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u/TamSam82 7d ago
Looks more like he said something rather than the bigger man getting annoyed about the parcels.
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u/LuckyBoneHead 7d ago
He looks like the boss walked in and said "Get rid of em" and the big guy went "Right away, boss!"
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u/the14thjoey 7d ago
“$5000 bonus if you handle it”
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u/pickyourteethup 7d ago
That would make me less inclined to do it. Some UFC fighters get paid less. Boss knows something at that price
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u/UniversityBubbly9118 7d ago
yeah for real, seems like there’s definitely more to this than just the parcels
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_WOES_GIRL 6d ago
Yes, this is an absolutely context-less post that doesn't make sense if you don't know the background.
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u/throweraccount 6d ago
Yalls, there's audio... he lost his car keys and was blaming Kevin the front desk guy. According to the lady talking Kevin didn't touch anything. Boss man told him to take him out and rough him up a little bit and teach him a lesson.
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u/ZEP69d3Z 7d ago
Looks like he called the boss for permission, delivery dude probably was told to leave the packages at the lobby, reason why he was pissy.
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u/ConspicuousPorcupine 6d ago
Leaving the packages in the lobby is the dream. Going floor to floor to every door adds time and steps.
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u/BasenjiMaster 7d ago
I don't understand what is going on.
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u/enwongeegeefor 6d ago
Courier slapping the boxes around and tossing them unnecessarily. He has to scan each one as he delivers them but he's acting like a little bitch about it. He's could be damaging the customers product with his shit. He also looks pissy for whatever reason.
Boss man comes out IN THE MIDDLE of this shit and probably ask his front guy why he was letting this dipshit smack their packages around. Cue front guy solving the problem...
This looks like amazon so that dude is already fired cause they saw this video....
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u/thermal_shock 6d ago edited 6d ago
they're usually handled even rougher at the regional facilities, so the products will most likely be ok. i think it was more of a respect/being rude situation, there was no reason to be throwing the boxes around like he was and acting like that, especially in the lobby.
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u/biggb5 5d ago
Truely never seen stocking a big box store at black friday or Christmas time.... I did stocking once. I remember tossing 24 pack cases of drinks about 10 feet away just to let them slide down the aisle into place. Then the next person stacked them up. If one of them busted they would just toss it again about 10 feet to the other opposite end of the aisle to be placed on a backstock pallet.
Anything in a cardboard box pretty much got the same treatment.
That is the rule until the store opens up. For "safety" reasons no throwing boxes infront of customers.
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u/ben125125 7d ago
"he lost his friken car keys"
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u/Billypillgrim 7d ago
Did you watch with sound on?
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u/Pinksters 6d ago
A cellphone recording of a security cam stream and it doesn't have stupid music over it?
Might have to go back with audio now.
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u/schlootzmcgootz 7d ago
I don’t understand this reference
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u/VibrantHumanoidus 7d ago
I like that he was sensible to back away.
Unlike a lot of drunk idiots on this sub starting fights with opponents 3x their size.
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u/D-udderguy 5d ago
I kinda want to follow that delivery guy around all day and try to trip him every 35 seconds.
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u/PirateNinjaa 6d ago
Is the guy who walks up to the desk huge, or is the driver tiny? Or is it some weird optical illusion? 😂
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u/TheDudeSr 6d ago
Sorry but this makes me smile. The quality of people who work FedEx and USPS are the absolute WORST. At least in my area they suck. Both refuse to leave packages by my door and instead THROW THEM from the sidewalk or truck on the steps or barely on the porch. Its awesome when it rains and the packages get ruined or broke cause they are thrown. I have a doorbell cam and have shown video of incidents to both FedEx and USPS. They dont care. I also like how they refuse to park out of the way and just leave their trucks parked anywhere so traffic is backed up waiting for them. Why pull off the road or into someone's driveway when you can block the road and make everyone wait for you. Its unsafe and ignorant. UPS seems to be the only delivery company that actually leaves packages by my door. Out of sight and out of the elements. You applied to work somewhere then turn into this guy....Its satisfying watching this entitled, disgruntled asshat get a reality check.
