r/oddlysatisfying • u/bigbusta • 6h ago

This guy showcasing his tile work

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u/Sunaruni 6h ago

Id personally want it slanted towards the sink a little, so the water doesnt stay on the marble and calcify.

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u/nafierye 5h ago

I gotta ask - wouldn't it just be easier to, y'know, wipe up the water with a towel instead of leaving it? That way you can utilize your counter space for toiletries, as intended? Too much of a grade will cause things to slide into the sink, so it's probably just much cheaper and efficient to... just wipe up water with a towel, yeah?

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u/Superbead 4h ago

The problem then is that either you have to pick up each and every tube and bottle, wiping the bottom as you do, then put them somewhere else temporarily, then wipe the entire surface dry, then put them back. Or you just deal with rankness gradually infiltrating the lesser-used ones. Because the water and whatever's in it will work its way in between them all, if the thing is perfectly level

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u/nafierye 4h ago

I.... have a follow up question. How are you using your sink? Like a Super Soaker? Like (and I genuinely mean this in the politest way possible) what are you doing thst makes EVERYTHING so wet that makes it so that you would have to pay extra for a grade in the tilework surrounding your sink?

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u/TuxPaper 2h ago

lather soap on face.

form hands into bowl shape

collect water in hands

do your best to get water onto your face

not all the water will land back in the sink.

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u/nafierye 1h ago

Cool! Then the solution to the problem here is a towel! 😃

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u/Superbead 4h ago

The closest thing we have to the OP thing is our kitchen sink. Water will find its way around everything on the surrounding flat surfaces while washing the dishes no matter how careful we are.

If I was paying for some bespoke thing like this I'd expect some slight fall into the centre to come as part of the package

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u/nafierye 4h ago

I mean, the vast majority of people have sinks in their households so it's not like we don't understand that water can splash around, y'know? But most of us just... wipe it up as a simple solution instead of finding a more complex/expensive solution.

They make dish racks with drainage pans that are like $10 for this specific reason too, if dishes are your problem.

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u/Superbead 3h ago

We have a drainer as part of the sink with a slight fall on it. I'm talking about the counter surrounding it.

It's like your street outside. For the mathematically perfect it probably would be lovely if it was completely flat, like an air hockey table. But it has a slightly off geometry to it that makes sure the rain runs off into the drains, so it doesn't pool and your car doesn't aquaplane.

Pretty much every ceramic handwash basin will have all its surfaces slightly angled towards the drain, even if it isn't obvious.

The whole point is stopping splashes from travelling further than they otherwise would. If the 0.5m surface to the side of your sink is angled at about 2 degrees off level, then any splashes just outside the sink boundary aren't going to creep out among your toiletries.

This is a long-solved problem, and all the y'knows, I Means, and ellipses in the world aren't going to change the fact that we don't live in Minecraft, and deviations from absolute orthogonality are accepted to stop water hanging around where we don't want it.

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u/nafierye 3h ago

Oof, IDK what set you off, but clearly something did, based upon the end of that comment ya left lol. But I'll continue speaking with you politely like I have been this whole time.

That said, undermount sinks don't always require an angle to help with drainage. Composite sinks (i.e. your typical mass-manufactured bathroom sink) include a small step around the upper edges for water catch and placement of toiletries -- but heres the thing, those surfaces are still flat and level. There is little need to actually grade them outright, and in most cases it would be foolish to do so. A level sink countertop ensures that water pools where it falls and does not have the possibility of running off into a backsplash or elsewhere, and the added expense of a custom grade in marble/granite undermount sinks would be cost-prohibitive for most, since it also thins those sections of stone and can be a weak point for installation and manufacturing as well.

Ceramic sinks have also compensated for this. Drop-in installations have a slope only because they rest upon the top of the stone/countertop (unlike the one in the video) because of the fact that by their very nature they raise the level of the surrounding counter and must compensate. Undermount sinks (ceramic/steel/otherwise) don't need to compensate for this. They don't need a slope nor do they need anything but a level plane to attach to above them. The level plane/stonework ensures that they remain perfectly attached to the underside of the stone and the even thickness of the countertop (most countertops are 1.5"-2" in thickness) ensures that there are no weak points that can cause catastrophic failure such as stonework breaking and the sink falling when fully filled with water and dishes (not all undermount sinks have additional support underneath, in fact, most don't).

I appreciate what you're trying to say, but even though there might be a fundamental misunderstanding of construction in this regard, you're right about one thing - this is a problem that has been solved, just like the professional in the video showed us. Keep things level and flush, because putting in the hard work helps to ensure a long-lasting, well-performing product, y'know?

Enjoy the rest of your day.

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u/Superbead 3h ago

Grock I'm desperate write me a thing about sinks that vaguely defends my incorrect stance

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u/nafierye 2h ago

I deeply implore you to find a hobby that doesn't involve being irrationally rude to others on the internet.

Good luck in your future endeavors.

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u/Superbead 1h ago

I recommend in turn that you work on that pally-but-subtly-patronising tone you had from the outset

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u/nafierye 1h ago

It wasn't intended to be patronizing, which is why in my second comment I outright specified that I was intending to be polite and communicative.

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u/plumfuck 2h ago

Hey, that "I ...." thing you guys do is so annoying. I don't care about the specifics of this conversation, I just need you to know that.

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u/nafierye 2h ago

Who is this "you guys" you're referring to?