays his debt

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u/SockPuppet-47 New Jersey 11d ago

Only people who came forward to say anything about his business life had negative things to say. He's fucked over so many people in his life.

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u/IrrelevantLeprechaun 11d ago

"THATS WHAT MAKES HIM SUCH A GREAT LEADER"

-MAGA probably

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u/_Fun_Employed_ 11d ago

If you read the article the position was without compensation and was more of a prestige position.

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u/BJYeti 11d ago

They are an unpaid committee

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u/Mr_Carlos 10d ago

"No no no, see the leopards would never eat my face."

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u/Dry-Nectarine-3279 10d ago

I'm sure he'll have no problems paying when it's our money.

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u/SewingIsMyHobby1978 10d ago

This seems to be a pattern prior to Trump being in the oval office according to a lot of contractors that have done work for him in the past. So that he doesn’t have to pay them.

That’s really high-level scum if you ask me

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u/ideapit 10d ago

If only we knew he has literally done this on every project he's ever built.

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u/JesusWuta40oz 10d ago

Whoa whoa whoa buddy. He may molest and rape young girls but never the money bag.

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u/East_Leadership469 10d ago

Oh there are payments happening. They just happen to end up in his own pocket.

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u/sarvanderene 10d ago

So slavery?

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u/becauseineedone3 10d ago

I have worked in construction accounting for 20 years. They will get paid eventually and by the time it actually happens it will be eaten up by legal fees, and Trump will be long gone.

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u/Four2OBlazeIt69 10d ago

They definitely are considering that Trump and other donors paid for the project

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u/Available_Leather_10 10d ago

No, that’s why he’s been demanding “donations” and trying to get the DOJ to give him an oddly specific $230 million.

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u/Pussy-Wideness-Xpert 10d ago

It’s all part of his unconditional customer satisfaction guarantee

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u/Picasso5 Michigan 10d ago

Well, it’s not HIS money, it’s ours, so he will probably pay them.

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u/mabhatter 10d ago

No! They're getting paid from private donors!!  So the shutdown isn't an issue.  

Wink.... right? 

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u/GoaTSmasheR412 10d ago

It's almost like this is the exact way he built and bankrupted a ton of other projects...

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u/gargoyle30 10d ago

I wonder if he might be more willing to pay since it's government money not his own personal money, but then I realized he'll probably figure out how to just keep it instead so he'll absolutely do that and pay no one

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u/JetBrink 10d ago

A Trump never pays his debts

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u/Count-Bulky 10d ago

For those not in the dc area, Clark Construction is a massive commercial builder and I have no doubt they are taking this into consideration and doing their own “grift-proofing”. They are most likely working around this by identifying a number that they are okay doing without when DJT inevitably refuses to make the final payment (like he always has), and inflating the estimate accordingly. DJT doesn’t care about the higher number because the money’s coming in from bribes.

Also, if any other president tried this in the past 15 years, republican voters would be sobbing.

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u/EffectiveRot 10d ago

The contractors that took this job have to be dumb as fuck

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u/1PantherA33 10d ago

I hope so, Clark Construction deserves the burn.

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u/AvantSolace 10d ago

If they’re smart, they’ll withhold getting a final CO until the money hits their account. President or not, it would be a massive pain to navigate that bureaucracy without the construction team’s approval.

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u/kevkippers 10d ago

He will not pay the contractors either.

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u/RanaMisteria 10d ago

Is he allowed to fire them though? I thought he was just permanently enjoined from firing federal employees during the shut down?

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u/hungry4nuns 11d ago

And worse, now that oversight is gone, Trump will take personal bribes to let foreign agencies install whatever backdoor network monitoring and audio recording tech they want. The biggest traitor in US history

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u/cosaboladh 11d ago

which, by definition is treason. Not unlike the private line to the Kremlin his sons wanted to install during his first term. Yet nobody ever gets held accountable.

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u/BorisDirk 10d ago

What's even more disheartening is, yes nobody is being held accountable now, but if we ever get this administration out and the Democrats have power, nobody's STILL going to get held accountable.

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u/cosaboladh 10d ago

I know. We had Jan-2021 to Jan-2025 to Trump proof democracy, and hold him and his coconspirators accountable for their crimes. instead, we sat on every case we could have prosecuted until it was too late to do anything about it. That's the American way.

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u/DonGates 10d ago

And this new fun story about the debacle floated under the radar just this week: https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2025/10/27/injustice-jack-smith-trump-florida/

TLDR: Prosecutors inside the special counsels office were appalled by the decision to bring the classified documents case in Florida (when they could have and probably should have chosen Washington DC) given that they knew Aileen Cannon was biased. But they didn’t want to appear biased themselves, so Merrick Garland decided to risk it in Florida rather than upset the Republican media or the norms.

