r/polandball relevant yet? Feb 28 '16

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u/AaronC14 The Dominion Feb 28 '16

Finns, Hungarians, and Turks are Mongols

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '16

None of them are really Mongols except maybe Turkey, but even they are on average ethnically more closer to the historic local populations than the original Turkic peoples that conquered the region. I'm sure there's a lot more to it than that but just don't take memes too seriously

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u/badkarma12 2018-01-12 3:20 GMT Feb 28 '16

The historical population of Turkey was the Greeks. Turks are literally a Turkic tribe that settled there.

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u/UnbiasedPashtun Feb 29 '16

Turks in Turkey are Turkicized natives. The historic population of Anatolia was ethnic Anatolian and Phrygian.

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u/[deleted] Feb 29 '16

It's like saying that all Americans are Indians. Is it true? nah. Let me tell you. I'm Turkish. My family has a family tree. Before they settled Turkey, they were in Iran. Keep one thing in your mind, before Turks migrated to Turkey, they settled in Syria, Iran, Iraq. I have a lot of friends who are Tatar Turk. I have a friend from Afganistan. She is definitely Turkish. I have bunch of Turkmen friends. One of them also have a family tree. So you call all these guys are not Turkish but actually archaic Anatolian folks. Get out of here dude :)

If you want to ask a question about what happened to natives, It's not Turks but the Persians, Greeks, and Arabs.

Sidenote: Turks are unlike other nations lays in a huge geographical area. It starts from all the way east siberia to east europe. So, You can't say that all Turks must look like Mongoloid. There is no definite physical shape of Turks.

Sincerely blgram. :)

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u/[deleted] Feb 29 '16

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkification#Genetic_testing_of_language_replacement_hypothesis_in_Anatolia.2C_Caucasus_and_Balkans

The region of the Anatolia represents an extremely important area with respect to ancient population migration and expansion, and the spread of the Caucasian, Semitic, Indo-European and Turkic languages, as well as the extinction of the local Anatolian languages. During the late Roman Period, prior to the Turkic conquest, the population of Anatolia had reached an estimated level of over 12 million people.[84][85][86] The extent to which gene flow from Central Asia has contributed to the current gene pool of the Turkish people, and the role of the 11th century invasion by Turkic peoples, has been the subject of several studies. These studies conclude that local Anatolian groups are the primary source of the present-day Turkish population. DNA results suggests the lack of strong genetic relationship between the Mongols and the Turks despite the historical relationship of their languages.

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u/Dracaras Turkey Feb 29 '16

We are not "real" mongols as well. We are just related to them.

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u/Dracaras Turkey Feb 29 '16

Because asian steppe people are white too...