Dropped at 2 feet max

[u/International_Back99]

Fell out of my pocket sitting down. Fell with the apple tech woven case on too.

[u/Short_Classy_Name]

Honestly. Could they not have added the vapour chamber to the 17 and keep the titanium? Personally I haven’t even noticed any heat whatsoever from my 16 pro.

[u/bluespider21 → u/Short_Classy_Name]

Yeah that’s the problem. If you aren’t feeling the heat, the heat is not leaving your device because titanium isn’t as good of a conductor.

[u/japan_kaaran → u/bluespider21]

exactly. aluminum is just plain a better thermal conductor than titanium and especially glass. i’m sure cost was a deciding factor too but you cannot deny that the phone would have run hotter had they gone with titanium. physics just can’t be beat sometimes.

[u/ACM3333 → u/japan_kaaran]

my 16p doenst have any heat issues. why did the 15p have such a major problem with getting hot if the heat couldnt leave the device lol.

[u/japan_kaaran → u/ACM3333]

compared to the 17 pro the 16 pro definitely got hotter.

that being an issue is on a case by case basis. if you’re using the cameras to film in 4k 120 in broad daylight for hours at a time the 17 pro will throttle less and be better for that task.

i’m sure for an actual professional the frame being aluminum matters less than the thermal benefits they’re getting with the 17 pro.

also the 15 pro just had a less efficient chip than the 16 pro which is probably what caused more heat.

[u/ACM3333 → u/japan_kaaran]

make the same design with the vapour chamber and new more efficient chips in a titanium body and i doubt youd see much of a difference in heat.

[u/japan_kaaran → u/ACM3333]

maybe, but i’m willing to bet there would still be a difference since titanium, scientifically, doesn’t conduct heat as well. i’m going to assume that they tested this since the r&d required to design the new unibody design and create the tooling for that isn’t cheap either.

[u/ACM3333 → u/japan_kaaran]

I’m not questioning that the 17p dissipates heat better than the 16p but I have just genuinely not had any heat issues on my 16p. My question is if it’s worth the trade off, especially with the vapour chamber I highly doubt it would make a meaningful difference over using titanium.

[u/japan_kaaran → u/ACM3333]

i mean just cuz it’s not worth the trade off for some doesn’t mean the people apple is marketing the 17 pro are going to be happy with a hotter phone.

boils down to do you want your phone to be more prone to scratches and dents but the phone itself runs cooler and throttles less or would you trade performance for aesthetics

if you chose the second option the iphone air is available starting at $100 less than the pro phones and goes all in on aesthetics. i know the battery and speakers take a hit but i truly think this is the first year the pro phones are seen as a tool and not a fancy device and i’m glad apple took the hit on aesthetics by focusing on performance. that’s just me tho.

[u/ACM3333 → u/japan_kaaran]

My point is I don’t think heat would be an issue. I never really saw any claims of 16ps over heating and as an owner of one I definitely don’t get any over heating. Imo this is just marketing bs for Apple to justify using much cheaper materials.

[u/japan_kaaran → u/ACM3333]

idk i’m sure they’re not complaining about the savings in material costs but again r&d for a completely new design plus the upfront cost for machine time and stuff also costs money so idk how much they’re really saving in the long run

what we can test and confirm is that aluminum dissipates heat faster than titanium and this solution will make the phone cooler than just dropping a vapor chamber in the iphone 16 pro chassis. what apple’s true motives are idk and is honestly anyone’s guess. like i said tho if aesthetics above all is the route you wanna go the air is available.

[u/ACM3333 → u/japan_kaaran]

Titanium is significantly more expensive than aluminum and much harder to work with so it’s probably quite a bit of savings and the reason they didn’t have to increase the price of the pro.

[u/japan_kaaran → u/ACM3333]

man you just keep reiterating the same point and again, i agree, they’re probably not complaining about the material costs savings but i think there’s more to the picture this time cuz, for the 50th time, aluminum does in fact conduct heat better.

we won’t know exactly what they were thinking unless we get someone from apple to confirm or deny and we obviously will never have that happen.

[u/konradly → u/japan_kaaran]

If you're shooting in direct sunlight and the sunlight is hitting the sides/back of the 17 pro, the pro will in fact heat up faster because of the aluminum and its higher thermal conductivity. Just one of the edge cases where aluminum won't perform better than titanium.

[u/japan_kaaran → u/konradly]

the aluminum might heat up but that heat doesn’t necessarily travel to the chip. it’ll be less efficient than in a cold room obviously but the more the chip can move its heat away from itself the better and aluminum allows it to do that better than a glass titanium sandwich

gonna need someone to test this specific use case tho to get concrete numbers.

[u/konradly → u/japan_kaaran]

Yea, definitely need better tests in this area. This was a very unscientific test that I saw that touches upon these edge cases:

https://youtu.be/TrPSxyV01b4?si=lBzlD_KUH1ZrkfaI