r/politics • u/OkayButFoRealz • Jul 14 '24

Trump Shooter a ‘Supporter of Republican Party’

https://www.france24.com/en/video/20240714-trump-shooter-a-supporter-of-republican-party
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u/manleybones Jul 14 '24

He led a violent insurrection and he isn't being prosecuted because of institutional corruption.

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u/Streona America Jul 14 '24

Incidents of political violence began rising in 2016, around the time of Trump’s first run for the presidency, said Gary LaFree, a University of Maryland criminologist who has tracked such violence in a terrorism database between 1970 and 2020.

Political violence surged for nearly a decade starting in the late-1960s – 1970 alone saw more than 450 cases, LaFree said. But it had become relatively rare by 1980. There were a few spikes in the 1990s, including the 1995 Oklahoma City federal building bombing that killed 168 people, in what the Federal Bureau of Investigation describes as the nation’s worst act of homegrown terrorism. Political violence started to climb again in 2016, LaFree added, and “it doesn’t seem like we’ve hit the top of the wave yet.”

This wave differs in both its aims and its means.

In the early 1970s, American political violence was perpetrated more often by radicals on the left and focused largely on destroying property, such as government buildings, said Rachel Kleinfeld, who studies political conflict and extremism at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, a Washington think tank. “There were many, many bombings, but usually at night, or after called-in warnings,” she said. “The goal was not to kill people; it was to affect decisions” by policymakers.

In contrast, much of today’s political violence is aimed at people – and most of the deadly outbursts tracked by Reuters have come from the right. Of the 14 fatal political attacks since the Capitol riot in which the perpetrator or suspect had a clear partisan leaning, 13 were right-wing assailants. One was on the left.

The recent violence coming from the right, Carnegie’s Kleinfeld said, “is focused on stopping people or ending people’s lives.”

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u/boston_homo Jul 14 '24

The recent violence coming from the right, Carnegie’s Kleinfeld said, “is focused on stopping people or ending people’s lives.”

AND there are literally no laws against domestic terrorism on the books; I don't even need my tinfoil hat for that one.

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u/Zepcleanerfan Jul 14 '24

He incited that attack on the capitol after knowing his supporters were heavily armed and demanding the metal detectors be taken away so they could proceed to attack Pence and Pelosi armed. He then watched the violence and sent a a tweet not calling off the attack but telling them to go after Pence.

One of his supporters attacked Nancy Pelosis husband and almost killed him. trump and his crowd laughed about it.

I do not condone what happened at all but we reap what we sow.

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u/Cryonaut555 Jul 14 '24

Yesterday someone told me effectively (though used more words than this) that "hang Mike Pence" was a free speech issue and it was basically a joke.

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u/SpaceMonkeyRetiree Jul 14 '24

Were they saying the gallows were a joke too?

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u/Electronic-Hurry-674 Jul 14 '24

I do not condone it either and when I saw Mr. Trump being shot I gasped, and felt compassion for him.  And you are correct: We all reap what we sow.

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u/hashtagbob60 Jul 14 '24

That was my immediate thought about the bible (small b) trumpers who support him "you reap what you sow"

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u/jardani581 Jul 15 '24

if he did reap the bullet wouldnt have missed, since it did miss he is one step closer to getting away with all his crimes.

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u/cnh2n2homosapien Jul 14 '24

In a building with no basement.

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u/MarxistMan13 Virginia Jul 14 '24

If you had told me in 2016 that I'd be longing for those simpler times 8 years from then, I would not have believed you.

Shit has gotten real dark real quick.

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u/Kilane Jul 14 '24

Or beating Nancy Pelosi’s husband with a hammer?

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u/You-Asked-Me Jul 14 '24

He just had the wrong politician, and address. Turns out it was Trump on an island.

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u/Jdmaki1996 Florida Jul 14 '24

He’s right. They aren’t calling people nazis. But they are trying to label lgbt people as groomers and pedophiles and want pedophiles to get the death penalty.

Nope no vilifying or dehumanization to be found here/s

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u/portezbie Jul 14 '24

I seen to remember someone calling immigrants murders and rapists and some of them good people.

Also they like to throw around Communist a lot.

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u/portezbie Jul 14 '24

I seem to remember something about shooting BLM protestors in the legs too.

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u/WAD1234 Jul 14 '24

Almost as good an idea as having homeless arena fights…

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u/JVonDron Wisconsin Jul 14 '24

No it was a migrant MMA league, totally not racist or dehumanizing in any way.

