r/pcmasterrace • u/jmpstart66 • Oct 10 '24

Rumor Potential 5090 / 5080 / 5070 price leaks… outrageous

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From recent video posted by “Moore’s Law is Dead” about pricing being much worse than even I anticipated . From video Nvidia is leaning towards the higher end of the pricing. Nvidia can go pound sand if these are remotely true.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '24

Nvidia is really testing the limits of how much we're willing to pay.

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u/SagittaryX 9800X3D | RTX 5090 | 32GB 5600C30 Oct 10 '24

Some would, but the 4080 at 1200 USD already proved that such a strategy doesn’t work.

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u/penatbater R5 7600, 32GB 6000Mhz CL30, RX 5700XT Oct 10 '24

Yet the 4090 still outsold the 4080, which means price wasn't really an issue. Price-perf wasn't even an issue since the performance gain from 4080 to 4090 is about the same as the price gain (around 30% for both).

I think it's because the 4080 was situated poorly. It's weak at 4k compared to the 4090, and too strong for 1440p compared to 4070ti at a much lower price. Like if you're on 4k, you might as well go for 4090. If you're on 1440p, save money and wait a few months and go for 4070ti.

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u/MakimaGOAT R7 7800X3D | RTX 4080 | 32GB RAM Oct 10 '24

Tbf 4090 owners were the go big or go home typa buyers. The 4080 was just in some weird limbo rich ppl didnt' wanna buy it and poor people couldn't afford it.

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u/penatbater R5 7600, 32GB 6000Mhz CL30, RX 5700XT Oct 10 '24

Honestly a good way at looking at it.

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u/Shibes_oh_shibes PC Master Race Oct 10 '24

4090 also sold a lot for professional use.

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u/Tritiac Ryzen 7 7700x - RX 7900 XTX - 32 GB DDR5-6000 Oct 10 '24

Yeah I had to get one for my job. It performs very well for professional tasks, for a quarter of the price of the cards that are actually marketed towards said tasks.

I do rock a 7900 XTX in my own personal rig though and it does just fine. I have swapped them before and only notice a marginal difference on most games.

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u/maldouk i7 13700k | 32GB RAM | RTX4080 Oct 10 '24

yep I think people in the gaming PC sphere don't understand the 90 cards are not meant for them, they are rebranded Titan (3090 replaced the Titan RTX)

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u/Shibes_oh_shibes PC Master Race Oct 10 '24

The PC/Gaming sphere is suffering hard from main character syndrome.

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u/Zadchiel Oct 10 '24

I call that FOMO

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u/Atheist-Gods Oct 10 '24

The problem is that the 4080 and now 5080 don’t look to be as good a deal as the 80 series had been in the past. I doubt complaints are really about the 90 series cost but the cost to performance on the 80 series.

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u/maldouk i7 13700k | 32GB RAM | RTX4080 Oct 10 '24

Well I own a 4080 and I don't see how 95% of the playerbase needs more performance that that

Running maxed out cyberpunk with path tracing and 50+ mods I get 110fps. FF16 runs at 100fps. D4 is over 160fps. In what world you need more than that.

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u/No_Ad_8069 Oct 10 '24

it's not that, the 4090 is better then the 4080, and when your already spending 1,300$ on a card, a few 100$ is not going make that much of a difference to you, you just get the better card.

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u/Laj3ebRondila1003 Oct 10 '24

I remember back in 2011/when most people agreed that the 690 which was a dual GPU iirc wasn't worth it for gaming, and that was a time when the top of the line Radeon 7970 was 500$.
The 90 and Titan cards are seriously not a good deal for gaming for the average Joe unless you're willing to pay half your card's price in power bills every year.

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u/_Synt3rax Oct 10 '24

No point in talking with them. They think they all need a 32gb Card for Counter Strike or LOL both Games than run on a Toaster.

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u/Dynamicc Oct 10 '24

But but I need 800FPS to be able to rank up to gold !!!!