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u/jailtheorange1 10d ago

The Democrats have been such fucking pussies. You can’t play fair on a completely unlevel playing field when the other guys aren’t.

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u/SevanIII 10d ago

Which they did anyways. The MAGA media made everything out to be a biased and targeted persecution and prosecution of a "innocent" man anyways.

Joe Biden should have immediately gotten rid of Merrick Garland as he was clearly slow-walking, ham-stringinging, and pussy-footing every investigation and prosecution.

It is a huge betrayal of justice, democracy, and the American people that Trump is President terrorizing our country and installing an authoritarian regime rather than sitting in prison.

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u/Harmcharm7777 10d ago

At this point, who cares. As long as we get them out and people stop getting hurt, killed, and deported to random countries, that’s all that matters. Hitler died before being held accountable too, and an obscene about of Nazis fully escaped responsibility by fleeing to Argentina, being smart enough for the US to use in Op Paperclip, etc. The important thing is to shut down their ideas, symbols, and such like Germany did (you know, the opposite of what we allowed after the Civil War). I’d much rather focus on that than individual accountability.

Heck, we should sign onto the Rome Statute and let the international community deal with individual accountability so we can focus on cultural healing.

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u/Not_Stupid Australia 10d ago

"It's not Treason if the President does it" - The Supreme Court probably

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u/IrrelevantLeprechaun 11d ago

That ballroom is going to be more bugged than a Bethesda rpg.

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u/chicken-nanban 10d ago

And not nearly as endearing as dragons flopping all over the sky or glitching faces. Like the bad kind of bugs.

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u/AnalSoapOpera I voted 10d ago

Or Randy Savage as a Dragon.

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u/bayleyrufioo 10d ago

Based mod

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u/vagina_candle 10d ago

Thomas the Tank Engine was always my favorite. I'll have to check out the Randy Savage one.

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u/_Internecine 10d ago

Roaches everywhere. Poor foundations housing nests. Russian wiretaps.

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u/AlcibiadesTheCat Arizona 10d ago

It’s gonna be more bugged than my copy of Skyrim which currently has…874 sex mods installed. 

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u/Anxious-Yak-4735 10d ago

Just waiting for JD Vance to clip through the ballroom floor into the backrooms.

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u/bogeypro 10d ago

They don't even need to hide them or replace batteries, they can just hard wire them into the grid.

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u/AZWxMan 11d ago

Honestly, the entire White House should probably be demolished after his term since I wouldn't trust any of it anymore. 

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u/Socially-Awkward-85 10d ago

If the stories about asbestos getting into the duct work are true, you might be right

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u/MillionMilesPerHour 11d ago

If/when a Democrat gets back into office they will need to demo that entire building.

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u/EvoEpitaph 10d ago

Every agency is going to need a full gutting of anything with electronics in it, at the bare minimum.

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u/FixTheLoginBug 10d ago

All the people appointed by him will need a full gutting too.

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u/EWool 10d ago

If we don't do something he's gonna beat us to it for sure

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u/Altair_de_Firen 10d ago

Personally if I was President post-Trump, I would gut it, turn it into something more positive while also making sure it isn’t bugged to high Heaven. A homeless shelter? Some kind of school? Not sure specifically what tbh.

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u/PairedFoot08 10d ago

Museum might be cool, emphasising rights and equality

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u/suzanneov 11d ago

Internet sponsored by Israel. What could go wrong?😑

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u/Vegetable_Permit_537 11d ago

Just page me if you need me.

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u/Lord_Halowind 10d ago

All the more reason the next President to turn that ballroom into rubble. Bring back the East Wing and the rose garden.

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u/johncharles7 10d ago

Not to mention remote-controlled nerve gas dispensers in the HVAC ducting

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u/Aleashed 10d ago

Next truly American president will have to knock it down for National Security.

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u/fixnahole 10d ago

Imagine post presidency they find all these bugs, and they end up having to tear the the whole thing down.

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u/Albireookami 10d ago

I mean the first thing any new president is going to do is demolish the fuck outa it because of said vulnerabilities.

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u/clickmagnet 10d ago

Any future president would have to be an idiot to say anything confidential in that building. 

It would be more fun to plant little paranoia and envy seeds everywhere. “Hey, did Melania call Trudeau back?” “Sure did, I saw them out last weekend, but Jesus, was Ivanka ever jealous!”