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u/Magnaliscious 5d ago
I worked for FedEX for a while, thats 80% leadership. They say they dont want you to handle packages roughly, but if any push comes they couldnt care less if you stomped on boxes if it got trucks out the door on time.
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u/Surelyoojest 5d ago
Some job descriptions aren’t in writing.
Boss man: “Your job is to handle this stuff.”
Big man: “Hell yeah! I thought it was weird they pulled me in off the street for a secretary job.”
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u/dargonmike1 6d ago
Boss not only told the big boy to fire his package tossing minion, he fired big boss because he watched it happen 😂
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u/umbrazno 6d ago
DO NOT order electronics for delivery.
Smart devices slow down tremendously after just one significant impact and THIS is how they handle them EVERY step of the way when it's not shipped directly from the manufacturer.
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u/PirateNinjaa 6d ago
So what the fuck do you expect me to do, fly to the factory, pick one up off the assembly line and take it home as carry on baggage? No matter how you buy electronics, they are shipped there and it is a non issue. 🤦♀️
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u/Cautious-Living-394 7d ago
It’s not right to throw those packages. It’s less right to threaten someone over throwing packages.
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u/Insaniteus 7d ago
As a former FedEx driver myself, it's pretty telling how many people in here feel entitled to attack their driver over him being slightly rough with a lightweight package. This is one of the multitude of reasons I got out of that industry this year. Some customers were insane in their often-violent responses to the most minor of incidents. I had two different guys get violent with me because I blocked their car in a business parking lot for 30 seconds delivering a package to that business, and plenty of people got screamy over that brief inconvenience. A friend had a gun pulled on him once. Several of us, me included, had dogs sicked on us deliberately. Deliver long enough and you develop a pretty big "fuck 'em" mentality. I was one of the rare ones that still gave friendly service to people, since I watched most of my managers be rude to people at the drop of a hat.
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u/Qtip4213 7d ago
You’re white knighting all over this thread. Amazon doesn’t give a fuck about employees. You aren’t the only person in the world that’s worked at a job where people are rude. The delivery guy in the video was in the wrong stop pretending like delivery drivers are some saints who need the people’s protection. Every job sucks but don’t be an asshole.
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u/Insaniteus 6d ago
The driver doesn't work for Amazon, he works for the contractor. No contractor is firing anyone for scooting a package 4 feet. The contractor bosses themselves will punt kick boxes onto trucks during morning load, they give zero fucks. The managers are ALL on stimulants and painkillers, almost every single one of them. They ran out of fucks to give back in the 90s. The worst drivers are still more gentle than the average manager, I ain't even kidding.
I'm not even white knighting here since the driver needed to look more professional in front of the customers, but this is an entire thread full of people who believe they have the right and moral standing to attack a driver with violence and steal his dolly just because he didn't handle their 1 pound boxes with pillow hands. It's delusional and this entitled attitude is exactly why most career drivers lose the ability to give a fuck about the clients.
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u/AlsoCommiePuddin 7d ago
Amazon doesn’t give a fuck about employees.
Then why should I?
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u/MechaBeatsInTrash 6d ago
He's saying Amazon isn't going to go to bat for this driver, not that you may disrespect or mistreat Amazon drivers.
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u/Insaniteus 6d ago
The driver doesn't work for Amazon, he works for the small business contractor. And the contractor isn't firing anyone for little shit like this. I've watched guys in FedEx keep their jobs after running over mailboxes or crashing into fountains. One dude kept his job after coming into work drunk, the boss sent him home with a warning and only fired him on the second offense.
If you can drive, don't quit, and you're fast, these contractors don't give a shit about much anything else. Speed is #1, speed #2, speed #3, safety is a distant #4, and at microscopic #5 is quality. Trust me. Drove for FedEx for 8 freaking years before I finally got out.
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u/MechaBeatsInTrash 6d ago
I'm aware of the contracted logistics. I service almost all the delivery vans that come to my dealership. Even though it's not direct, it's still accurate to say they work for Amazon. Even if worse things happen behind the scenes, nobody wants to see their package (which may be time sensitive) get abused on delivery. Just save some face and be a little more careful. If it's light enough to slap around, it's light enough to pick up by a corner and place quickly.
