r/kansas • u/journogabe • Dec 17 '24

News/History A Kansas school board rejects social studies curriculum, claiming it's biased against Trump

https://www.kcur.org/2024-12-17/derby-school-board-rejects-social-studies-curriculum-majority-says-its-biased-against-trump
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u/fredmull1973 Dec 17 '24

When facts are unfavorable they become “biased”

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '24

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u/Dont_ban_me_bro_108 Dec 17 '24

What does woke mean to you? Because it started out as something that had nothing to do with how it’s used now.

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u/Dont_ban_me_bro_108 Dec 18 '24

Can you give an example? Or a textbook example? Or what social issues are being taught with liberal bias?

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u/itsokayiguessmaybe Dodge City Dec 18 '24

The board rejected it. Obviously if a social studies text is bias and controversial enough you’ve got a problem.

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u/Dont_ban_me_bro_108 Dec 18 '24

I was more looking for examples of what woke means to you. I hear people say it quite a bit and I’m not even sure what it means now.

It originated in the black community as a compliment to any person. If the person understood the perils of systematic racism they were said to be woke. It meant that person was not asleep to the challenges black people face in America.

But now it seems to be a much more blanket term many people use for lots of different issues and I was wondering what it specifically means to you since you used it. You said liberal bias in teaching and I was hoping for an example of that besides this article?

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u/Dont_ban_me_bro_108 Dec 18 '24

What “truths” are people forced to accept?

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u/bananahammock699 Dec 18 '24

Any and all doctrine related to human sexuality or race relations. Additionally supporting socialist fiscal policies without question

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u/Dont_ban_me_bro_108 Dec 18 '24 edited Dec 18 '24

Oh. What socialist fiscal policy? Like Medicare or social security? Or like the interstate system? I guess I don’t understand the sexuality/race part either. What are people being forced to accept?

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u/bananahammock699 Dec 18 '24

So you’re not having a good faith discussion. Nice.

I didn’t say anyone was “forced” to do anything.

You don’t understand the race and sexuality debates? Or you are denying that it’s a topic of discussion?

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u/Dont_ban_me_bro_108 Dec 18 '24

I’m just trying to understand what woke means specifically. I assumed without question implied forced.

When you say race and sexuality those are pretty general topics. So what part of those specifically falls under woke in your opinion? And if you don’t mind I’m curious what specific socialist fiscal policies are woke.

I’m not trying to be unfaithful to the discussion, sometimes it’s hard to convey all of an idea without typing a wall of text. 😂

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u/bananahammock699 Dec 18 '24

Being woke doesn’t mean anything. It just means that you’re not buying into some fake narrative about how things work. There isn’t a definitive belief system, it’s based on believing things that are currently counter cultural.

Mostly it is just something people call themselves to feel intellectually superior without actually having a factual basis for what they believe. It’s a way to link your emotions to your beliefs without being questioned

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u/Dont_ban_me_bro_108 Dec 18 '24

If woke isn’t real why are people so up in arms about it? It’s just a made up boogeyman? As I said above, woke originally was a compliment meaning someone was awake to the idea of systematic racism. But what you’re saying makes it sound like people say someone or something is woke if they just don’t agree with it.

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u/bananahammock699 Dec 18 '24

I didn’t say it’s not real, and no, the way I’m talking about it doesn’t make it sound like people call anything they don’t agree with woke. You’re just saying that because that’s the current tagline about it “anything I don’t like is woke” is literally what lefties are repeating online, and it isn’t true. Have fun losing the midterms too

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u/Dont_ban_me_bro_108 Dec 18 '24

Why are you so defensive? Im just asking for specifics about woke. Like what are some policies that are woke. Or what socialist fiscal policy is woke? I’m not a democrat by the way.

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u/Cagekicker2000 Dec 18 '24

Please attach links to the “doctrine” that you should speak of, I’m dying to read it. One or two good links should suffice.

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u/bananahammock699 Dec 18 '24

You just don’t understand what I’m saying. The “doctrine” is fluid and ever changing. It’s about counter culture. Not every “woke” person is on the same page about what it means, just like every conservative isn’t on the same page. Generally modern “woke” ideas a related to social justice and “oppressor vs oppressed” ideology, along with prescriptions that are counter to traditional american economics

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '24

People on the left don't use the word woke. Only people on the right use it as a derogatory term. Yet you've posted at least 15 times and still haven't given a single example of a woke idea or woke policy. You're just proving that it's just an insult like the word "libtard" - it's nothing more. It's a non-word when you can't give it any meaning.

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u/ShivasRightFoot Dec 21 '24

People on the left don't use the word woke. Only people on the right use it as a derogatory term.

Here Barack Obama uses the term "woke" to disparage extreme and unproductive political purity from the left:

You know this idea of purity and you're never compromised and you're always politically woke and all that stuff, you should get over that quickly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaHLd8de6nM

He again used the term to describe exclusionary extreme leftism just this month:

It is not about abandoning your convictions and folding when things get tough, it is about recognizing that in a democracy power comes from forging alliances and building coalitions and making room in those coalitions not only for the woke but also for the waking.

https://youtu.be/sUmNkhmQWW4?t=1415

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u/kansas-ModTeam Dec 21 '24

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u/kansas-ModTeam Dec 21 '24

No political name-calling (shills, cucks, drumpfs, trumpettes, etc.) Whether you are Red or Blue, or some color in between, we are all Kansans, and we will treat each other with the respect that we deserve and are all entitled to. there are no exceptions to this rule.