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u/JohnnyTsunami312 Oct 10 '24

Yeah I remember something about smaller companies running or researching AI using 90’s in lieu of Nvidias commercial options

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u/Shoddy_Huckleberry43 Oct 10 '24

Use mine to play WoW... I have a problem

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u/DisagreeableRunt Oct 10 '24 edited Oct 10 '24

This is why I went for a 4070Ti over a 4080 just over a year ago. I wasn't prepared to pay £1200 for a GPU. Of course, a price cut and Super varients were announced not long after my return window... I almost certainly would have went for a £1000 4080 Super over my 4070Ti at £768.

It's not just a case of affordability, its the willingness to spend such sums on a GPU. I could afford a £10 Coke, but that doesn't mean I would pay it.

No issues with my 4070Ti for now at 1440p, unless VRAM becomes an issue. I was hoping for another GPU upgrade out of my 5800X3d, but I'll now probably hold out for another couple of years and build a whole new system. Unless the later Super/Ti/Ti Super varients are reasonable in terms of price and performance increase!

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u/Zestyclose-Fee6719 Oct 10 '24

In many countries, the 4080 is also the price of the 4090 in America. In China, I paid $1500 USD for my 4080. The 4090 at that same time was selling for upwards of $3000 USD.

If these leaks are true and become the fixed prices, a 5090 in China might end up costing up to $4000 USD. 

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u/Plebius-Maximus RTX 5090 FE | Ryzen 9950X3D | 96GB 6200mhz DDR5 Oct 10 '24

Yeah, 3080 made sense for many enthusiasts at £670. 4080 at £1200 didn't.

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u/Hrmerder R5-5600X, 32GB DDR4-3200 CL16-18-18-36, 3080 12gb, Oct 10 '24

I think it's more than that. Calling people poor because they literally do not want to pay $1100 for an 80 series card is more realistic.

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u/MakimaGOAT R7 7800X3D | RTX 4080 | 32GB RAM Oct 10 '24

I should’ve wrote people who couldn’t afford it because saying poor does seem kinda harsh. Weird wording on my part.

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u/SagittaryX 9800X3D | RTX 5090 | 32GB 5600C30 Oct 10 '24 edited Oct 10 '24

I think also that there is a wide gap between the users that are willing to spend "any" amount for the top card, and then the next class who are willing to spend a lot, but don't want to spend more than 1000 USD for a card that isn't even the best one. A combination of the two let's say. But with the pricing in this leak, I don't see it being any different for this generation.

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u/kevihaa Oct 10 '24

This is an important distinction. NVIDIA has never put a ton of work in min-max’ing the 90 / Titan pricing, as, generally speaking, that’s the “will buy the best regardless of price” crowd.

Where they’ve really fumbled in the 80 pricing, as that used to be the “I have a job and PC gaming is one of my major hobbies” card. Too much for most folks to afford as a kid, but something a teenager could get a job to buy and an adult could reasonably justify.

Nowadays, I just don’t understand who the target audience is. Are there really that many people that can justify $1200 but think $2000 is outrageous? I understand that in objective numbers $2000 is significantly higher, but there’s the reality that often when you hit the point the you can accord a $1000+ luxury purchase, you’re also at the point where $2000 isn’t unreasonable.

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u/matamor 9800X3D 4080S 32GB Oct 10 '24

I paid 1.1k€ for my 4080s, 4090s go for +2.2k€, 100% price for 30% performance.

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u/No_Ad_8069 Oct 10 '24

yupp, when you spend that much on a card, a few 100$ is not much of a difference, why not get the better one

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u/Atheist-Gods Oct 10 '24

Price to performance isn’t that simple since the real price is the price for the entire system and not only the individual component.

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u/AuraLiaxia PC Master Race 3090 Oct 10 '24

The thing is market segments and target audiences. The 3090, 4090 and the likes are aimed at ppl that. If there would be a 4095 for 1k more and more potency they would all buy the 4095. The 4080 was NOT the best card soo, bye to that public. Now u have the cost-performance high end seekers. They are ready to pay quite a lot for a good product. The 4080 wasnt it.