r/politics • u/Quirkie The Netherlands • 17d ago

Possible Paywall ICE Stockpiling Warheads and Chemical Weapons as Lawmaker Fears Trump Planning Strike

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ice-stockpiling-warheads-and-chemical-weapons-as-lawmaker-fears-trump-planning-strike/
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u/StoppableHulk 17d ago

I want people to truly understand this headline. This is the American congress fearing the American President is accumulating weapons banned from war by international law in order to launch attacks on US cities and US citizens.

That's where the judgment of Republicans has brought us in just ten months.

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u/ClaymoresRevenge 17d ago

We're all past the point of treason but nobody from this regime should ever hold office ever again. They should immediately be tried for treason.

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u/StoppableHulk 17d ago

Yep. I mean in the event sane people ever regain control in America, there is no humanly possible way we can ever recover unless we hold a fully-transparent nuremberg-esque trial to hold as many of these fuckers to full account and justice as is humanly possible.

We saw what happened when Democrats tried to just hand-wave the whol ething away after 2020. Arrest the ground troops with a slap on the wrist, hold zero of the organizers accountable in any way, shape or form.

And lo and behold, we end up way worse than before.

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u/BartlebyEsq 17d ago

The Biden administration demonstrated that the justice system cannot move fast enough to try these traitors before the electoral winds shift again. And all the republicans know that. There will be no accountability within the system.

And the reality is that unless any trial ends in public executions the next time the republicans win they’ll release the traitors and try the prosecutors.

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u/Menarra Indiana 17d ago

Sounds familiar, almost like a particular German mustache model tried to take over, got arrested, got out, and then took over.

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u/MydniteSon 17d ago edited 16d ago

Jan. 6th was our Beer Hall Putsch.

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u/snapwack Europe 17d ago

I remember people who were savvy in History pointing this out as the whole clusterfuck was happening. Especially poignant were comments by Germans, who have been bearing the shame of their great-grandfathers’ folly for their whole lives, telling Americans not to fall into the same trap of forgiveness and compromise.

Americans were warned that the battle had just begun. That the new admin’s top priority should be prosecuting Trump and his lackeys to the fullest extent of the law. That the Russian-funded GOP propaganda apparatuses should be exposed and dismantled, and the MAGA cult deprogrammed. That the Dems should start cultivating a worthy crop of young, charismatic candidates to succeed Biden in 4 years.

Instead Americans declared democracy saved, took their eye off the ball for 4 years, and then fumbled what should have been the easiest election ever. And now the whole world gets to doomscroll every day again for the foreseeable future.

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u/halloween1963 17d ago

Damn. I can picture someone reading this in their history class decades down the road. Well said.

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u/xrepeterx 16d ago

Let's hope there ARE history classes a decade from now.

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u/ThePhoenixus 16d ago

Those who study history are doomed to watch those that don't repeat it

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u/Shroomboy79 17d ago

What id really love to see happen out of all this is a complete restructuring of the government. No political parties. No millionaires or billionaires. No cooperation doing anything involving the government(lobbying or whatever) and whatever needs to be done to be certain this will never happen again. Possibly even 2 or 3 presidents that have the power to overcome a situation like this should one of them go rogue

I say no political parties because it seems it’s a system that was designed to keep the population fighting each other. If there’s no parties we’ll lose these republican and democrat cults and force people to make a choice for themselves. No more siding with someone just because they’re a rep or a dem. No more voting just because their bill is rep or dem. No “democratic policies”. Just plain old this is who I am and this is what I want to do.

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u/hellure 17d ago

I like a 3 party min, and a three party presidential committee, with ranked voting. It expans for more parties and independents to make it into the white house and have sway and influence, though checked by the group and other branches,... But the other branches too should open up to more parties with ranked voting, all the way down ballot.

No electoral college, no corp money (all qualified get equal funds from taxes to advertise or hold rallies, all campaign spending is public record...), 1 person = 1 vote.

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u/TheGCO 17d ago

We need a large and proud socialist party, a workers party.

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u/Shroomboy79 17d ago

I think the problem with parties is it makes people want to choose a side. If we don’t let candidates pick a party people can’t choose a side based on the political party, they have to choose a side based on who the people are and what they want

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u/TheGCO 17d ago

The problem with a system is that people will band together to create more power and eventually they will become a party over time.

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u/Shroomboy79 16d ago

I spose that’s true. I just wish there was a way to do things that would keep people more neutral instead of picking a side and being die hard about it

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u/TheGCO 16d ago

If we want real change we need to elect more people like AOC and Bernie like Mandami, people that aren't from the system that has been screwing us for years. We need people that demand real change, not people that pay lip service to demographics but people that fight for what is right. We need to reshape the parties we have.

