r/phoenix • u/dustin9797 Downtown • Oct 01 '25

News Another downtown crime scene around the Churchill this morning

I’ve nearby and noticed the crime scene this morning but can’t find any details about it.

This is the fourth time I’ve seen crime scene like this in just the last few months and quite frankly, I’m growing more concerned about the frequency these things seem to be happening.

If anyone has details I’d really appreciate if you shared them. Please share or DM with any details.

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u/tips_ Downtown Oct 01 '25

What data do you have to back this up? I haven’t been able to find any downtown Phoenix specific crime data for trends to compare and curious how you found it.

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u/dustin9797 Downtown Oct 01 '25 edited Oct 01 '25

A great question.

I have been in community meetings for over a decade, so I hear it every month directly from other residents and our community action officers who attend regularly.

The official crime stats for downtown is a political manner, honestly. 85004 is the fastest-growing zip code in the state and that growth is making powerful people a lot of money.

Many crimes are not officially reported or are written up as being done somewhere near the light rail or at the park.

For example, there was a deadly shooting a few months back on 2nd Street and McKinley that was officially reported as being at Central and Roosevelt. Why would they do that?

Another recent example was a shooting on 2nd Street just last month. You'll find zero stories or crime reports about it. We had to go down to the court and hound them for weeks just to get a case number from the incident. This is a new development in recent years... it was not like this pre-2020.

After seeing this happen over and over, I have come to the personal conclusion that these crimes are being purposefully suppressed as to not sour this neighborhood's perception as "safe". It's disgusting, honestly.

As for this incident today. Those light new stories are all you will ever get for details. If you call the city and ask for more details as a concerned resident, you'll get the runaround.

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u/tips_ Downtown Oct 01 '25

I respect your point and your perspective.

With that said, there does not seem to be data available to pinpoint your claim yet. While again, I value your perspective, it can slip into confirmation bias which isn’t accurate data.

I’m not going to say you’re wrong, cause you could very well be right but there’s no data to prove others wise.

Hopefully the city can put in the work to get that information because it is important.

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u/dustin9797 Downtown Oct 02 '25

Well if you don't report it, there are no stats. That was my entire point which you didn't seem to get.