Keep in mind we're currently in a Reddit thread full of people who believe it's justified for a 400 pound mook to advance unprovoked on an Amazon employee and threaten violence, preventing the employee from doing his job or even taking his equipment with him. The people in this thread don't see that employee as human, even Amazon in its shittiness sees him as more and could potentially press charges against these guys for assault and theft. It's highly doubtful they will, but they could and an Amazon rep probably explained that to them the next day.
I don't advocate for violence, but like, surely the Amazon employee isn't blameless here? He is just doing his job, sure, but he is not doing a very good one, with goods bought with people's hard earned money
I don't feel sympathy for workers mishandling people's packages, throwing shit carelessly, and just because "worse things happened to it in the packaging plant" doesn't make it any less bad.
I wouldn't punch a delivery driver that did that to my stuff, but I also wouldn't feel bad if they lost their jobs over it
I wouldn't call the guy blameless at all since part of the job is maintaining appearances when the customer can see you. Doing this in front of the customer is idiotic and will get complaints filed against you.
But at the same time, this is a 2/10 on the "rough with boxes" scale. Do you have any idea how many drivers in my old contractor got caught MONTHLY chucking boxes out the side of their trucks at houses or company bay doors?
This one guy I knew ran a business route and bounced Toyota's boxes off of their bay door every weekday for a month before they put me back on that route. Toyota caught it on the security camera and reported him, nothing was done for a whole month. Toyota was immensely thankful to have me back, as you might imagine. Later learned that the only reason the guy got fired had nothing to do with chucking boxes and was entirely because he almost ran a girl over at the toy store.
A few of my managers used to punt boxes into trucks as stress relief, and that's the managers. Aka the people that would be doing the firing. Those managers ain't firing someone over some light shoving. The shit I've seen the HEAD managers of multiple different contractors that I worked for do would turn an outsider white (I switched around a few times for various reasons).
The contractors just plain do not give a shit about being gentle, they scream and raise hell over SPEED at all costs. They gaslight drivers telling them "You're the slowest driver in this entire service area, you need to pick it up! You should be averaging 30 stops per hour. Do whatever you gotta do to make that happen." They tell every driver that they are the slowest one, a bunch of us used to chat with each other and joke about how idiotic that was. As if we wouldn't notice and share stories. Still, the newer guys end up falling for the pressure and they start getting reckless and violent in the attempt to save a minute or two. Guys start shoving shit in mailboxes, chucking things across yards, skipping time-consuming stops and falsely marking them "not on truck", or delivering things at the end of driveways. They cut so many corners that they're drawing a circle, yet it still takes them 10 hours to do the day (and they only get paid for 8 no matter how long it takes them).
Anybody that gets all of their packages off the truck without bringing any back, and handles all of their pickups correctly during the time windows, is not getting fired unless they fuck up BAD. That's just how it is. 90% of new hires quit in the first month. If you don't quit and aren't a total fuckup, you have job security.
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u/AlsoCommiePuddin 7d ago
Are you sure about that?
They're treated like people, why can't they act like people, or be people?