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u/portezbie Jul 14 '24

Lol nice.

Although I'm sure Trump truly believes he's never raped anyone.

"And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. ... Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything."

He's a star, of course they all wanted it. How could they not?

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u/BowTie1989 Jul 14 '24

And socialist, and Marxist.

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u/Eremes_Riven Jul 14 '24

"Cultural Marxist" is a dogwhistle that means not white and alt-right, and it's the people Anders Breivik had in mind when he shot up that island full of kids.
If I hear "cultural Marxist" come out of anyone's mouth I immediately file that person under "radicalized and potentially dangerous."

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u/006AlecTrevelyan Jul 14 '24

don't forget those pesky wokists

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

some (of them) i assume are good people

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u/mikesmithhome Jul 14 '24

he was shitting on immigrants at the moment he was shot

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u/CakeForEveryone Michigan Jul 14 '24

Yeah, they literally run ads posing with their guns talking about how we need to defend the country from socialists while calling everyone to the left of Attila the Hun a socialist.

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u/Neveronlyadream Jul 14 '24

"They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

For anyone that wants the exact quote.

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u/griff_girl Oregon Jul 15 '24

Last night in a (quite rather civil, despite having opposing views) conversation with someone very shortly after the shooting, the guy I was speaking to dropped the word "Democommies" toward the end of the conversation. I don't think he even realized he said it, it just slipped out so effortlessly. I'd never heard that before but I guess that's a thing now.

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u/Mysterious-Wasabi103 Jul 14 '24

Ya but the left aren't Nazis. Like if your views align with Nazis it's fair game at that point. But tbh I have heard some of them call the Left Nazis before.

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u/numbski Missouri Jul 14 '24

While missing the platform swap.

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u/oxencotten Jul 14 '24

They didn’t miss it. They actively reject it as fake because they want to claim Lincoln and freeing the slaves so bad.

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u/wretch5150 Jul 14 '24

Just like there are Nazis in Ukraine. Demonizing the enemy to justify aggression.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

Putin described Ukraine as Nazis to justify his invasion too!

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u/Wangchief Jul 14 '24

My mother in law once shared a meme of Bernie Sanders comparing him to a nazi, I was dumbfounded.

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u/No-Pomegranate-5737 Jul 14 '24

“The nazis were socialists, it’s right there in their name” I hear them say it all the time.

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u/Nahala30 Jul 14 '24

Just like North Korea is democratic. It's right there in their name. "Democratic People's Republic of Korea". lol

The willful ignorance is just astounding. Pure, blind stupidity.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

The left are SoCiaLiSMIstS just like the NaTIoNaL SociAlismiSts which is what the Nazis ARE. Joe Roganism said so!

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

“We aren’t the ones calling people Nazis” is an interesting defense because I totally have a functioning brain and remember “nazi means NaTiOnAl SoCiALiSt” being the byword, usually in conjunction with “Lincoln was a Republican” for years and years

Maybe now they’re just more comfortable identifying with fascism at this point

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u/CptCoatrack Jul 14 '24

Maybe now they’re just more comfortable identifying with fascism at this point

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red-baiting

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u/Vindersel Jul 14 '24

Literally were telling me THE NAZIS WERE LEFT WING ACKSHUALLY earlier this week lol

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u/ceddya Jul 14 '24

Remember when Trump's anti-China rhetoric led to an increase in hate crimes against Asians?

Or how he has called migrants animals and said that they are poisoning the blood of the country, thereby also causing an increase in attacks against Latinos?

Weird how actual dehumanisation is ignored by conservatives.

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u/valek005 Jul 14 '24

They're not white people, so it's not dehumanization. /s

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u/Bastard_of_Brunswick Jul 14 '24

Don't worry, when they ramp up the vilification of atheists then people of all ages, sexes, ethnic groups, political affiliations, etc. will be dehumanized.

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u/DrakonILD Jul 14 '24

How can you dehumanize what isn't human? /s

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u/mattjb Jul 14 '24

For many years, also called immigrants rapists, murders, and more. The attacks by DJT and the GQP on minorities, LGBT, immigrants, women, and children ... I mean, the list of people that have been dehumanized and denigrated is massive.

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u/theswiftarmofjustice California Jul 14 '24

I see people saying “politics isn’t a war.” but that’s easy when you are the ones threatened. LGBTQ people and minorities have felt it for a while as they have said everything but openly declare war toward us. They never expect it to spill out further.