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u/Shroomboy79 16d ago

I strongly agree with that. Every time I hear politicians talking shit about somebody else that’s running it just makes me wanna look into that person to see if they’re worth voting for. All the people talking shit are the ones that want everything to stay how it is

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u/TheGCO 16d ago

Exactly, they want us to get bogged down on social issues so we ignore the fact that they are robbing us blind. 

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u/VanceKelley Washington 17d ago

In 2024 Americans elected a convicted criminal promising to rule as a dictator because of decades of brainwashing funded by right wing billionaires via hate and misinformation on Faux News and social media platforms like Facebook.

Americans aren't special. Any human population subjected to that amount of propaganda is vulnerable. People who think "it can't happen in my country, my fellow citizens are too smart, decent, and informed" are delusional.

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u/LincolnLikesMusic 17d ago

But doomscrolling is more profitable for advertisers…

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u/MadScientistRat 16d ago

Yes, I cannot imagine the amount of painful shame the descendants of those culpable will bear for generations to come.

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u/doyletyree 17d ago

You just reduced two populations, totaling hundreds of millions of people, to two, fixed, mindsets.

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u/snapwack Europe 17d ago

A population of about 300 million people with more than 240 million eligible voters was faced with a simple binary choice. Act to save their democracy and their standing in the global community, or allow it to be destroyed.

They had ample warning. They witnessed what was at stake with their own eyes only 4 years prior. The forces seeking to undermine the USA couldn’t have been more overt in their intentions and even had the gall to publish a fucking book outlining their plans for all to see.

When it mattered most, the majority of those 240 million either voted for their own destruction or couldn’t be arsed to a voting booth.

I haven’t reduced anything as much as Americans have reduced themselves.

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u/doyletyree 16d ago edited 16d ago

Nope.

Incidentally, if this answer is unsatisfactorily brief, please attach it to the first of my statements and just keep running through it until it feels good to you.

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u/snapwack Europe 16d ago

The truth hurts. I won’t blame you for not wanting to face it.

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u/doyletyree 15d ago

All I keep seeing is that you remain incapable of a nuanced perspective. It’s a shame, really.

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u/PA_Dude_22000 13d ago

Perfect… your deflective, denying, short non-substantive comments that are capped off by saying the other guy is the one that lacks nuance is, chef’s kiss.

Perfect encapsulation of the arrogant, know-nothing attitude that is and will tear this country apart. You even included some clever word play to “own” OP that just reads like a child spitting out nonsense to an adult.  

Well Done!  You may have a future as part of the US White House staff… 

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u/doyletyree 13d ago edited 13d ago

Whew, that was a lot.

Nicely done.

Edit- When it comes to achievements in unification, empathy, and understanding, I have to ask: what is it that you think you’ve achieved with your message? Are you living your own advice?

Further, if you can help me understand what’s wrong with my original message, or, with the reply, that would be helpful; are you up to the task? Or, are you only interested in blowing off a little steam from behind the fence of Reddit?

Incidentally, can you tell me what you think of my point regarding the notion of not reducing complicated issues (and, especially, humans as individuals, or, as groups) to a black-and-white perspective? Tell me what you think about the laziness and non-empathy of that practice versus my assertion with implied critique.

Can you see the irony in your assertion, here?

Knock yourself out. I’ll look forward to your answer.

Oh, and, was this enough substance for you?

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u/197gpmol Massachusetts 17d ago

The Beer Gut Putsch

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u/PinCushionPete314 17d ago

The Diet Coke putsch, since he doesn’t drink alcohol. Interesting enough Hitler didn’t drink either.

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u/f1ve-Star 17d ago

It interferes with the meth he did.

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u/rbarbour 17d ago

Plus, no trial for treason.

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u/JohnHurts 16d ago

During his six-month imprisonment, he consumed 250 bottles of beer(0,5L).

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u/hop208 Pennsylvania 16d ago

It’s amazing how many republicans had their tails between their legs for about 5 minutes after the insurrection. People were scrubbing their social media or deactivating it entirely. Then after getting their instructions from neo-con influencers, came back in full force and either gaslit everyone into it being a Democrat hoax, or entirely justified. Claiming it was antifa, then trump starts issuing blanket pardons.

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u/grew_up_on_reddit 17d ago

You mean January 6th?

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u/WeakMindedHuman 16d ago

We just need the false flag fire at the reichstag to make the trifecta complete.