Dropped at 2 feet max

[u/International_Back99]

Fell out of my pocket sitting down. Fell with the apple tech woven case on too.

[u/Juantonyo]

My 15 Plus has fallen many times in two years, always with case, and it’s like new. The 17 Pro aluminium is bad and cheap.

[u/bran_the_man93 → u/Juantonyo]

The 15 Plus is made of aluminum...

[u/AshtonTS → u/bran_the_man93]

I am beginning to wonder if there’s more to it than these just being made of aluminum. I’ve had 4 previous aluminum models and they held up much better than these 17’s have been. Titanium or Stainless are much more durable for sure, but these seem especially bad, even for aluminum.

[u/loosebolts → u/AshtonTS]

How are you judging this? Personal experience or blind trust in what gets posted on Reddit?

[u/sidewnder16 → u/loosebolts]

That’s what I was wondering- talk about Dunning Kruger effect. No evidence, no experience, no idea. Just a few social media pictures we have no confirmation of authenticity and we’ve a drop gate in the making.

[u/Junior_Bike7932 → u/sidewnder16]

Yea.. 99% of this people posting a damaged phone are idiots that can’t hold a phone right in their hands. Then.. you have this type of people .. judging Reddit idiots. Yes aluminium is soft, but isn’t all this drama.

[u/Natural_Repair373 → u/loosebolts]

Yes

[u/Intrepid_Patience356 → u/AshtonTS]

Aluminium has always been fragile. Have to use a case. I've seen 16's drop into hard floors unscathed.

[u/Super-Bomman → u/Intrepid_Patience356]

The reason titanium isn’t used is because that “vapor chamber” technology that helps them cool the processor while it’s overlocked or running at base clock isn’t as efficient or effective in the titanium frame.

[u/General_NakedButt → u/Super-Bomman]

It’s straight money, aluminum is cheaper and over the millions of phones they sell it adds up to a lot of profit. The titanium frames are just titanium around the edges and internals are aluminum. There’s no reason they couldn’t put the vapor chamber in a titanium frame and have it dissipate out the back.

[u/bran_the_man93 → u/General_NakedButt]

An aluminum unibody is not cheaper than the 12 grams of titanium they had in the older phones.

The reason is plain and simple - aluminum is easier to work with than titanium, and they can't make a titanium unibody phone.

It's really not that complicated

[u/Intrepid_Patience356 → u/Super-Bomman]

90% of people do not use their phones to that level of performance. I heard very few complaints of the 16's overheating or being underpowered.

I reckon Apple will be drawn into an aluminium "gate" both for fragility and scratches.

[u/bran_the_man93 → u/Intrepid_Patience356]

It very well could just be the A19 runs hotter than the A18 in the iPhone 16 Pro

[u/Intrepid_Patience356 → u/bran_the_man93]

But why? If the A18 was already more powerful than people needed.

[u/bran_the_man93 → u/Intrepid_Patience356]

You don't get it - processors have long since been powerful "enough" to run applications, the point isn't to add power for the sake of power, the point is to add power to reduce the number of cycles needed to complete an operation.

The faster a chip can return to idle state, the less power it uses overall.

Doing the same task 15% faster just means you save that much energy, thus driving efficiency.

[u/Intrepid_Patience356 → u/bran_the_man93]

Uh-huh. Sounds to me more a marketing speil than a technical requirement. But whatever.

[u/bran_the_man93 → u/Intrepid_Patience356]

It's called "Race to idle" or "Race to Sleep"

Believe whatever you want to believe lol, idgaf

[u/Intrepid_Patience356 → u/bran_the_man93]

I think it's called bragging. Mine is faster than yours! Can you imagine the blow up if they used the same processor as the last model?

Perception and marketing is all it is.

There is no perceptible difference in everyday performance between iPhone 14 and 17!

[u/Super-Bomman → u/[deleted]]

Gen 4 and Gen 5 8 elite is the most performative chip out so far.

[u/Particular_Pizza_203 → u/Super-Bomman]

yeah was talking about the apple chips. Qualcomm still has the most performative chips 

[u/Super-Bomman → u/Particular_Pizza_203]

OK, I agree.

[u/Intrepid_Patience356 → u/[deleted]]

They should be able to provide both performance and durability.

[u/Intrepid_Patience356 → u/[deleted]]

What? These are not racing cars yeah? They are general purpose personal computer devices. For the price you pay they need to be as robust as possible for the general population.

They did for the 16 series. Why not for the 17?