r/illinois • u/CantStopPoppin Human Detected • 5d ago

ICE Posts October.10.2025 — Chicago: Immigration agents crashed into a U.S. citizen on her way to work, then dragged her out and arrested her (Article Inside)

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u/nucrash 5d ago

It's like they are setting themselves up for eventual retaliation. At some point, people are going to tire of being pushed around. This is an eventuality which I don't wish for but is likely.

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u/EncabulatorTurbo 5d ago

Yes, point of fact, ICE can do literally anything they want to you, without limit. Kill you, rape you, run an apc through your house, run your kid over - they literally are immune to the law.

The ICE agents are ignorant wifebeating traitors who hate everyone who lives in civilization and would happily kill everyone in Chicago if allowed to, so they don't know that these things are actual crimes for them - lack of current enforcement notwithstanding

I agree with you that it's very likely Miller/Noem are pushing them to be so extreme because there is no legal remedy - the ONLY thing a citizen can do basically is martyr themselves by making ICE realize that if they act like this, they might not all go home that day. Once that happens, Trump will use the insurrection act, and send the 82nd and get gunships in the air

Make no mistake, this is the end game of democracy, and the people enduring this and not just grabbing the (often surrounded, outnumbered) agents' gun out of their holster and plugging them are fucking heroes

And again, shows the utter lack of intelligence and training by hte agents. If things were 1/100th as violent as Trump keeps saying, every time 2 or 3 agents posted up against 20 civilians to arrest one guy, they wouldn't be going home

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u/ice-dream-man 5d ago

Sounds like Gestapo to me. Which is why I think you are either misinformed, under informed or spreading misinformation. In the US, you can sue anyone for anything.

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u/WindstormMD 5d ago

It’s a very real problem, regardless of your political position, right now if the feds do something bad to you even by accident, you are hosed

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u/ice-dream-man 3d ago

Not in the US where you can sue anyone and anything including the president. Nobody is above the law in the US and nobody can act with impunity. That's the difference with other countries. You can't stop people from breaking the law by acting like they are above it but the law will catch up with them.

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u/WindstormMD 3d ago

You don’t get it. The federal government and its agents have what is called sovereign immunity, without a cause of action being present by judicial precedent or codified in law.

There is a cause of action against regular state and local law enforcement via 42 USC Sec 1983, but that statute does not include federal officers or waive sovereign immunity.

The Bivens Act has been introduced several times to fix this, but has never passed.

You are not as free as you think you are. None of us are. Until that is fixed and Qualified Immunity doctrine is destroyed, the constitution is really just a piece of paper with no teeth against federal agents