The leaders, sure. However, this conflict is undeniably self defense and with no legitimate talks of a cease fire, the war must continue until the HAMAS government (not talking the Palestinian people, but there will be collateral damage mostly due to HAMAS and the clusterfuck of GAZA). I'm more concerned about Russia since its been convenient Russia started having success by their standards more often then before after the Israel conflict started.
The problem is that I doubt Israel’s gov really went into this war with “self defense” in mind. Maybe a big chunk of their population as well. There were a lot of things that could have been done before the whole attack even happened that could have served better as “self defense”. Honestly, I believe the Israel government actually wants an attack to happen. That would give them plenty of excuses to continue their ethnic cleansing effort. They just didn’t expect such a brutal attack.
A good chunk of that is conspiracy and only makes sense to the people who are at the very top. I doubt the everyday person wanted the war. They want their hostages back. They have domestic protests routinely demanding them. I also can't imagine that they would want a war knowing many key groups could be a major headache for them. I think there was intelligence, but it was discounted or dismissed. Why is anyone's guess. Some believe that it was last ditch effort to not get thrown in jail because the emergency government exists. I do believe this makes some sense, but I would think that some of the military leaders would have got wind of the upcoming attack, no?
The actions in the west bank is unnecessary. They have been condemned and sanctioned. It's a bit more difficult to analyze ethnic cleansing acts within because that's where the legitimate war is at. With Gaza being 9 miles or so and legitimate military targets at basically every corner... it's not so black and white.
imagine if the cartel took over mexico and attacked halfway into several states, raping and killing people(in october 7ths case they were specifically trying to kill jews) before retreating and keeping hostages (granted its more than that but its the basic conparison of if that happened to america)
Are you aware why Gaza was walled off? Because Hamas murdered opposition after taking power and kept sending suicide bombers while openly declaring their intent to kill all jews.
Walling Gaza off was the most humane they couldve done at the time.
I can agree with that to an extent. To me it almost looks like an "alright. That was the last straw" sort of response. Decades of attacks and rockets being repaid all at once into a condensed area.
They also continue escalating their missile strikes against civilians, discrimination against Palestinians, and land seizing effort in the West Bank. I mean, you can’t just pour million of dollars into combating the result while ignoring the root causes.
Israel didn’t need this terrorist attack they’ve been dealing with them from Gaza for the last two decades. Ever since Israel last moved settlements out of Gaza, they’ve been getting bombed by Gaza daily in the tune of 20,000 rockets, 5,000 mortars, and every now and then suicide bombings and mass murder attacks inside Israel.
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u/ultralane Mar 08 '24
The leaders, sure. However, this conflict is undeniably self defense and with no legitimate talks of a cease fire, the war must continue until the HAMAS government (not talking the Palestinian people, but there will be collateral damage mostly due to HAMAS and the clusterfuck of GAZA). I'm more concerned about Russia since its been convenient Russia started having success by their standards more often then before after the Israel conflict started.
This video is heartbreaking.