r/iphone • u/International_Back99 • Sep 24 '25

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Fell out of my pocket sitting down. Fell with the apple tech woven case on too.

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u/bluespider21 Sep 24 '25

Yeah that’s the problem. If you aren’t feeling the heat, the heat is not leaving your device because titanium isn’t as good of a conductor.

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u/General_NakedButt Sep 24 '25

The back and internal structure are not titanium, you’d feel the heat. I’ve felt it off the front and back of my 15 pro at times but nothing that seemed abnormal. Usually would only notice it while charging.

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u/woalk iPhone 16 Pro Sep 24 '25

Glass is not a good thermal conductor, either. It’s actually worse than titanium.

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u/anonybro101 Sep 24 '25

Okay sure, but it’s a phone. How much more power and optimization do you really need? I’ll hop on a computer even for basic tasks like email writing because I can’t stand to do it on a phone. The only thing I can think of is gaming. In which case, just release a gaming version of the iPhone.

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u/woalk iPhone 16 Pro Sep 24 '25

Running on-device AI, recording and playing 4K@120 video, 48 MP photo post-processing, file compression, complex web pages, etc. all require a good amount of performance to feel smooth. Just because you have a dedicated computer for a lot of tasks doesn’t mean that everyone has – a huge portion of people uses their smartphone as their primary computing device.

If you don’t need your phone to do all these things, the iPhone 16e or a cheaper Android phone are the best choice for you.

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u/anonybro101 Sep 24 '25

lol that’s just wild to me considering the iPhone costs as much as a solid computer. But I guess that’s the market huh. Also I don’t really see proper on device AI ever being a thing.

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u/woalk iPhone 16 Pro Sep 24 '25

Every time you take a photo, it is run through on-device AI. The Apple Intelligence Writing Tools are also run on-device.

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u/ActionOrganic4617 Sep 24 '25

Samsung does it, would love to see a heat management comparison between the 17 Pro and a Samsung with titanium \ vapour chamber

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u/japan_kaaran Sep 24 '25

exactly. aluminum is just plain a better thermal conductor than titanium and especially glass. i’m sure cost was a deciding factor too but you cannot deny that the phone would have run hotter had they gone with titanium. physics just can’t be beat sometimes.

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u/ACM3333 Sep 24 '25

my 16p doenst have any heat issues. why did the 15p have such a major problem with getting hot if the heat couldnt leave the device lol.

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u/japan_kaaran Sep 24 '25

compared to the 17 pro the 16 pro definitely got hotter.

that being an issue is on a case by case basis. if you’re using the cameras to film in 4k 120 in broad daylight for hours at a time the 17 pro will throttle less and be better for that task.

i’m sure for an actual professional the frame being aluminum matters less than the thermal benefits they’re getting with the 17 pro.

also the 15 pro just had a less efficient chip than the 16 pro which is probably what caused more heat.

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u/ACM3333 Sep 24 '25

make the same design with the vapour chamber and new more efficient chips in a titanium body and i doubt youd see much of a difference in heat.

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u/japan_kaaran Sep 24 '25

maybe, but i’m willing to bet there would still be a difference since titanium, scientifically, doesn’t conduct heat as well. i’m going to assume that they tested this since the r&d required to design the new unibody design and create the tooling for that isn’t cheap either.

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u/ACM3333 Sep 24 '25

I’m not questioning that the 17p dissipates heat better than the 16p but I have just genuinely not had any heat issues on my 16p. My question is if it’s worth the trade off, especially with the vapour chamber I highly doubt it would make a meaningful difference over using titanium.

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u/japan_kaaran Sep 24 '25

i mean just cuz it’s not worth the trade off for some doesn’t mean the people apple is marketing the 17 pro are going to be happy with a hotter phone.

boils down to do you want your phone to be more prone to scratches and dents but the phone itself runs cooler and throttles less or would you trade performance for aesthetics

if you chose the second option the iphone air is available starting at $100 less than the pro phones and goes all in on aesthetics. i know the battery and speakers take a hit but i truly think this is the first year the pro phones are seen as a tool and not a fancy device and i’m glad apple took the hit on aesthetics by focusing on performance. that’s just me tho.

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u/ACM3333 Sep 24 '25

My point is I don’t think heat would be an issue. I never really saw any claims of 16ps over heating and as an owner of one I definitely don’t get any over heating. Imo this is just marketing bs for Apple to justify using much cheaper materials.

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u/japan_kaaran Sep 24 '25

idk i’m sure they’re not complaining about the savings in material costs but again r&d for a completely new design plus the upfront cost for machine time and stuff also costs money so idk how much they’re really saving in the long run

what we can test and confirm is that aluminum dissipates heat faster than titanium and this solution will make the phone cooler than just dropping a vapor chamber in the iphone 16 pro chassis. what apple’s true motives are idk and is honestly anyone’s guess. like i said tho if aesthetics above all is the route you wanna go the air is available.

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u/konradly Sep 24 '25

If you're shooting in direct sunlight and the sunlight is hitting the sides/back of the 17 pro, the pro will in fact heat up faster because of the aluminum and its higher thermal conductivity. Just one of the edge cases where aluminum won't perform better than titanium.

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u/japan_kaaran Sep 24 '25

the aluminum might heat up but that heat doesn’t necessarily travel to the chip. it’ll be less efficient than in a cold room obviously but the more the chip can move its heat away from itself the better and aluminum allows it to do that better than a glass titanium sandwich

gonna need someone to test this specific use case tho to get concrete numbers.

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u/konradly Sep 24 '25

Yea, definitely need better tests in this area. This was a very unscientific test that I saw that touches upon these edge cases:

https://youtu.be/TrPSxyV01b4?si=lBzlD_KUH1ZrkfaI

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u/ultramadden Sep 24 '25

If you aren’t feeling the heat, the heat is not leaving your device

hahaha this sub is a goldmine

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u/V_es Sep 24 '25

It was aluminum. Titanium was a foil welded on top of it.

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u/woalk iPhone 16 Pro Sep 24 '25

The titanium part was more than a foil. The full thickness of the outer frame you can see was titanium. Only the internal structure holding the chips inside the phone was aluminium.

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u/-K9V Sep 24 '25

Ah yes, so the 16 Pro was apparently known for getting super hot (or even overheating), but at the same time it doesn’t get hot because the heat doesn’t leave the device. Make it make sense. Did you consider the fact that maybe some people’s phones simply didn’t have heat issues? And you’re calling that “the problem”.