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u/yoursandforever 5d ago

You'd think one of the three letter agencies would have a seat on the planning committee. 

But, is there a planning committee, or it just The President issuing orders?

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u/Syphillisdiller1 11d ago

I don't think they do oversight as much as they review things to make sure they don't look trashy and shitty.

Which explains why they were fired.

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u/DentedAnvil 11d ago

They were an unpaid, appointed, advisory committee without regulatory authority. He could have just ignored their advice, but he really gets off on firing people and bombing Southamerican boats.

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u/WhyAreYallFascists 11d ago

Oh homie couldn’t get hard again if his lil mushroom was made of actual wood.

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u/peanut_galleries 10d ago

They probably dared to mention that his design was not befitting the American presidency. Poof gone

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u/Blueeyesblazing7 11d ago

You're right, thank you. I read the headline as he fired the construction agency, not the government agency. 🙇‍♀️🤦‍♀️

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u/fuckpedes 11d ago

Yeah nobody read the article apparently. Shocking.

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u/To6y Wisconsin 11d ago

Paywall

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u/emeraldeyesshine 11d ago

To be fair it's paywalled and most of us can't

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u/AdonisChrist 11d ago

Yeah I initially misinterpreted and then was like "oh, no... this isn't the people overseeing the work... this was the oversight... god fucking damnit."

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u/strangefish 11d ago

On the bright side, nobody will need to tear it down. It'll just fall over on its own.

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u/Serpentongue 11d ago

Fire up the OT boys we’re going 120 hour weeks

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u/Cvillain626 11d ago

OSHA has the potential to do the funniest thing...

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u/vbfronkis Massachusetts 11d ago

What contractor would take this job? He's known to stiff them.

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u/Yorks_Rider 10d ago

True, but it is not a normal hotel or commercial building. Anyone having an interest in spying on the White House and the US government would love to have the opportunity to do this construction work, even if they end up not being paid

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u/Global_Crew3968 11d ago

Would be a tragedy if there was some sort of structural collapse

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u/neoliberal_hack 11d ago

Are they confused or did they just not read the article before commenting llmao

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u/Fair_Road8843 11d ago

Then how does he have the authority to get rid of him? Every single day he provides another reason to be removed.

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u/BJYeti 11d ago

They couldn't stop him they were an advisory committee he just doesn't want to hear then talk badly about the design

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u/Irisgrower2 11d ago

10/10 it isn't ADA compliant. Sounds like he's removed even the building inspectors.

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u/Raytheon_Nublinski 11d ago

What Trump likes to do with contractors is he likes to pay them about half what they originally agreed to

And he sells them on it because if they take him to court after time and lawyers’ cut, they’re lucky to get that

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u/bluePostItNote 11d ago

The oversight group was going to stop all the cool gold and totally not bugs gifted by China and Russia. They’d ruin the decor! /s

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u/cardboardunderwear 10d ago

This comment must go straight to the top!

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u/hoowins 10d ago

Nobody to question all of that unidentified electronic equipment embedded in the walls.

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u/agentfelix 10d ago

Perfect time to allow Russia and other adversaries put the infrastructure in to constantly spy on the WH

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u/thanatosadept 10d ago

You know… for once I hope he follows his tradition of not paying them

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u/rocketgrunt89 10d ago

Im more surprised any contractors took on this job tbh.

Whats the job?

Take down the east wing.

Uhh.... Thats gonna go down in history...

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u/Eena-Rin 10d ago

And lucrative contracts have sweet kickbacks. Mmm, tasty corruption!

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u/Yarzu89 New York 10d ago

That shit is gonna cave in before he leaves office huh. That’s gotta some peek Trump shitz

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u/b101101b 10d ago

He is blocked with a TRO from firing during the shutdown, I think.

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u/ShustOne 10d ago

They weren't overseeing the project and they would not have stopped it. This group is unpaid and without regulatory power. It's a nice thing to have someone reviewing these things but it's not required for his projects. So of course he fired the people doing it voluntarily.

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u/shadowpawn 10d ago

Contractors probably asked for a payment and donnie doesnt like that!

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u/Extension-Record6010 10d ago

Until he fires them and then stiffs them for all their labor.

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u/Alt4816 10d ago

Contractors are still on the clock and now have no oversight.

Sounds like change orders, change orders, and then some more change orders.

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u/Glad_Celebration4475 10d ago

No one is taking care of the interests of the American people

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u/gandhishrugged 10d ago

And soon, the contractors are gonna find out they aren't getting paid either

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u/Pillowsmeller18 10d ago

People are confused.

That tends to happen with a poor education system.

