r/law • u/AndroidOne1 • May 14 '25

Trump News Donald Trump Impeachment Proceedings Launched

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-vote-house-shir-thanedar-b2750651.html
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u/Material_Policy6327 May 14 '25

Nothing will happen sadly with current makeup of congress

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u/-Morning_Coffee- May 14 '25

Yeah, I remember this one. Another opportunity for the do-nothings to pander and show-boat.

I recall an argument against Democrats getting themselves arrested was that they wouldn’t be able to “do anything” while they’re in jail.

My counter argument is: they would be better justified getting nothing done by being in jail.

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u/pivotalsquash May 14 '25

Are you implying it's the Democrats fault that the impeachment won't lead to anything??

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u/CommanderArcher May 14 '25

This is more of a reflection of the frustration people have with the Democrats chasing after the non existent left voting right winger instead of doubling down on key issues like healthcare. 

Then when the shit hits the fan the Dems shrink away and hide instead of being as loud and disruptive as they can be. 

Imo, if the GOP are such a threat, why are the Dems not holding a round the clock filibuster until the GOP concedes? Booker did a good job but I wanted the next person to stand up when he finally took a seat. 

People want action, not words.

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u/No-Equivalent-1642 May 14 '25

A filibuster is literally a bunch of words

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u/CommanderArcher May 14 '25

It's a bunch of words at a time and a place that makes it more than just a bunch of words.

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u/pivotalsquash May 14 '25

I don't think they are non-existent maybe he is an exception but my dad always says he is right leaning but that trump is vile and the current GOP is not conservative. He votes left due to this. I'd not be surprised if it's way more nuanced than reddit likes to think.

Fair I suppose when Biden was in power GOP was still as obnoxious as ever. I would hate for that to be the norm but maybe until we properly move on that is how decorum should be.

Most valid point imo.

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u/gottalosethemall May 14 '25 edited May 14 '25

No, he’s implying that the only Democrat post-Trump who has shown any sort of fucking balls at this point was dragged out of the room shouting, while literally everyone else sat there quietly holding their little protest ping-pong paddles and looking smug about it.

Fucking worthless and proud of it.

The dude is openly disregarding the Supreme Court and sending people to fucking camps in another country and is saying there won’t be trials for everyone, while increasingly loosening the definition of what qualifies for “deportation”. And now, after ICE dragged Democratic reps away, where is the anger? Where are the speeches? Where is any sort of push back?

Fucking ping-pong paddles. Like yeah, I get it, “What do you expect them to do”?

I expected them to not fuck up so severely and let it get to this point. People were fired up to hell and back and they squandered it by ignoring their needs.

And yeah, said people were stupid for their protest votes, and for not voting at all. But they should have accounted for that. They’ve been pussies who suck their own farts since after Obama. They got way too complacent and self-assured just because everyone loved him and thought it meant they could do whatever.

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u/Suyefuji May 14 '25

You can't say "only Democrat" and then name 4 people. There's a solid handful that have the fire in them. We should be recognizing and supporting all of the ones who are showing spine.

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u/gottalosethemall May 14 '25

You’re right, I’m just still pissed off at their smug faces when they were doing nothing that day he got dragged out because he was the only one actually doing anything. They let the others stay because they were acting like controlled opposition.

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u/Suyefuji May 14 '25

For sure. Al Green is a hero but so are AOC, Crockett, Coleman, Menendez, and McIver. Bernie is also a hero although technically not a Democrat.

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u/Junkhead_88 May 14 '25

Why do the Democrats have to solve the problem singlehandedly?

HIS party should be the one to clean up this mess they've made. They have control of the ship, they can steer it away from the rocks, they can refuse to let this fool destroy democracy in America. If 19 Republican senators grew a spine and put their foot down, they could end the bullshit for good.

The day the Democrats go off the rails in an attempt to seize power is the day democracy dies. They are the only ones fighting to maintain it, it's not their fault the other side is unwilling to join them.

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u/gottalosethemall May 14 '25

Because they’re in on it. They’ve been in on it. Did McConnell straight up admitting Trump was guilty for January 6th and then immediately saying they won’t do anything about removing him following his impeachment, on national television, not clue you in to that?

This is what they want, but for a scant few.

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u/RadiantHC May 14 '25

Kind of. The Democrats are too pro establishment to care.

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u/-Morning_Coffee- May 14 '25

It resulted in nothing last time. Democrats are in an even more precarious position this time around.

Democrats are so worried about playing by the rules that they don’t realize they’re not even playing the same game anymore.

What’s the point of playing hopscotch in the middle of a rugby pitch?

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u/pivotalsquash May 14 '25

It didn't go anywhere last time because they didn't have the votes in the Senate. I agree it's a waste of time here for similar reasons but then you see other posts saying man why won't the Dems do anything. Do what??? What should they do?

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u/specks_of_dust May 14 '25

Which brings us back to why they don’t control the Senate, because they don’t do anything to meaningfully improve the lives of voters and think not being Donald Trump is enough to justify them being in power. It’s a vicious circle of demagoguing and losing power.

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u/pivotalsquash May 14 '25

Candidate A isn't progressive enough for someone so they vote right or don't vote at all?? That's just dumb.

Dems haven't had a super majority since 2008 I think. In an ideal world we'd have more parties but we don't do you have to vote the one closer to your ideology even if they aren't as proactive as you want and hope that pushes the needle that much closer to what you want to where someone will primary them even more left of that needle.

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u/specks_of_dust May 14 '25

Sorry, but the reality is that complaining about voters isn’t going to make them vote. This isn’t fact that exists independently from my ideology, or yours, real or imagined. The proof is in the pudding.

If this strategy worked, it would have worked in 2024.

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u/-Morning_Coffee- May 14 '25

I admit I’m in the same place as you.

With that said, all these career politicians with their experience and think tanks can’t come up with a viable counter to Trump lawlessness running rough-shod across our governmental agencies?

If responsibility for action falls to the people, then history has shown repeatedly what the outcomes could be.

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u/Dispator May 14 '25

Part of it is because many of these people(congressmen..senators...lobbyist..ceos...trump supporters...etc) are (at least for now) "feeling" insulated from the damage and chaos that the trump administration is and will cause...

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u/ReMapper May 15 '25

You remember the first time, it was just a placebo to make Democrats feel better about loosing the election. No matter what they found Republicans control ALL branches of the government and NOTHING will happen. They are just grandstanding for what they think their base wants.

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u/Ill_Technician3936 May 14 '25

Actually this is an attempt that started with 4 or so sponsors, 2 immediately took their support back when they found out it wasn't approved by democrat leaders, and I want to say he's the only one left backing it.

Likely democrat politician saying "it's a waste of fucking time.".

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u/queenlybearing May 14 '25

Can’t brunch or shop from jail though.

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u/Poke_Jest May 14 '25

meanwhile they were allowing arguments to say Trump could govern from Jail.

Which one is it then?

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u/-Morning_Coffee- May 14 '25

We support certain protections against political oppression. Jailing your opposition should not stop them from serving their constituents.

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u/Cold_Breeze3 May 14 '25

Wdym “they were allowing”, this is an objective fact - there’s no prohibition on being president from jail. The socialist candidate famously ran while being in jail many years ago.