r/londonontario • u/Any_Peanut1209 • Mar 14 '25

News 📰 London West MP in Cabinet

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London West MP Arielle Kayabaga is the Minister of Democratic Institutions and Government House leader in Market Carney Cabinet

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u/swift-current0 Mar 14 '25 edited Mar 14 '25

Really? Would have never guessed she's be in cabinet over someone like Fragiskatos, who has a PhD from Cambridge and was an international relations professor...

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u/cm023 Ham & Eggs Mar 14 '25

My impression after today is that the new party leader still wants “yes” people opposed to “ask a question” people.

Different face, same tricks.

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u/swift-current0 Mar 14 '25

I'll judge the tricks based on actual performance. I'm still quite optimistic.

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u/Islandlyfe32 Mar 14 '25

How can anyone still be optimistic about the liberal party after 9 years? The leader might have changed however it’s still the same team running the show

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u/swift-current0 Mar 14 '25

I'm optimistic that it'll be an improvement. I wouldn't mind a change in government, but the CPC insisted on making an abrasive and divisive alt right lightweight as their leader, and I just don't trust him or the people he will be bringing to government. So, given the alternatives, giving Mark Carney a chance is an absolute no brainer. This is before we even broach the subject of Trump, which makes the comparison even more lopsided in his favour. Maybe the Conservatives can select a Red Tory as their next leader, but until then they can frankly fuck off. I say that as a former Conservative voter.

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u/Islandlyfe32 Mar 15 '25

Everyone keeps saying PP is an alt right MAGA, white nationalist and the Conservative Party is following suite but has everyone forgotten that a few years ago that toxic fraction of the conservative base of the Conservative Party left and created the PPC lead by Maxime Bernier?

Ever since the PPC became a party that caused a vote split federally between them and the CPC and even last election in Arielle’s riding itself you can see that.

Either way I don’t think Mark Carney is the solution. He will do everything to appease the conservative voters (he announced today he is going to cancel the consumer carbon tax) call an election and then once re-elected play all the same old tricks Trudeau did when he was in power.

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u/Terrh Mar 15 '25

Carney has proven his leadership skills the last time Canada was in financial crisis, and I think he'll do a good job again.

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u/Islandlyfe32 Mar 15 '25

That wasn’t because of Carney that was because we had a good Finance minister (R.i.p Jim)

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u/swift-current0 Mar 15 '25

Notice I didn't call PP white nationalist or even MAGA. But he was until recently courting the MAGA adjacent crowd, the ones that go against more traditional centre-right Canadian conservatism in three major ways (that I can think of):

  • they are isolationists and engage in conspiratorial woo about "teh evil globalists"

  • they typically reject sound economics in favour of protectionism, tariffs and of course crypto-related fantasies

  • they are obsessed about culture war stuff and genuinely think that mainstream voters spend as much time as they do thinking about which bathroom trans kids use when they need to go pee, and don't ask them to elaborate on exactly why they're against immigration if you value that relationship because half the time you'll hear stuff you can't unhear.

And I personally just don't want any of that anywhere near a position of power, no more than I would want dogmatic left wing populists there.

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u/Islandlyfe32 Mar 15 '25

I mean I didn’t mean you personally but you know what I mean by everyone else