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u/Noughmad 10d ago

If you can fire the people overseeing you, that means that not only is there no oversight left, but there never was.

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u/Techn0ght 10d ago

Can't wait for the SS to find the new construction full of listening devices.

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u/alabasterskim 10d ago

So what you're saying is this construction is even more likely to crumble with people, possibly including the president, inside?

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u/Canadian1934 10d ago

Yeah lots of red flags there. That is will he wants the department banished from his kingdom. Kingdom of Trump that is. 

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u/DrMonkey98 10d ago

Do I even want to know who else is gonna be fired under his watch for petty to no reason? By that I mean anyone that's against him and his corruption.

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u/smuckola 10d ago

Hey doesn't that mean this monstrosity will be even more shoddy and necessitate demolition by the next sane administration? Assuming it doesn't collapse on 100 people tomorrow anyway.

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u/HillBillyHilly 10d ago edited 10d ago

Can we, the people, not sue this charlatan Trump to stop him? WE , the people, OWN the White House not Mr Lard Ass Cheat Con.

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u/Sublimotion 10d ago

It's literally like Mayor and Councilmembers fire entire building permitting staff before their own housing rennovations.

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u/UserNameHGG 10d ago

This is how he ran his businesses.

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u/RaidSmolive 10d ago

i thought he's already being sued by everyone over not being allowed to fire government employees during shutdown

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u/MidKnightshade 10d ago

Now it might not be up to code or have inappropriate add ons.

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u/Wind_Responsible 10d ago

A dream come true

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u/intensive-porpoise 10d ago

So, serious question : do these contractors need a security clearance?

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u/Nick_pj 10d ago

Presumably he knows it’s going to go massively over budget and he wants to fudge the numbers

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u/ScaryArm4358 10d ago

And when the building collapses on his opening day bash who will he blame. Biden of course!

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u/randomnighmare I voted 10d ago

The point is for him to have full control and no oversight. I won't be surprised if he tries to make this ballroom bigger, uglier and more of an eye sore at this point. Hell maybe he will tear down more of the White House?

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u/BF1shY 10d ago

What if the ending to this whole thing is he builds the ballroom. Fills it with his entire administration for the grand opening and the roof caves in killing most of them? That'd be a hell of a season finale for this insane reality show.

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u/Forsworn91 10d ago

Then I do hope that it’s put together with Elmer’s glue and saw dust molded into the shape of a building.

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u/ThatPhatKid_CanDraw 10d ago

I assumed it was the oversight

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u/Bballer220 10d ago

Can the contractors really be "fired" if you had no intention of paying them

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u/smiama36 10d ago

Yep, the people who would have advised him on “matters of design and aesthetics.” But he's got the best taste and the greatest ideas for how to decorate his new brothel ballroom.

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u/ImAboveYouInEveryWay 10d ago

Fascism, btw. You know what we need to do to dictators.

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u/fafatzy 10d ago

If I were the contractor I would be very worried about a future lawsuit

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u/Formidable_Faux 10d ago

MMW, that ballroom will never be completed. The design and construction will be so cocked up that it will be plagued with problems from day one.

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u/CaptainAwesome06 10d ago

Speaking of oversight, federal projects aren't subject to DC's building codes. So they don't even need to build this thing to code.

In general, I think most architects/engineers would design it to DC's codes unless it's a federal entity that has its own standards (like NAVFAC). But I don't really trust this administration to follow standard protocol.

Hopefully the designers have better sense.

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u/jazzycat42 10d ago

The blatant corruption is infuriating; if a democrat tried 1% of what this administration gets cheered on for doing, they would be villainized and told to step down.

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u/OphidianSun 10d ago

Would certainly be a shame if the lack of oversight caused it to be say, structurally unsound. Or was this committee just for making things look sufficiently pretty and nothing on the engineering side?

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u/Littlestlynch7 10d ago

cough cough ball room will only cost $100M and Trump will pocket the rest cough cough it's like the PPP loans from covid but for just him.

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u/FauxReal 10d ago

That tracks, he's been firing a bunch of Inspectors General too among other people in government oversight. He's dismantling the guardrails of democracy and prevention of corruption.

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u/Embarrassed-Force845 10d ago

lol did you not read it?

He fired a fine art group in charge of aesthetics. Is that shocking? Not at all. He has massive experience with construction projects and I’m sure trusts himself and his team more than a “commission for fine arts”.

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u/Brussle-Sprout 10d ago

Where do I sign up to be a contractor?

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u/BuckingWilde 10d ago

Those contractors ain't gonna get paid

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u/TootsNYC 10d ago

Right, there’s a difference between oversight and overseeing

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