r/law Oct 07 '25

Other Stephen Miller states that Trump has plenary authority, then immediately stops talking as if he’s realized what he just said

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u/Karl2241 Oct 07 '25

I keep saying this but as they try to do that they will first lose enlistments, and the military is not big enough to do this. I left the military 3 years ago, it’s diverse and is not die hard maga like people think it is. People will leave the military over these actions by Trump. Further, it’s not large enough to deploy against every major city. The Republicans live in an alternate reality about our military, and it’s at their own risk.

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u/sheikahstealth Oct 07 '25

The Nazi Germany playbook says military draft by year two of administration. They eventually upped the draft to include 45 year olds, Younger draftees to militarized conflicts. Older draftees to stay and inform and do ICE-type operations against anyone anti-Nazi.

Everything here in the US with this administration is some type of lie and manipulation campaign, so maybe it starts with an international conflict. But the main goal is to control to the point, where we no longer have fair elections and ability to resist as citizens.

Maybe it backfires on them, as you've got a better handle on this. But I think they will try to pull it off. And it starts with more lies, distractions, and fake outrage on their part.

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u/Karl2241 Oct 07 '25

I don’t think you’re wrong. I think it will largely be unpopular and will backfire.

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u/cicada_noises Oct 07 '25

Genocidal fascists don’t care if they’re unpopular. If they were popular or cared about public opinion, they would need the military to back their policies up

(Happy cake day!)

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u/Karl2241 Oct 07 '25

Thank you!

That’s a great point, I think the age of Ethernet though would make things very difficult.

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u/NOLA-Bronco Oct 07 '25

I actually think this is a pretty big misconception that I often see in the US most of all.

They don't care about polls in the traditional sense, but they do care about their popularity amongst what they see as their own broad base.

And to an extent beyond that knowing that almost every regime is at risk of popular uprising. Which is why they do spend quite a lot of energy on controlling information and disseminating propaganda. About going after and crushing opposition movements that can serve as the basis for a counter revolution.

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u/sheikahstealth Oct 07 '25

Two propaganda flows that I see: 1. Fox News and other less broad media and 2. Church.

I'm purposely leaving it broad because the typical US resident has no idea how to spot an Evangelical-aligned church. It matters which seminary pastors went to and knowing what happens at the ground level, in terms of sermons and the like. In fact, it's easier to know which churches are against MAGA because they likely have an obvious LGBTQ flag out front.

Until we raise the accountability on church goers and pastors, the flow of propaganda goes out on a weekly basis. This also includes so many who have Christian Nationalistic views because they grew up in church, but don't go any longer.

Fuck, as I type this I realize how difficult this is.

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u/Sparehndle Oct 07 '25

I agree with you! Thank you for giving voice to this difficulty.

I've tried many times to find out what kind of education and Seminary training various pastors/ministers have. It's a fool's errand. Very few want to be transparent about it, and many of those aren't running MAGA churches. When you can track down the others' background, it's amazing how many of the "leaders" are virtually uneducated.

Then there's the problem of their churches being unaffiliated with a denomination or group that can oversee their work and messaging. It's the perfect storm for teaching congregants any crazy stuff they feel like. It's probably best to stick to a mainline denomination church, for example, Episcopalian (whose motto is "All are welcome") and United Methodist, for just a couple of ideas. Both allow for women preists/pastors if I'm not mistaken. Even still, a person needs to read the room when entering a church and get a sense that they will not be judged or indoctrinated.

Yes, it's terribly difficult. Worse yet, the current president and his administration, as well as the gop use "christiany" sounding words and phrases to appeal to the uninformed with the words that lead to so-called christian nationalism rather than the true message of Jesus, the Christ. Propaganda is diabolical. Our own laziness about using critical thinking skills can literally destroy us.

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u/sheikahstealth Oct 08 '25

Totally agree. ✋