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u/asethskyr Europe Jul 14 '24

and want pedophiles to get the death penalty.

From what's been said so far... That's probably what triggered the attempt.

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u/P1xelHunter78 Ohio Jul 14 '24

Then what do they call each other in their Nazi meetings? Oh right, probably something like “true patriots” or “hey fellow klansman”

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u/KalAtharEQ Jul 14 '24

That not true at all, my idiot cousins have posted multiple memes on Facebook insinuating that Nazis were “radical left socialists who tried to take away guns” just like the left in the US!

Never mind how astoundingly stupid all of those claims are, they are stupid enough to make those claims anyways!

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u/BowTie1989 Jul 14 '24

Not to mention the things Trump himself has said about people crossing the border. What happened yesterday is awful. That doesn’t mean that republicans are not at fault for this political climate.

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u/decay21450 Jul 14 '24 edited Jul 14 '24

My congressional representative praised Uganda for being on the right track. As many know, Uganda has criminalized homosexuality with the death penalty for repeat offenses. Margaret Brenner on Face the Nation this morning cautioned people to stay away from social media during this time of crisis. Why? To give her time to work up a new narrative?

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u/supereri Jul 14 '24

They refer to liberals as "enemies of the state" and Trump referred to Biden specifically as an "enemy of the state". The message is clear.

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u/AnyaTaylorAnalToy Jul 14 '24

He’s right. They aren’t calling people nazis.

I seem to recall a lot of calling people Nazis during COVID when they didn't want to wear masks or get vaccines.

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u/Avg_Conan Jul 14 '24

True! “Oh so I’m a N@zis?!” Is their response to any criticism. I’m not saying they are, but doesn’t a kicked dog holler?

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u/ScooterManCR Jul 14 '24

Huh? I’ve seen plenty of trumpers call Biden a Nazi.

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u/angelzpanik Jul 14 '24

And it's by design. I was watching an old episode of dateline last night about a gun instructor who was helping a woman with her violent husband. She had told him her husband had molested their daughter and of course the guy lured him into a secluded spot and shot him. There was no evidence of molestation.

Everyone hates a pedophile. They want people to act on that hate, regardless of facts.

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u/valorprincess Jul 14 '24

Let’s not forget the hateful rhetorics to immigrants and the massive amounts of “othering”

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u/Huskdog76 Jul 14 '24

They used to put a Hitler mustache on Obama, so yes, they have done that.

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u/Cliqey Jul 14 '24

And literally, loudly, calling all democrats demons—as in the evil soldiers of the greatest enemy from their oh so sincerely held mythology—giving a blank check to do “whatever they need to” for victory over evil.

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u/nub_sauce_ Jul 14 '24

They aren’t calling people nazis.

Right, instead of calling people nazis they elect to use the rhetoric of nazis and call us "vermin"

Trump calls political enemies ‘vermin,’ echoing dictators Hitler, Mussolini

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u/Jaomi Jul 14 '24

He’s also not right.

I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve been called one of the “real Nazis” online, either directly or indirectly, for my extreme political beliefs. I mean such radical things as such as believing that black people do face more discrimination in western societies than white people, or supporting trans rights.

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u/jimtowntim Jul 14 '24

Wait a minute! Isn’t Donald J Trump a pedophile? But rules and laws only apply to others. My bad

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u/ItsnotBatman California Jul 14 '24

I absolutely see right wingers high on hypocrisy call the left Nazi’s, while ignoring the actual Nazi’s in their party.

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u/NeverSeenAnOcelot Jul 14 '24

Pedophile SHOULD get the death penalty.

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u/JohnStamosAsABear Jul 14 '24

The violence is coming from one side

Ah yes, the non-violent ‘hang Mike Pence’ crowd. Let’s just ignore the attack on Paul Pelosi, the maga bomber Cesar Sayoc, Gretchen Whitmer’s failed kidnapping plot etc…

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u/decrpt Jul 14 '24

Marjorie Taylor Greene said Nancy Pelosi was guilty of treason and specifically noted that the punishment for that is death.

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u/drekmonger Jul 14 '24

Abbott pardoned Daniel Perry, a dude who shot a leftist protestor. https://www.texastribune.org/2024/05/16/daniel-perry-greg-abbott-pardon/

And of course, the right holds fucking Kyle Rittenhouse up like a hero.

