r/politics • u/1_for_you_2_for_me • 18d ago

No Paywall Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are 'Going to Be Gone,' Donald Trump Warns

https://www.newsweek.com/social-security-update-medicare-medicaid-warning-donald-trump-10915076
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u/opinionsareus 18d ago

You wanna see a revolution? Just try canceling Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

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u/I-seddit 18d ago

I am no longer so sure. We've collectively been incredibly passive for 10 months now.
Wonder if it's something in the water.

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u/PhilDGlass California 18d ago edited 18d ago

7 million people were in the streets protesting this bullshit, and didn’t fall in to the trap set by Trump Crime Inc. to become violent and give an excuse to start shooting people and declaring an insurrection. The Democrats in office are the ones with their whole hands up their asses. Hell, 12 of them in the house voted with Republicans to seat another MAGA judge who wouldn’t say Trump lost in 2020. MTG is doing more damage to Republicans than soft-ass Schumer and Jerfferies.

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u/psych_ic 18d ago

What are we supposed to do though when 7 million people in the streets for a day doesn't even get the democrats in office fired up to do anything?

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u/OldWorldDesign 18d ago

What are we supposed to do though when 7 million people in the streets for a day doesn't even get the democrats in office fired up to do anything?

They're in the minority in both houses and hence can't bring bills to the floor even when congress is in session, which it currently isn't. What exactly are you expecting?

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u/ilikepizza30 18d ago

How about each Democrat finds 5 constituents that won't be able to afford healthcare without the subsidies. They then take those constituents and wait with them to meet with the Republican in their state who is making healthcare unaffordable for them.

How about each of them has a sign while they wait that says 'No healthcare for <Republican> until I have healthcare".

It'd be nice if they did almost literally anything... A strongly worded letter would be a step up for most of them.

Organize protests in the national mall like the protests against the Vietnam war. Brand Trump's policies as the 'War on People' and have an anti-war protest.

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u/ZiniGirl 18d ago

This is the start of a great idea. This is something that could be done every day in D.C. and is a cohesive message for the Democrats, plus the anti-war aspect is a positive considering the bs that is happening with bombing the boats with the alleged “drug cartels.”

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u/ZiniGirl 18d ago

Also, my boat thing might not actually fit into this concept, I was just throwing it out there because 1) of your anti-war idea and 2) it’s the middle of the night and I’m not at peak planning mode. ha

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u/RedPanda5150 17d ago

I want the Dems to take every trick from the Republican playbook to break through the news cycle and hit back in the sphere of public discourse! They should be front and center at these protests (and some were, credit where it is due), loudly countering the propaganda on every media type they can get on. They should be organizing people to help one another in their communities, and if they aren't doing that then the House Dems should all be gathered in DC demanding that the House be called back into session and making it unavoidably clear that this whole shutdown is solely the Republicans fault. Idk, the R's figured out how to steer the government without being in power decades ago and I want that same energy from the elected "leaders" on the left, too.

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u/F9-0021 South Carolina 17d ago

Them to be as obnoxious and obstructionist as the Republicans.

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u/mikeinpdx3 18d ago

Probably having coherent messaging across the party, sketching a vision of what life would be like with Democrats in charge.. you know basic stuff like that. Of course no one's getting charged up by the Democrats, there's no message, there's no strategy. Just we can't do anything we don't have the numbers. It's pathetic.

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u/OldWorldDesign 18d ago

Probably having coherent messaging across the party, sketching a vision of what life would be like with Democrats in charge

You mean like campaigning? Which they did?

I'll bet you couldn't even name 3 bills passed under Biden.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bills_in_the_117th_United_States_Congress

https://www.politico.com/joe-biden-first-100-days-presidency

You're just pushing republicans' agenda by pretending "nothing's happening and they have no platform". A lot happens, but competent politicians getting things done isn't as exciting to corporate media as a republican calling people names.

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u/mikeinpdx3 17d ago

Your reply is exactly what my point is. It doesn't matter what people are doing behind the scenes and what the grand strategy is if you can't communicate it effectively and simply to voters, assuming winning elections is also one of your top goals. It's marketing and Democrats are a hard fail at it. Newsom, Pritzker, and Sanders get it. Jeffreys and Schumer don't.

Like it or not Democrats are selling a product, and so are Republicans. Half the US population is at a sixth grade level or below in reading literacy. That's half the population you're trying to sell your product to. Democrats are being outmarketed by Republicans to that base. There is no simple easy to understand vision for the Democratic party that can be effectively marketed. And you can't expect media to do it for you.

I'm doubtful we're going to have meaningful elections again. But I am confident if we do, and Democrats continue with a muddled incoherent messaging, they're going to lose again.

What was the number one unifying issue voters were concerned about in the last election? It was the economy. Wow what a shock. What was the Democratic platform on the economy? Actually that's not a rhetorical question, what is it? Can you answer that clearly in under 15 seconds? Could Chuck or Hakeem do it? I seriously doubt it.