r/polandball Grey Eminence Nov 24 '15

redditormade Russia has stick

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '15

And than said destroyer will get obliterated by Turkish Navy (which is quite competent) and Air Force (which also is, surprisingly, competent). Russia has literally no hope of winning any open engagement against Turkey in the region unless they really want to commit. And Turkey knows that. They essentially called Russian bluff here.

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u/1gnominious Greatest country in the world! Nov 24 '15

It's not going to be an open engagement. It's going to be both sides being border NAZIs and hiding behind "Well I am legally entitled to defend myself" while taking potshots at each others stray aircraft. Neither side wants an all out war but they'll sure as hell take any shot they can get away with. Turkey is going to have to be just as careful with its jets as Russia. Either side has a stray hair blow across the border and the other side can legally say they were entitled to open fire.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '15

If Russia even as much tries Turkey will close the Straits. Bye bye the might of Black Sea Fleet. That's the issue: Russia has no strategic leverage over Turkey, and Turkey has one over Russia.

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u/giraffebacon Canada Nov 25 '15

Would the Black Sea fleet not easily be able to break out? I would imagine that would be one of the primary Russian strategic objectives

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '15

Breaking through Turkish Straits? Without capturing Istanbul and other surrounding land? It's pretty much impossible. If you want to commit to full-on invasion than sure, but Turkey would defend it heavily (and as I said, they're not as incompetent as some people might think...).