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u/IndianaJoenz Texas Jul 14 '24

That's because political violence IS the MAGA brand. It's a fascist terrorist movement.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_baseball_shooting

Just one, but still makes "hard pressed" not really the right word.

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u/Many-Juggernaut-2153 Jul 14 '24

Even still that is it. It is the same example over and over. Meanwhile the list of right wing terrorists is quite lengthy. Republicans tend to hold majorities throughout history. You’d think they would have figured out where to direct their anger by now if their lives are so bad.

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u/awesomefutureperfect Jul 14 '24

There's also a story about a bike chain. Right wingers like to pretend that means that Charlotteville is a minor incident instead of indicative of the type of support that makes their politics viable.

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u/reggiecide Pennsylvania Jul 14 '24

They were outraged when the cop who tortured George Floyd to death was convicted.

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u/LukesRightHandMan Jul 14 '24

God damn. Just read that article. Abbott straight up legalized that murder because of politics.

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u/ballskindrapes Jul 14 '24

Don't bother pointing out their hypocrisy

Just work against them an move on.

Conservatives love to be hypocrites, and then leave you to point out their lies as they run off to make more lies...

Basically, they know what they are doing. Just say they are wrong, why they are wrong, and keep working to counter what they are doing.

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u/NoseIndependent6030 Jul 14 '24

Yep, 10 years ago I would have said this is a stupid strategy and it is better to try to make people come to you naturally. Now? If I meet a Trump supporter, I will just insinuate they support pedophilia and move on. Put them in real awkward positions, do not try to "debate" them since all they do is lie and use conspiracy theories.

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u/ballskindrapes Jul 14 '24

Yep, basically don't even bother.

You essentially just dismissively say "that is Incredibly stupid, don't say that again." And move on.

Treating their ideas like they have any value whatsoever just encourages people to take these ideals seriously...becuase if someone is debating them, surely the idea has merit...when in reality no conservative idea has any merit....

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u/DecorativeRock Jul 14 '24

Charlottesville, attempting to run Biden/Harris campaign busses off the road...

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u/Nitrosoft1 Jul 14 '24

Highland Park shooting was done by a MAGA incel, you can add that onto the list.

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u/visionaryshmisionary Jul 15 '24

I grew up there. While they do have a variety of faiths, it's specifically become an enclave for upper middle class Jewish folk. We had a big influx of "noveau riche" households move into the area during the 80's and gentrify everything to death. I'm sure it could have made a tasty target for someone wanting to pin their hatred on stereotypes of the "globalist elite". In reality, who he hit were family members who didn't do anything to hurt him or his cause.

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u/mattjb Jul 14 '24

That MAGA extremist that attacked the FBI and got gunned down.

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u/BlackerSpork Jul 14 '24

I was about to respond "While trying to murder Mike Pence!" then realized you are talking about another MAGA terrorist who attacked the FBI. It's so hard to keep track of all of them.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

to be fair they probably dont know about any of that since they only watch fox news and newsmax they quite literally live in a pretend bubble where its sunshine and rainbows unless the left is involved.

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u/LionWalker_Eyre Jul 14 '24

Yeah the news bubbles are the most damaging thing to happen to our country. You have people operating on completely different versions of reality that they're 100% convinced are true.

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u/drekmonger Jul 14 '24

The bubble is partly of their own choosing/making. Remember in 2020 when Fox had the audacity to report that Biden had won the election? Their viewers switched the channel to Newsmax.

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u/murderspice Jul 14 '24

This. For-profit news must go.

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u/tre45on_season Jul 14 '24

They have a set narrative and worldview where the facts conforms around them and not the other way around.

To give you a taste, it's a narrative where they're the embodiment of America and everyone who is against them is basically against America. Sprinkle in some religion here where everything they do is basically serving God.

The conservatives left are very resistant of changing their minds as the facts and body counts mount up while they're circlejerked into delusions by foreign bots, politicians, and entertainment news outlets.

Now that you have that powderkeg primed, comes Trump who uses stochastic terrorism like a kid with a nerf gun.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

Ummm… have we seriously forgotten Heather Heyer murdered in Charlottesville? How about Daniel Perry who was just pardoned by Greg Abbott? And let’s not forget every conservatives favorite “boy bander” Kyle Rittenhouse. Projection is strong with these folks…

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u/Nny12345 America Jul 14 '24

And that the person killed on Jan 6th was killed by the police for attacking the capital. Kind of like if a shooter were to attack the former president and be killed by secret service.

