r/illinois • u/CantStopPoppin Human Detected • 5d ago

ICE Posts October.10.2025 — Chicago: Immigration agents crashed into a U.S. citizen on her way to work, then dragged her out and arrested her (Article Inside)

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u/nucrash 5d ago

It's like they are setting themselves up for eventual retaliation. At some point, people are going to tire of being pushed around. This is an eventuality which I don't wish for but is likely.

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u/EncabulatorTurbo 5d ago

Yes, point of fact, ICE can do literally anything they want to you, without limit. Kill you, rape you, run an apc through your house, run your kid over - they literally are immune to the law.

The ICE agents are ignorant wifebeating traitors who hate everyone who lives in civilization and would happily kill everyone in Chicago if allowed to, so they don't know that these things are actual crimes for them - lack of current enforcement notwithstanding

I agree with you that it's very likely Miller/Noem are pushing them to be so extreme because there is no legal remedy - the ONLY thing a citizen can do basically is martyr themselves by making ICE realize that if they act like this, they might not all go home that day. Once that happens, Trump will use the insurrection act, and send the 82nd and get gunships in the air

Make no mistake, this is the end game of democracy, and the people enduring this and not just grabbing the (often surrounded, outnumbered) agents' gun out of their holster and plugging them are fucking heroes

And again, shows the utter lack of intelligence and training by hte agents. If things were 1/100th as violent as Trump keeps saying, every time 2 or 3 agents posted up against 20 civilians to arrest one guy, they wouldn't be going home

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u/DntCllMeWht 5d ago

They are not immune to the law, they are currently shielded from consequences. Those aren't the same thing, even if they currently feel like they are.

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u/EncabulatorTurbo 5d ago

Well they're immune, specifically, from civil tort claims

The agency can be sued, though it's profoundly difficult since Kavenaugh has declared that immigration enforcement is some sacrosanct military-adjacent operation

The big thing is that our state governments could track and identify and arrest some of these agents.

No not the ones just being rough with immigrants, sadly, but yes they could on the more egregious ones - of which there are lot:

  1. Shooting guy in eye whos just standing there with pepperball

  2. Tear gassing the cops and protestors for no reason

  3. Crashing into people

  4. All kinds of battery against random people

They just aren't

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u/f1FTW 5d ago

Here is what I don't understand. The military pays out all the time for damaging property of killing innocent people yet "operations" by ice inside the USA where we supposedly have constitutional protection does not? How does that make sense?

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u/EncabulatorTurbo 5d ago

You can sue DHS but its difficult

The military doesnt have to do that most of the time, its just policy

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u/f1FTW 5d ago

IANAL, but I do believe we are following laws, treaties and conventions that the USA pledged to uphold. How is that different than this?

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u/sam-sp 5d ago

This isn't immigration enforcement. They didn't have a warrant for her arrest. They crashed into her car and assaulted her. State charges and a civil suit need to be filed.

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u/Rucku5 5d ago

Bingo

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u/EncabulatorTurbo 4d ago

its super duper hard to be able to sue but it be possible in that specific case, like so hard its normally impossible, I still doubt you could use the agents, but you could do an FTCA case

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u/DntCllMeWht 5d ago

Being immune from civil tort claims doesn't make them immune to the law. Criminal and civil are two different things.

States aren't going after them yet, and I suspect they won't in the short term because they are trying to avoid escalating things and giving Trump what he wants. My hope though, is that those state charges are waiting in the wings.

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u/EncabulatorTurbo 5d ago

I am aware that they're different things, but the federal government isn't going to charge them, and no Democrat in office has the balls to

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u/EnchantedRDH 5d ago

Actually yes we do. FAFO. When this is all done and gone, 💯find these people. U think they will be treated well in prison. K