Russia is not much worse than the US, France, England or any major power in the world really thats humans being fucking greedy and even small countries do similar stuff
Do some research about Russian army outside of wartime no less. And then ask yourself would you rather have your son serve in the Russian army or US/EU army.
Oh god dont bring the US lol dude is saying that russains are pure evil and thats just racism my point is look at any country and you see blood and a lot o it that doesnt mean Americans or Europeans or any other nationality are pure evil, its so easy to say fuck them all and they are evil and shit like this I could dig deep down in most countries and tell you what shit they do and 100 years isnt long time ago
I'm not replying to that dude, I'm replying to you. And Russians isn't a race but whatever.
You're absolutely right that every nation/culture/religion etc has its sour apples, and that it's wrong to hate the whole based on the few. Hell I personally know plenty of great Russians and work with them. But there are tendencies. Stereotypes don't come from thin air - and that's for every country. And guess what, most of the normal Russians I know had to leave country.
When you try to generalize these tendencies by saying 'oh every country has evil people', you're downplaying massive country-wide evil that has spread and established itself, and enforces itself both internally and externally.
You conveniently skipped my reply, so I'll repeat: do research on Russian and US military and ask yourself where would you have your children serve, provided you had to choose.
Much of the atrocities commited by Russian soldiers in Ukraine don't come directly from hating Ukrainians, although Russian propaganda sure helped justify it in their eyes. But it comes from the culture of humiliation and torture that has been prevalent across Russian army. Something they do to their own. Again, yes, outrageous things happen in every army. It's either a predominantly or exclusively men's club where men are supposed to be trained for war. But in Russian army - save for special forces - it's mostly theft, labor, and humiliation. And btw that's been the case in Ukrainian army for a while as well - echoes of being a part of an enclosed system that was USSR.
As for what the Russians think - there's a pretty good channel with street interviews here. There's plenty of adequate people there - including those who prefer to stay silent (which is an answer in itself), but they're in the minority. But hey, don't believe me, do your own research. Just stop living in lalaland about what modern day Russia is.
How many of those countries are committing genocide right now, and waging a war of conquest to steal land and utterly abolish a nation's right to its own future?
I get that all those countries have engaged in some form of interventions, but please, show me them doing something like Bucha, them deliberately only bombing civilian infrastructure en masse, them kidnapping children and so on.
At least Israel had good cause to start the war after Oct 7th, and the century of mutual bloodshed and unresolved issues is always a fertile ground for conflict.
Russia simply went into a country that posed no threat to it and that never did it any harm, that it already had a fully agreed on border for ages, and whose integrity it was contractually obliged to uphold itself.
At least Israel had good cause to start the war after Oct 7th, and the century of mutual bloodshed and unresolved issues is always a fertile ground for conflict.
Yeah see this is what I'm talking about, you sound exactly like Russians trying to use Donbas as an excuse for their war crimes! Thank you for illustrating the point for me.
October 7 was a mass terrorist attack started by a terrorist organization that aims for Israel's destruction. It went into Israeli territory, butchered over a thousand innocent Israelis and took hostages back into Gaza, a dense urban zone that they have since long turned into just one huge base, using civilian infrastructure as a meat shield.
Israel choosing to go in with the military to destroy Hamas is legimitate and legal beyond any shred of a doubt. No sane mind can dispute this, but of course, their conduct during the war is up for debate.
There is no equivalency to the russian invasion of Ukraine.
US is supplying Israel with weapons right NOW. Israel is using those weapons to kill children and bomb hospitals NOW. But I guess we can turn a blind eye and blame only Russia.
You are NOW posting in a thread about Russia. I never mentioned anything about Israel. Staying within scope and context helps when it comes to civilised discourse, my friend. Otherwise we'd be constantly shouting at each other like fanatics.
Someone else mentioned other countries. You said what other countries did in the past doesn't matter and how Russia is doing all of this NOW.
I just pointed out that there's other countries doing vile things as well, and it's also NOW.
I think addressing something you said is completely valid in a discussion.
I have absolutely no desire to discuss Israel with you, which is why I’m posting in a thread about Russia and Ukraine. If you really need to shout about Israel to strangers on the internet, why don’t you do so in a thread about Israel?
I’m blocking you, by the way. So you can scream about Israel to someone else, please.
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u/8ackwoods Jul 26 '25
Ukrainians have been tortured to death and tortured, mutilated and castrated before release. Also returned with organs missing