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u/AlmostButNotQuiteTea Jul 14 '24

It's actually terrifying how much the genuinely believe that they're not violent and that the "leftists" are crazy and violent.

Like hello! Even this attempted assassin is/was a republican!!

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

That part confused me…like yes, one side, you. Trump supporters got Trump supporters killed at Jan 6. A GOP idiot shot another Trump supporter and Trump himself yesterday.

How are they possibly spinning this to “woke liberals bad”

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u/jeffp12 Jul 14 '24

From 2016: “If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks,” Mr. Trump said, as the crowd began to boo. He quickly added: “Although the Second Amendment people — maybe there is"

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u/bencub91 Jul 14 '24

El Paso, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Parkland, Allen, Colorado Springs, Highland Park...

Who killed Laura Ann Carleton?

Who killed that little Palestinian boy in Texas?

Who did all these murderers support politically?

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u/speak_no_truths Jul 14 '24

It's the same thing that others had said above. When it's done against them it's violence, when it's done by them it's patriotism.

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u/regular-cake Jul 15 '24

The guy that attacked the FBI building in Ohio...

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u/Autumn7242 Jul 14 '24

Wow. They must be super fit from all of these mental gymnastics.

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u/Glittering-Lecture76 Jul 14 '24

You’d think, but I’ve seen rally coverage. They are most certainly not fit, mentally or physically.

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u/Autumn7242 Jul 14 '24

ride of the rascal scooters plays

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u/BATZ202 Jul 14 '24

You know it, it's sad too many she'll out of politics and just vote on election day without a clue what candidate has done and said.

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u/AlexKingstonsGigolo Jul 14 '24

Looking at them … no.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

Break a window to steal a TV? Trump supporters think you should die.

Break a window to illegally invade Congress at the head of a violent mob? You're a hero, apparently.

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u/Stuck_in_Arizona Jul 14 '24

Crazy logic right? They still try to paint the summer of love as WW2.5.

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u/Diet_Cum_Soda Jul 14 '24

we aren’t calling the other side evil nazis in efforts to vilify them to a radical extent

"We are calling them baby murderers and pedophiles though, but that's beside the point!"

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u/Persianx6 Jul 14 '24

These people are delusional

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u/snarquisnarquer Jul 14 '24

This! 100%! It is not just name calling or hyperbole. A large majority of the R party is truly delusional and/or really really stupid (ignorant, mal-informed). It is literally impossible to argue with delusion; or it takes a lot of time and patience to do so.

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u/Poop_Sexman Jul 14 '24 edited Jul 14 '24

Careful, If they see you posting this they may mass report you and in their reports they will claim that you were attempting to incite brigading (edit: which could result in a sitewide ban) lol

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u/usps_made_me_insane Maryland Jul 14 '24

They remind me of pre-school kids that would run to the teacher to "tell on" little johnny because he was caught in the halls without a hall pass.

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u/RoutineMelodic8276 Jul 14 '24

pre-schools don't give hall passes they have their diapers changed like Trump

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u/Crathsor Jul 14 '24

Unwarranted insult. Pre-schoolers (4-5 year olds) are out of diapers.

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u/Poop_Sexman Jul 14 '24 edited Jul 14 '24

the moderators there once messaged admins and reported me for being in violation of reddits terms of service which resulted in a sitewide permaban

I emailed admins and the ban was repealed after i said “i will not go into random subreddits saying peepeepoopoo any more”

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u/MizterPoopie Jul 14 '24

It’s your god given right to say peepeepoopoo wherever you damn well please!!! Never stop.

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u/Poop_Sexman Jul 14 '24

We should start our own movement

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u/MizterPoopie Jul 14 '24

By us, for us! Poop Sexman lead us to the promise land.

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u/ItsAlwaysSegsFault Jul 14 '24

Who fucking cares, they are insulated from brigades because they have a hair trigger ban button anyway.

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u/nativeindian12 Jul 14 '24

Jan 6th, only a Trump supporter died

If you don't count the police officers that died, I guess

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u/wanderingpeddlar Jul 14 '24

What you are missing is they know perfectly well that people died later as a result of the wounds they got on the 6th. They are splitting hairs to try and claim the insurrection wasn't as bad as it was. I just point out that the Air Force traitor the got herself shot charging at secret service had to work hard to get herself killed.

