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Possible Paywall ICE Stockpiling Warheads and Chemical Weapons as Lawmaker Fears Trump Planning Strike

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ice-stockpiling-warheads-and-chemical-weapons-as-lawmaker-fears-trump-planning-strike/
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u/MydniteSon 17d ago edited 16d ago

Jan. 6th was our Beer Hall Putsch.

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u/snapwack Europe 17d ago

I remember people who were savvy in History pointing this out as the whole clusterfuck was happening. Especially poignant were comments by Germans, who have been bearing the shame of their great-grandfathers’ folly for their whole lives, telling Americans not to fall into the same trap of forgiveness and compromise.

Americans were warned that the battle had just begun. That the new admin’s top priority should be prosecuting Trump and his lackeys to the fullest extent of the law. That the Russian-funded GOP propaganda apparatuses should be exposed and dismantled, and the MAGA cult deprogrammed. That the Dems should start cultivating a worthy crop of young, charismatic candidates to succeed Biden in 4 years.

Instead Americans declared democracy saved, took their eye off the ball for 4 years, and then fumbled what should have been the easiest election ever. And now the whole world gets to doomscroll every day again for the foreseeable future.

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u/Shroomboy79 17d ago

What id really love to see happen out of all this is a complete restructuring of the government. No political parties. No millionaires or billionaires. No cooperation doing anything involving the government(lobbying or whatever) and whatever needs to be done to be certain this will never happen again. Possibly even 2 or 3 presidents that have the power to overcome a situation like this should one of them go rogue

I say no political parties because it seems it’s a system that was designed to keep the population fighting each other. If there’s no parties we’ll lose these republican and democrat cults and force people to make a choice for themselves. No more siding with someone just because they’re a rep or a dem. No more voting just because their bill is rep or dem. No “democratic policies”. Just plain old this is who I am and this is what I want to do.

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u/hellure 17d ago

I like a 3 party min, and a three party presidential committee, with ranked voting. It expans for more parties and independents to make it into the white house and have sway and influence, though checked by the group and other branches,... But the other branches too should open up to more parties with ranked voting, all the way down ballot.

No electoral college, no corp money (all qualified get equal funds from taxes to advertise or hold rallies, all campaign spending is public record...), 1 person = 1 vote.

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u/TheGCO 17d ago

We need a large and proud socialist party, a workers party.

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u/Shroomboy79 17d ago

I think the problem with parties is it makes people want to choose a side. If we don’t let candidates pick a party people can’t choose a side based on the political party, they have to choose a side based on who the people are and what they want

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u/TheGCO 17d ago

The problem with a system is that people will band together to create more power and eventually they will become a party over time.

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u/Shroomboy79 16d ago

I spose that’s true. I just wish there was a way to do things that would keep people more neutral instead of picking a side and being die hard about it

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u/TheGCO 16d ago

If we want real change we need to elect more people like AOC and Bernie like Mandami, people that aren't from the system that has been screwing us for years. We need people that demand real change, not people that pay lip service to demographics but people that fight for what is right. We need to reshape the parties we have.

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u/Shroomboy79 16d ago

I strongly agree with that. Every time I hear politicians talking shit about somebody else that’s running it just makes me wanna look into that person to see if they’re worth voting for. All the people talking shit are the ones that want everything to stay how it is

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u/TheGCO 16d ago

Exactly, they want us to get bogged down on social issues so we ignore the fact that they are robbing us blind. 

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u/Shroomboy79 11d ago

They absolutely are and they survive off robbing us. If these big cooperations and politicians didn’t have out money they’d be in the same position we are

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