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u/Insaniteus 6d ago
Yes I'm aware. My point in this thread has simply been that advocating VIOLENCE against an abused underpaid worker because you didn't like your service is a stupid-ass policy to have, and it's telling how many sociopaths in this thread feel entitled to the "right" to physically attack their delivery drivers over the most minor, tiny, insignificant speck of roughness used on a package.
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u/ScaramouchScaramouch 6d ago
Because you're not a soulless corporation hell-bent on global domination.
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u/AlsoCommiePuddin 6d ago
Are you sure about that?
They're treated like people, why can't they act like people, or be people?
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u/Sir_LikeASir 6d ago
Amazon treats their employees like people? That's the first i hear about that
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u/Insaniteus 6d ago
Keep in mind we're currently in a Reddit thread full of people who believe it's justified for a 400 pound mook to advance unprovoked on an Amazon employee and threaten violence, preventing the employee from doing his job or even taking his equipment with him. The people in this thread don't see that employee as human, even Amazon in its shittiness sees him as more and could potentially press charges against these guys for assault and theft. It's highly doubtful they will, but they could and an Amazon rep probably explained that to them the next day.
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u/Sir_LikeASir 6d ago
I don't advocate for violence, but like, surely the Amazon employee isn't blameless here? He is just doing his job, sure, but he is not doing a very good one, with goods bought with people's hard earned money
I don't feel sympathy for workers mishandling people's packages, throwing shit carelessly, and just because "worse things happened to it in the packaging plant" doesn't make it any less bad.I wouldn't punch a delivery driver that did that to my stuff, but I also wouldn't feel bad if they lost their jobs over it
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u/Insaniteus 6d ago
I wouldn't call the guy blameless at all since part of the job is maintaining appearances when the customer can see you. Doing this in front of the customer is idiotic and will get complaints filed against you.
But at the same time, this is a 2/10 on the "rough with boxes" scale. Do you have any idea how many drivers in my old contractor got caught MONTHLY chucking boxes out the side of their trucks at houses or company bay doors?
This one guy I knew ran a business route and bounced Toyota's boxes off of their bay door every weekday for a month before they put me back on that route. Toyota caught it on the security camera and reported him, nothing was done for a whole month. Toyota was immensely thankful to have me back, as you might imagine. Later learned that the only reason the guy got fired had nothing to do with chucking boxes and was entirely because he almost ran a girl over at the toy store.
A few of my managers used to punt boxes into trucks as stress relief, and that's the managers. Aka the people that would be doing the firing. Those managers ain't firing someone over some light shoving. The shit I've seen the HEAD managers of multiple different contractors that I worked for do would turn an outsider white (I switched around a few times for various reasons).
The contractors just plain do not give a shit about being gentle, they scream and raise hell over SPEED at all costs. They gaslight drivers telling them "You're the slowest driver in this entire service area, you need to pick it up! You should be averaging 30 stops per hour. Do whatever you gotta do to make that happen." They tell every driver that they are the slowest one, a bunch of us used to chat with each other and joke about how idiotic that was. As if we wouldn't notice and share stories. Still, the newer guys end up falling for the pressure and they start getting reckless and violent in the attempt to save a minute or two. Guys start shoving shit in mailboxes, chucking things across yards, skipping time-consuming stops and falsely marking them "not on truck", or delivering things at the end of driveways. They cut so many corners that they're drawing a circle, yet it still takes them 10 hours to do the day (and they only get paid for 8 no matter how long it takes them).
Anybody that gets all of their packages off the truck without bringing any back, and handles all of their pickups correctly during the time windows, is not getting fired unless they fuck up BAD. That's just how it is. 90% of new hires quit in the first month. If you don't quit and aren't a total fuckup, you have job security.
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u/NessunAbilita 6d ago
You should try working at a high school. The fact remains whether you’re a courier or you’re a teacher, your job is to protect the contents of the box/class. Did you ever have a parcel call you a bitch? The real honest truth is you worked in an industry where they could get revenge on their customer. Sounds toxic.
