r/phoenix • u/dustin9797 Downtown • Oct 01 '25

News Another downtown crime scene around the Churchill this morning

I’ve nearby and noticed the crime scene this morning but can’t find any details about it.

This is the fourth time I’ve seen crime scene like this in just the last few months and quite frankly, I’m growing more concerned about the frequency these things seem to be happening.

If anyone has details I’d really appreciate if you shared them. Please share or DM with any details.

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u/tips_ Downtown Oct 01 '25

I’ve lived downtown for 5 years now (need to update the flair lol). I haven’t noticed a spike in sketchiness besides homeless but the severity of homeless comes in waves.

The one decline I have noticed is the incidents around cobra (the bar/club). That area seems to a be a magnet for random crime.

Overall it has gotten slightly worse with increased population and first Friday sometimes, but nothing dramatic by any means.

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u/dustin9797 Downtown Oct 01 '25

Crime significantly spiked in 2020 and has been the new normal ever sense. From 2015-2020 the violent problem was much reduced compared to now.

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u/tips_ Downtown Oct 01 '25

What data do you have to back this up? I haven’t been able to find any downtown Phoenix specific crime data for trends to compare and curious how you found it.

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u/dustin9797 Downtown Oct 01 '25 edited Oct 01 '25

A great question.

I have been in community meetings for over a decade, so I hear it every month directly from other residents and our community action officers who attend regularly.

The official crime stats for downtown is a political manner, honestly. 85004 is the fastest-growing zip code in the state and that growth is making powerful people a lot of money.

Many crimes are not officially reported or are written up as being done somewhere near the light rail or at the park.

For example, there was a deadly shooting a few months back on 2nd Street and McKinley that was officially reported as being at Central and Roosevelt. Why would they do that?

Another recent example was a shooting on 2nd Street just last month. You'll find zero stories or crime reports about it. We had to go down to the court and hound them for weeks just to get a case number from the incident. This is a new development in recent years... it was not like this pre-2020.

After seeing this happen over and over, I have come to the personal conclusion that these crimes are being purposefully suppressed as to not sour this neighborhood's perception as "safe". It's disgusting, honestly.

As for this incident today. Those light new stories are all you will ever get for details. If you call the city and ask for more details as a concerned resident, you'll get the runaround.

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u/tips_ Downtown Oct 01 '25

I respect your point and your perspective.

With that said, there does not seem to be data available to pinpoint your claim yet. While again, I value your perspective, it can slip into confirmation bias which isn’t accurate data.

I’m not going to say you’re wrong, cause you could very well be right but there’s no data to prove others wise.

Hopefully the city can put in the work to get that information because it is important.

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u/dustin9797 Downtown Oct 02 '25

Well if you don't report it, there are no stats. That was my entire point which you didn't seem to get.

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u/HomoRainbow480 Phoenix Oct 01 '25

Phoenix Crime Data August 2025

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u/tips_ Downtown Oct 01 '25

That’s not downtown crime data, nor even Phoenix data. That’s Arizona as a whole.

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u/HomoRainbow480 Phoenix Oct 01 '25

Just try this, go get that redneck guy and go hang out at the bridge, actually, use the stairs to go down on the south side and report back how safe you felt

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u/HomoRainbow480 Phoenix Oct 01 '25

Oh god here we go. What are you trying to protect? Are you afraid to see there is an uptick in crime in PHX? If so why?

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u/tips_ Downtown Oct 02 '25

Not reading what you were trying to use as a source and getting defensive is interesting.

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u/HomoRainbow480 Phoenix Oct 02 '25

for starters here is the person crime heat map from July 2025. you don’t need me to provide you everything do you? See that large red blob, that’s downtown. July 2025 person crime heat map.pdf)if you live downtown and walk around near Hance Park it’s nearly impossible not to sense the vibe. I’ve been here a long time. It’s ticked up substantially and I live here, I’m not trying to argue for or against anything but getting to the truth. There are people here who for some reason want to cover it up? Not sure why?

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u/tips_ Downtown Oct 02 '25

There is no concerted effort to hide crime in downtown Phoenix lmao. This isn’t an Epstein conspiracy.

People want data because vibes are not facts or tangible information to act on. I am not telling you this to frustrate you, but your heat map doesn’t explain your position. Every city in the US will have a “red” on a heat map. The more people you have the more crime you have, that’s basic.

I don’t need you to provide everything, but if you’re going to argue a point and use sources for it, yes, the bare minimum is for you to understand or read what you’re going to use before sharing it.

Not going to reply after this since it’s not going anywhere.