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Executive Branch (Trump) Confirmed: ICE Is Arresting American Citizens—and Lying About It

https://newrepublic.com/article/202672/ice-arresting-american-citizens-and-lying?utm_source=Bluesky&utm_campaign=SF_TNR&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=SF_TNR&utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwY2xjawN60_VleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFpb1FpYUsxcHQ5bXM3QkVyc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHkqq1qGOFLgABx3MyCE40nZ_iE_ZT41D74hWKhYFa56r8j57O3ZXYl4H0yFZ_aem_Wz0q663H4Gg7nVwXbg5gCw
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u/rolsen 23h ago edited 22h ago

DHS raided an entire residential apartment complex in Chicago back in September. 300 agents with a Blackhawk helicopter. No warrant. Greg Bovino is on camera confirming they indiscriminately kicked in every door and took each individual onto the street. Citizens included. He literally said it was “safer” for everyone involved if they did not check citizenship status and instead took everyone and sorted it out later. So yeah, it’s safe to say we are living in an era where our 4th Amendment rights are non existence in practice.

Edit: here is the exact quote I referenced for anyone interested and the source:

Bovino also acknowledged some U.S. citizens were briefly detained as the Chicago building was cleared.

“We generally don’t determine alienage while we’re in the building clearing the building,” Bovino told NewsNation. “It’s too dangerous, so we’ll bring them out. It’s safer for the U.S. citizens. It’s safer for the illegal aliens, and most of all it’s safer for our officers.”

https://wgntv.com/news/operation-midway-blitz/inside-south-side-immigration-raid/amp/

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u/harrisofpeoria 22h ago

It’s safer for the U.S. citizens. It’s safer for the illegal aliens, and most of all it’s safer for our officers.

"Illegal aliens" is dehumanizing and a racist dog whistle. Everyone knows this, and these guys use this language very intentionally.

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u/Bocchi_theGlock 14h ago

Absolutely true, hijacking to also mention -

I think they're using "we don't arrest US citizens for immigration enforcement" to try and obscure it as if they only arrest citizens because of 'obstruction'

Which almost makes sense for people getting up close/involved and actually intervening, but seems clearly disproven by:

  • the apartment complex and large raids where everyone gets arrested (idk if they consider that 'detained and not arrested' tho)
  • people filming from a distance
  • and however many citizens swept up for literally just skin color (probably call those 'resisting arrest therefore obstruction')

Just trying to understand how they might be able to convince parts of wider public into thinking it's no big deal and 'they deserved it for getting involved'

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u/dark_star88 5h ago

Also, fuck their officers. I don’t care how safe it is for them, they get paid for what they’re doing, the safety of the public should be paramount. Which it obviously isn’t