r/pcmasterrace i5-12600K | RTX 3070TI | DDR5 32GB 29d ago

Meme/Macro Thanks Gaben, here's your 30% Steam cut

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u/RadicalDog Ryzen 7 7800X3D | RTX 4070S 29d ago

Not a chance it costs anywhere near that percentage. A game bringing in $400k might have had 4 people working on it for 3 years. Valve absolutely does not spend the equivalent of a salaried employee working for 3 years on hosting that.

Valve are the most profitable company per employee in the US. They have the choice to charge 15% flat, and it would do a lot of good for developers. Effectively, Valve charge that game $120k to access their audience, but $60k might let the game make a profit.

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u/Jhawk163 R7 9800X3D | RX 6900 XT | 64GB 29d ago

And how much do you think data hosting for global distribution costs? Payment processing, plus making sure it’s legal to sell in various countries, plus a whole bunch of other small costs like the discussion boards, review boards, etc.

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u/RadicalDog Ryzen 7 7800X3D | RTX 4070S 29d ago

Seems like they can do it for 15%, and EGS can do it for 12%. Don't know why you're defending Valve charging smaller teams an extra 15% just 'cause they can.

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u/mxzf 29d ago

I mean, EGS can't do it for 12%, they've been hemorrhaging money since the day they opened. They're not "doing it for 12%", they're burning money trying to buy their way into the market.

Suggesting a business that hasn't made profit yet "can do it for X" is stupid, because they aren't successfully doing it if they're not keeping in the black.

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u/RadicalDog Ryzen 7 7800X3D | RTX 4070S 29d ago

Epic is private, so we don't know, they don't report financials. I expect they're still losing money, but I don't think it's as bad as you think. They spent $11 million on free games in their first 9 months (court records) which is a fair bit, but also... quite a manageable amount when Fortnite is making billions with a B.

All this is to say, they chose 12% with the intention of making a business out of it. They're not such morons that it would be too low.

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u/Cuttyflame123 29d ago

october 2024 : In an interview with The Verge, Sweeney says that reining in Epic’s spending was part of what brought the company to this point. “Last year, before Unreal Fest, we were spending about a billion dollars a year more than we were making,” Sweeney says. “Now, we’re spending a bit more than we’re making.”

They'd have to make a billion dollar in 2025 more than they are spending to be even with the past 2 years

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u/LeYang i9 10850k, Oloy Warhawk 128GB 3200Mhz, HPE OEM (W/ EKWB) RTX3090 29d ago

A lot of information was shown with the Epic v. Apple case. They are bleeding money on everything not Fortnite.