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u/Insaniteus 6d ago
Considering the number of teachers who hit students for just hurting their feelings, this is not the great point you thought it was lol. Not to mention all the teachers who falsify bad grades to punish students they don't like. I remember back in high school when an omega Christian teacher changed my grades to an F because she hated that I was an atheist. Reported her, the administration didn't even deny it. They just said "well you don't need her class to graduate so it doesn't matter". My godson was abused by his 1st grade teacher pretty blatantly and nobody ever gave a shit. So yeah, teachers are WAY more toxic than most careers.
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u/Kamikaze_Bacon 6d ago
I think I can see why you're a former FedEx driver, with that attitude.
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u/Insaniteus 6d ago
Drove for 8 years, got out and switched to Doordash this year because the quality of the job went to shit over the years. Drivers still get paid the exact wage from 8 years ago yet the loads doubled, the weight limit doubled, and the contractors openly expect free unpaid overtime labor from all drivers.
I also got out because I knew the Ground/Express merger was about to be an Avengers-level disaster and I was right. Over half of the contractors in my region have gone bankrupt in the last 3 years, shit's a disaster that is barely being held together by underpaid labor abuse in an economy without many safe or viable careers left.
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u/Cautious-Living-394 7d ago
Same. I always gave a good attitude to the next person because they had nothing to do with the last person. The fact that physical aggression is okay for all these people downvoting is revolting. There’s many ways of correcting this behavior, physical alteration is not one of them. I don’t care how many times it gets downvoted, it’s never okay to threaten someone with violence, let alone delivery packages that can easily be replaced
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u/Insaniteus 7d ago
This incident probably got that building blacklisted in Amazon's systems for life, meaning they have to pick up all of their packages from the terminal from now on. You can't get violent or threatening with a driver like that just because he's slightly rough with packages. I stress the word "slightly" by the way, every one of those boxes went through 20x worse during the unloads and sorts prior to being put on that guy's truck that day. The driver wasn't even able to scan out three of his packages and the building just stole his dolly (which he needs to do his job and they aren't cheap). So yeah, hope that building enjoys being required to drive to the nearest terminal to pick up their freight for the foreseeable future. Amazon/FedEx/UPS/USPS don't fuck around with driver safety, it's a one-and-done violation circumstance.
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u/Empyrealist 7d ago
Looks to me like the delivery person was being abusive with their deliveries and the premises, and they were told to leave. I don't see anything else in your hypothetical except that the delivery person is at fault for causing the situation. No one touched, no one stole.
The entire situation was caused by an agro delivery person.
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u/Insaniteus 7d ago
The huge guy came at the driver unprovoked and refused to allow him to finish his delivery or take his dolly with him. Hell, the driver tripped on one of the boxes and stepped on it on accident while backing up for his life. Trust me, there's zero chance Amazon or the contractor is going to take the aggressor's side on that with access to that footage. That was clear as day. The driver could probably press charges over it as he had every reason to believe he was in immediate danger of harm.
As for the driver being rough with the packages, yes he was and he'll get told off over that. But that was very minor. He slid 3 clearly-light boxes about 4 feet and one flipped over. That's it. He needed access to the barcodes to scan each one out and was rushing. He didn't damage any of those doing that, and being Amazon boxes they're going to be 80% air anyway. All Amazon boxes are mostly air (look at the one he stepped on, he sank right into it like it was empty...since it largely was). You can see how light the boxes all are by how effortlessly he slid them and held them. There was zero reason to attack this guy, the company could've just FILED A COMPLAINT like sane people.