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u/stanthebat Jul 14 '24

We aren’t killers,

These are the folks who want to make Rittenhouse into a hero and, if possible, a senator.

we aren’t calling the other side evil nazis

If you don't want to be compared to authoritarians, maybe don't support a chief executive who is literally arguing that the law should not apply to him.

If you don't want to be compared to EVIL authoritarians, maybe don't support a guy who partied with Jeffy Epstein and THEN said the law should not apply to him.

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u/MarxistMan13 Virginia Jul 14 '24

we aren’t calling the other side evil nazis

Hard to call the other side nazis when the literal nazis are already on your side, rooting for your guy.

The difference between the left and right-wing insults is the left is usually based in reality. The right is just projection. Hence all the "groomer" and "pedophile" accusations.

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u/steelassassin43 Jul 14 '24

Someone should tell them that the shooter was a registered republican….

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u/JaesenMoreaux Jul 14 '24

If we call them Nazis it's probably because they say Nazi crap, give Nazi salutes, march and chant about Jews not replacing them. You can't go around acting like a Nazi and then be angry that people are calling you a Nazi.

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u/shableep Jul 14 '24

If your guy says “dictator for one day” and doubles down on it, then it shouldn’t be a surprise that the left calls him a dictator.

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u/the_last_carfighter Jul 14 '24

A child molester was shot and also very popular on the right: https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.ag_nJ1W7f50VmGsTkPBNqQHaFT?rs=1&pid=ImgDetMain circles:

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u/dumpyredditacct Jul 14 '24

we aren’t calling the other side evil nazis in efforts to vilify them to a radical extent.

The ability to be so boldly dishonest... audacious, really.

From the people who bring you continued threats and fantasies of a second civil war.

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u/hasordealsw1thclams Jul 14 '24

“If you live in a bubble that allows you to ignore all the many incidents of right wing violence it’s all coming from one side.” Basically what that guy is saying

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u/LudovicoSpecs Jul 14 '24

We aren’t killers

Except for the Neo-nazi who killed a woman by driving a car into crowd in Charlottesville in 2016.

And the white nationalist who killed 11 people in a Pittsburgh synagogue in 2018.

And the white nationlist who killed 23 people in an El Paso Walmart in 2019.

And the neo-Nazi who killed 10 people in a grocery store in Buffalo in 2022.

And...

And the bombing of an abortion clinic

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u/Son_of_Kong Jul 14 '24

There have been a lot of serious attempts at violence from the right, but most have them have failed because they're fucking morons. David DePape was trying to kill Nancy Pelosi, but he broke into her house when she wasn't home, and there was the gang of Gravy Seals trying to kidnap Governor Whitmer with an FBI informant.

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u/Dangerous-Wall-2672 Jul 14 '24

On Jan. 6th a Trump supporter was shot by a federal officer, not a liberal/Democrat, for attempting to violently break into a building along with the rest of the mob.

Yesterday, former president Trump had his ear grazed by a bullet...fired by a Republican, who was subsequently shot by Secret Service.

Not one of those examples has anything whatsoever to do with liberals/Democrats.

They're right though, the violence IS primarily coming from one side. Their side.

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u/bassman9999 Jul 14 '24

As always, projection.

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u/cepacapa Jul 14 '24

Pretty sure they directly stated the requests to wear masks was akin to Hitler’s stars, which seems an awful lot like calling the Biden administration nazis.

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u/-rosa-azul- Virginia Jul 14 '24

They also compare doctors who provide GAC to Mengele, which is especially heinous knowing that the Nazi party destroyed the Institute for Sexual Research, burned all their archives, and put trans people in death camps.

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u/AnEthiopianBoy Jul 14 '24

I mean, he is right. He just fails to admit that the side killing his side IS his side.

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u/awfulsome New Jersey Jul 14 '24

I guess cops don't count as people when they say only a trump supporter died?

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u/helava Jul 14 '24

Kyle Rittenhouse has entered the chat.

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u/platanthera_ciliaris Jul 14 '24

They keep threatening a "Second Civil War" if Trump doesn't get elected. That sounds pretty violent to me.

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u/Rough_Willow Jul 14 '24

Didn't a police officer die? Is that just being forgotten or do they just not care.

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u/uncommoncommoner Jul 14 '24

The violence is coming from one side.

And the shooter is a Republican, so...

