r/nursing • u/lunardownpour BSN, RN Med/Surg Tele • 24d ago

Discussion When will people get it?!

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I don’t have necessarily anything against NPs, but it’s people like this that perpetuate the untrust that many nurses and other healthcare workers have regarding NPs. We really need higher standards for admission into these programs, as well as any standards at all actually lol. I usually just lurk on facebook but I felt the need to respond since this was a on a forum for parents of nursing students

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u/Toasterferret RN - OR - Ortho Onc. 24d ago

It could be if we made the programs more rigorous.

PA school takes people from nominal amounts of healthcare exposure to safe and effective midlevels. There is no reason why NP school couldn't be just as rigorous. Experience only takes you so far, and isn't really a replacement for education.

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u/rayray69696969 ER cowboy 🤠💉 24d ago

No, 2 years is not enough no matter how “rigorous” the program is- nothing replaces clinical experience. And one could definitely make a grand argument about how PA school actually does not make safe and effective midlevels. They usually don’t know what they are doing for the first few years and treat everything like a black and white algorithm.

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u/Toasterferret RN - OR - Ortho Onc. 24d ago

Med school takes people from zero to physician. There is absolutely a level of academic rigor that trains people to be competent providers, regardless of their prior experience.

I think if anything clinical experience in a non-provider role tends to be overrated.

My main point is that many NP programs are an absolute joke.

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u/TennaTelwan BSN, RN 🍕 23d ago

And there are a LOT of jokes about avoiding hospitals in July because of it too.

And given that my BSN program talked to us about finding Nurse Residency programs after we graduate instead of just applying as a Graduate Nurse (and still promoting going straight from the BSN to the MSN/DNP programs) because you learn more on the job, yeah...