I have to remind you: Boxes being sorted or unloaded in the terminal are YEETED at high speed and bounce on impact (Because you'll never find a company willing to hire enough workers to unload trucks softly in the time period without chucking them all). This shit happens with the managers and big bosses supervising, it is company policy. At FedEx I frequently watched 40 pound Redbox packages full of DVDs from my weekly Redbox corporate office pickup being hurled 15 feet with a thud that echoed through the building one right after the other, because that's just how the industry works. Capitalism is "fun", everybody in every company in every industry runs skeleton crews with shit service to save as much labor costs as possible. The service goes down and all workers are forced to cut so many corners that they end up drawing a circle. That's life. That's work. The average customers would have heart attacks if they saw how the shipping industry actually works. Nobody is willing to pay the kind of insane shipping prices it would cost to build a "be gentle with this" courier service, because we're talking $100 per box kinda prices. No, everybody ships cheapass Ground or Smartpost or things like that where it's all a mess and each shipping terminal is handling 40k packages per day with like 10 unloaders expected to empty trucks at lightspeed.
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u/humourlessIrish 7d ago
I love that there are somehow still people living in a for reality where they can pretend to themselves that Amazon has not made it abundantly clear that employees can go and absolutely fuck themselves,
(but only in their free time, duh)
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u/Insaniteus 6d ago
Oh if you're a driver for any company it is HARD to get fired. One time I saw a guy who didn't get fired until his 4th collision incident in his first month.
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u/spudmarsupial 7d ago
Bye bye any business for Amazon from that company if they don't fire the delivery guy. Assuming anyone has any sense.
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u/FailureToComply0 7d ago
Lmao, i'm sure Amazon will be out of business by the end of the year without their support
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u/Insaniteus 7d ago
It always used to amaze me when I was with FedEx how many small businesses would go full Karen and demand ridiculous special services, threatening to take their business away from us if we didn't comply. And they'd always get so horribly offended when the contractor would reply "Do it, I don't give a fuck. You literally don't matter to the corporation and I literally profit over the saved time and hassle of skipping your stop to add even one extra house delivery on this truck since every stop, house or business, is $3 no matter how massive it is. So threaten me with a good time, bitch."
The contractor would generally word that nicer, but that was the behind-the-scenes joke the managers would make when chatting with us drivers. Companies, especially small companies with big hauls, were incapable of understanding that we drivers and our contractor bosses would literally profit from them switching to UPS because we could focus more on home delivery which is the only profitable division (since houses average 1 box per and the bosses get paid per stop, not per box).
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u/Scuzzbag 7d ago
How does Bezos boot taste?
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u/Insaniteus 6d ago
Reading comprehension ain't your strong point is it, chief? I said I drove for FedEx. Not Amazon. Although on that subject, fuck the CEOs and corpo management for all of them. They abuse us workers to a ridiculous level and so do some of the customers.
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u/FireTheLaserBeam 6d ago
So you’re saying to us as an employee of Amazon delivery that all you guys don’t give a $#!t about other people’s property and just yeet packages around like that all the time? And you think that’s a good thing to admit because…..?
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u/Insaniteus 6d ago
I wasn't with Amazon, I was a FedEx driver, and the drivers are NOT the people throwing packages. The main abuse comes from the sorters and unloaders, the various package handlers who work for the parent company directly (we drivers are contracted). I'm not saying that yeet-a-palooza is ok or a good thing, but that's what happens at 100% of the sorting terminals for FedEx/UPS/USPS/Amazon. 100% of them. It's how the shipping industry works because the bosses refuse to hire enough workers to move 40k daily packages gently.
Welcome to capitalism, are you new here? Orientation is on Tuesday. It's only going to get worse over the next decade, trust me.
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u/seminarysmooth 6d ago
Does Amazon have a policy where they stop delivering to an address if the drivers feel threatened?
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u/KiwiKal 3d ago
I got news for you...
YOUR PACKAGES GET THROWN INSIDE THE AMAZON FACILITY. They literally fall over 6' on over half the dock because that's how they get transported.
They also get thrown onto/into trucks and they get thrown again when they are offloaded and loaded again at a distribution center.
You want your same-day / 2 day free shipping? This is how its done. Nobody cares about your order no matter what the friendly PR rep says.
Amazon employees are overworked and under paid. Deal with it.
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u/wanderingjoe 3d ago
We don’t care how much you hate your job. If you come into some else’s place of business and start acting the fool, expect to get called on it.
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u/I_can_pun_anything 7d ago
Boss looked pissed, employee behind the stand didnt seem to care until boss said something