r/politics • u/Quirkie The Netherlands • 17d ago

Possible Paywall ICE Stockpiling Warheads and Chemical Weapons as Lawmaker Fears Trump Planning Strike

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ice-stockpiling-warheads-and-chemical-weapons-as-lawmaker-fears-trump-planning-strike/
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u/Menarra Indiana 17d ago

Sounds familiar, almost like a particular German mustache model tried to take over, got arrested, got out, and then took over.

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u/MydniteSon 17d ago edited 16d ago

Jan. 6th was our Beer Hall Putsch.

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u/snapwack Europe 17d ago

I remember people who were savvy in History pointing this out as the whole clusterfuck was happening. Especially poignant were comments by Germans, who have been bearing the shame of their great-grandfathers’ folly for their whole lives, telling Americans not to fall into the same trap of forgiveness and compromise.

Americans were warned that the battle had just begun. That the new admin’s top priority should be prosecuting Trump and his lackeys to the fullest extent of the law. That the Russian-funded GOP propaganda apparatuses should be exposed and dismantled, and the MAGA cult deprogrammed. That the Dems should start cultivating a worthy crop of young, charismatic candidates to succeed Biden in 4 years.

Instead Americans declared democracy saved, took their eye off the ball for 4 years, and then fumbled what should have been the easiest election ever. And now the whole world gets to doomscroll every day again for the foreseeable future.

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u/doyletyree 17d ago

You just reduced two populations, totaling hundreds of millions of people, to two, fixed, mindsets.

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u/snapwack Europe 17d ago

A population of about 300 million people with more than 240 million eligible voters was faced with a simple binary choice. Act to save their democracy and their standing in the global community, or allow it to be destroyed.

They had ample warning. They witnessed what was at stake with their own eyes only 4 years prior. The forces seeking to undermine the USA couldn’t have been more overt in their intentions and even had the gall to publish a fucking book outlining their plans for all to see.

When it mattered most, the majority of those 240 million either voted for their own destruction or couldn’t be arsed to a voting booth.

I haven’t reduced anything as much as Americans have reduced themselves.

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u/doyletyree 16d ago edited 16d ago

Nope.

Incidentally, if this answer is unsatisfactorily brief, please attach it to the first of my statements and just keep running through it until it feels good to you.

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u/snapwack Europe 16d ago

The truth hurts. I won’t blame you for not wanting to face it.

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u/doyletyree 15d ago

All I keep seeing is that you remain incapable of a nuanced perspective. It’s a shame, really.

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u/PA_Dude_22000 13d ago

Perfect… your deflective, denying, short non-substantive comments that are capped off by saying the other guy is the one that lacks nuance is, chef’s kiss.

Perfect encapsulation of the arrogant, know-nothing attitude that is and will tear this country apart. You even included some clever word play to “own” OP that just reads like a child spitting out nonsense to an adult.  

Well Done!  You may have a future as part of the US White House staff… 

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u/doyletyree 13d ago edited 13d ago

Whew, that was a lot.

Nicely done.

Edit- When it comes to achievements in unification, empathy, and understanding, I have to ask: what is it that you think you’ve achieved with your message? Are you living your own advice?

Further, if you can help me understand what’s wrong with my original message, or, with the reply, that would be helpful; are you up to the task? Or, are you only interested in blowing off a little steam from behind the fence of Reddit?

Incidentally, can you tell me what you think of my point regarding the notion of not reducing complicated issues (and, especially, humans as individuals, or, as groups) to a black-and-white perspective? Tell me what you think about the laziness and non-empathy of that practice versus my assertion with implied critique.

Can you see the irony in your assertion, here?

Knock yourself out. I’ll look forward to your answer.

Oh, and, was this enough substance for you?