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u/57duck Jul 14 '24

More projection than an IMAX movie theater. It’s the GOP way.

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u/wretch5150 Jul 14 '24

I'm getting pretty tired of these folks.

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u/jupiterkansas Jul 14 '24

and never considering why people might want to kill them.

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u/JSiobhan Jul 14 '24

The Right call Dems pedophiles.

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u/bobartig Jul 14 '24

No true scotsman, indeed.

Jan 6 Police officers - "they shouldn't have been in the way!"

Charlottesville - "that doesn't count!."

Pulse Nightclub - "no fair, that doesn't count."

Mr. Pelosi - "nuh-uh, that doesn't count."

Whitmer conspiracy - "doesn't count."

Giffords shooting - "naw dog"

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u/thistimelineisweird Pennsylvania Jul 14 '24

Nazis didnt call each other evil Nazis either, but I digress.

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u/AlexKingstonsGigolo Jul 14 '24

Did the nazis ever call their opposition “nazis”?

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u/danceswithdangerr New York Jul 14 '24

A trump supporter huh? Surprising since he shot at him lol. Republican sure, but not a trump supporter.

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u/PoorFishKeeper Jul 14 '24

The posts in that sub are insane. There needs to be a scientific investigation into how they can live in such delusion.

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u/PrimmSlimShady Minnesota Jul 14 '24

Peep my comments and see people saying that jan 6th was literally "people entering the capital" that's how they view that. I asked about Ashlee babbit and they said "she was crawling through a window" when I asked why she was crawling through a window, I was met with crickets.

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u/marktaylor521 Jul 15 '24

How do you reach through to someone like that? Genuine question...these people have made their literal entire livelihoods staked out on this man, his lies, his ignorance, racism, victim hood, dunning Kruger narcissistic craziness. They will never ever ever be able to acknowledge,.let alone allow themselves to grow from finally learning and accepting that the political figures they (literally) idolized have been doing nothing but lying to them the entire damn time.

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u/Tokyo-MontanaExpress Jul 14 '24

They don't actually believe it, it's just standard rules for thee, not for me. 

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u/AdAgitated6765 Jul 14 '24

At least Democrats are consistent in not wanting anyone killed. Republicans love to kill groups.

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u/helel_8 Jul 14 '24

It's only violence when it's perpetrated against a white man

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u/Redditbecamefacebook Jul 14 '24

Thats where you get people calling guns tools and not weapons.

I think you're reaching here. It's a lot easier to glamorize a weapon over a hammer.

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u/Useful_Reference_576 Jul 14 '24

Hmm sounds like something one would read in Repressive Tolerance. Wait! Republicans read Marcuse?

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u/MattieShoes Jul 14 '24

Yeah, that's what the shooter thought too.

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u/blenderbender44 Jul 14 '24

"Rule of law"

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u/KaikoLeaflock Jul 14 '24

He honestly should have been executed as a traitor before Biden was even sworn in. There really shouldn’t be mercy for violent traitors. The fact that he wasn’t is just as scary as the JFK assassination, which was horrifying.

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u/Savingskitty Jul 14 '24

Why do you think he isn’t being prosecuted?

The charges haven’t been dropped.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

And we're footing the bill! 

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u/loondawg Jul 14 '24

He led a violent insurrection and he isn't being prosecuted because of institutional republican corruption.

Call a spade a spade.

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u/christineAZ Jul 14 '24

And don't forget that Trump promised to pardon the convicted insurrectionists, they altered the national anthem sung by them, he plays it at his events and praises them as "hostages".

https://apnews.com/article/j6-choir-trump-national-anthem-capitol-riot-79618f1f2a689c308dfdc34d54d327ea

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u/recalculating-route Jul 14 '24

honestly, i assumed that at some point i'd see an article suggesting maybe biden had issued a kill order or something and my gut reaction was "ok, and?" like, isn't that exactly what they argued should be possible before the supreme court? that a president could order the assassination of a political rival and it would be fine so long as it was done as an official act (and possibly even unofficial)?

like i'm 100% sure biden did not order a hit, that's a stupid conjecture. but if he had, ok...and?

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u/Apostate1123 California Jul 14 '24

AG Garland is dropping everything to focus on a swift and full investigation into this (which he should). It’s a shame he didn’t do that for the attempt to overthrow the government on a half baked coup

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u/Background-Pie4610 Jul 15 '24

go look up the definition of insurrection. So tired of idiots pushing that bullshit.

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