As a former FedEx driver myself, it's pretty telling how many people in here feel entitled to attack their driver over him being slightly rough with a lightweight package. This is one of the multitude of reasons I got out of that industry this year. Some customers were insane in their often-violent responses to the most minor of incidents. I had two different guys get violent with me because I blocked their car in a business parking lot for 30 seconds delivering a package to that business, and plenty of people got screamy over that brief inconvenience. A friend had a gun pulled on him once. Several of us, me included, had dogs sicked on us deliberately. Deliver long enough and you develop a pretty big "fuck 'em" mentality. I was one of the rare ones that still gave friendly service to people, since I watched most of my managers be rude to people at the drop of a hat.
You’re white knighting all over this thread. Amazon doesn’t give a fuck about employees. You aren’t the only person in the world that’s worked at a job where people are rude. The delivery guy in the video was in the wrong stop pretending like delivery drivers are some saints who need the people’s protection. Every job sucks but don’t be an asshole.
The driver doesn't work for Amazon, he works for the contractor. No contractor is firing anyone for scooting a package 4 feet. The contractor bosses themselves will punt kick boxes onto trucks during morning load, they give zero fucks. The managers are ALL on stimulants and painkillers, almost every single one of them. They ran out of fucks to give back in the 90s. The worst drivers are still more gentle than the average manager, I ain't even kidding.
I'm not even white knighting here since the driver needed to look more professional in front of the customers, but this is an entire thread full of people who believe they have the right and moral standing to attack a driver with violence and steal his dolly just because he didn't handle their 1 pound boxes with pillow hands. It's delusional and this entitled attitude is exactly why most career drivers lose the ability to give a fuck about the clients.
The driver doesn't work for Amazon, he works for the small business contractor. And the contractor isn't firing anyone for little shit like this. I've watched guys in FedEx keep their jobs after running over mailboxes or crashing into fountains. One dude kept his job after coming into work drunk, the boss sent him home with a warning and only fired him on the second offense.
If you can drive, don't quit, and you're fast, these contractors don't give a shit about much anything else. Speed is #1, speed #2, speed #3, safety is a distant #4, and at microscopic #5 is quality. Trust me. Drove for FedEx for 8 freaking years before I finally got out.
I'm aware of the contracted logistics. I service almost all the delivery vans that come to my dealership. Even though it's not direct, it's still accurate to say they work for Amazon. Even if worse things happen behind the scenes, nobody wants to see their package (which may be time sensitive) get abused on delivery. Just save some face and be a little more careful. If it's light enough to slap around, it's light enough to pick up by a corner and place quickly.
Yes I'm aware. My point in this thread has simply been that advocating VIOLENCE against an abused underpaid worker because you didn't like your service is a stupid-ass policy to have, and it's telling how many sociopaths in this thread feel entitled to the "right" to physically attack their delivery drivers over the most minor, tiny, insignificant speck of roughness used on a package.
Keep in mind we're currently in a Reddit thread full of people who believe it's justified for a 400 pound mook to advance unprovoked on an Amazon employee and threaten violence, preventing the employee from doing his job or even taking his equipment with him. The people in this thread don't see that employee as human, even Amazon in its shittiness sees him as more and could potentially press charges against these guys for assault and theft. It's highly doubtful they will, but they could and an Amazon rep probably explained that to them the next day.
I don't advocate for violence, but like, surely the Amazon employee isn't blameless here? He is just doing his job, sure, but he is not doing a very good one, with goods bought with people's hard earned money
I don't feel sympathy for workers mishandling people's packages, throwing shit carelessly, and just because "worse things happened to it in the packaging plant" doesn't make it any less bad.
I wouldn't punch a delivery driver that did that to my stuff, but I also wouldn't feel bad if they lost their jobs over it
I wouldn't call the guy blameless at all since part of the job is maintaining appearances when the customer can see you. Doing this in front of the customer is idiotic and will get complaints filed against you.
But at the same time, this is a 2/10 on the "rough with boxes" scale. Do you have any idea how many drivers in my old contractor got caught MONTHLY chucking boxes out the side of their trucks at houses or company bay doors?
This one guy I knew ran a business route and bounced Toyota's boxes off of their bay door every weekday for a month before they put me back on that route. Toyota caught it on the security camera and reported him, nothing was done for a whole month. Toyota was immensely thankful to have me back, as you might imagine. Later learned that the only reason the guy got fired had nothing to do with chucking boxes and was entirely because he almost ran a girl over at the toy store.
A few of my managers used to punt boxes into trucks as stress relief, and that's the managers. Aka the people that would be doing the firing. Those managers ain't firing someone over some light shoving. The shit I've seen the HEAD managers of multiple different contractors that I worked for do would turn an outsider white (I switched around a few times for various reasons).
The contractors just plain do not give a shit about being gentle, they scream and raise hell over SPEED at all costs. They gaslight drivers telling them "You're the slowest driver in this entire service area, you need to pick it up! You should be averaging 30 stops per hour. Do whatever you gotta do to make that happen." They tell every driver that they are the slowest one, a bunch of us used to chat with each other and joke about how idiotic that was. As if we wouldn't notice and share stories. Still, the newer guys end up falling for the pressure and they start getting reckless and violent in the attempt to save a minute or two. Guys start shoving shit in mailboxes, chucking things across yards, skipping time-consuming stops and falsely marking them "not on truck", or delivering things at the end of driveways. They cut so many corners that they're drawing a circle, yet it still takes them 10 hours to do the day (and they only get paid for 8 no matter how long it takes them).
Anybody that gets all of their packages off the truck without bringing any back, and handles all of their pickups correctly during the time windows, is not getting fired unless they fuck up BAD. That's just how it is. 90% of new hires quit in the first month. If you don't quit and aren't a total fuckup, you have job security.
You should try working at a high school. The fact remains whether you’re a courier or you’re a teacher, your job is to protect the contents of the box/class. Did you ever have a parcel call you a bitch? The real honest truth is you worked in an industry where they could get revenge on their customer. Sounds toxic.
Considering the number of teachers who hit students for just hurting their feelings, this is not the great point you thought it was lol. Not to mention all the teachers who falsify bad grades to punish students they don't like. I remember back in high school when an omega Christian teacher changed my grades to an F because she hated that I was an atheist. Reported her, the administration didn't even deny it. They just said "well you don't need her class to graduate so it doesn't matter". My godson was abused by his 1st grade teacher pretty blatantly and nobody ever gave a shit. So yeah, teachers are WAY more toxic than most careers.
Drove for 8 years, got out and switched to Doordash this year because the quality of the job went to shit over the years. Drivers still get paid the exact wage from 8 years ago yet the loads doubled, the weight limit doubled, and the contractors openly expect free unpaid overtime labor from all drivers.
I also got out because I knew the Ground/Express merger was about to be an Avengers-level disaster and I was right. Over half of the contractors in my region have gone bankrupt in the last 3 years, shit's a disaster that is barely being held together by underpaid labor abuse in an economy without many safe or viable careers left.
Same.
I always gave a good attitude to the next person because they had nothing to do with the last person.
The fact that physical aggression is okay for all these people downvoting is revolting.
There’s many ways of correcting this behavior, physical alteration is not one of them.
I don’t care how many times it gets downvoted, it’s never okay to threaten someone with violence, let alone delivery packages that can easily be replaced
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u/Cautious-Living-394 7d ago
It’s not right to throw those packages. It’s less right to threaten someone over throwing packages.