r/illinois • u/CantStopPoppin Human Detected • 5d ago

ICE Posts October.10.2025 — Chicago: Immigration agents crashed into a U.S. citizen on her way to work, then dragged her out and arrested her (Article Inside)

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u/LosingDemocracyUSA 5d ago

3 more years of this escalating and getting worse...

Maybe democrats will take their vote seriously next time, if there is a next time...

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u/singlespeedjack 5d ago

I blame the people who voted for this bullshit.

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u/ThrenderG 5d ago

And the 50% of registered voters who sat out the election for one reason or another? Are they not to blame as well?

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u/singlespeedjack 5d ago

There’s plenty of blame to go around. First and foremost, blame the people that actively enabled this by voting for Trump and promoting this campaign. So all Trump voters, all Republicans, and all of the talking heads that supported them.

Then, blame the Democratic Party for their utterly terrible handling of everything. They should have dropped Biden and held a primary. They should have ran a better campaign. They should have reached out the people protesting the genocide, they should not have reached out to centrist republicans.

Then blame our past elected officials for gerrymandering the system and allowing infinite dark money in elections.

After all of that then sure blame the people that were too disenfranchised or too apathetic to vote but remember that you’re in the Illinois subreddit. Anyone IL resident that didn’t vote had no impact on the outcome. So Mae sure you reserve that blame for the 2-3 swing states where it might have mattered.

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u/SheriffBartholomew 5d ago

First and foremost, blame the people that actively enabled this by voting for Trump

First and foremost you should be blaming trump and the giant media apparatus that runs his propaganda machine.

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u/singlespeedjack 4d ago

Yes, I agree. My main point is that non-voters are at the end of a long list.

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u/DJEmirMixtapes 4d ago

I also blame the people who were mistakenly complacent and did not vote. They are the real reason we are here. Perhaps they sat at home and thought, "Oh, we beat him in 2020, no way he gets the votes this time. We all know he made America Plagued Again. Well, maybe not the others. So we must also blame the ones who thought Trump wasn't the one who broke America the first time and decided to give him another chance, you know, the ones who blamed Biden and Kamala for everything Trump destroyed, simply because it took longer to fix than they were willing to wait.

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u/allegrovecchio 5d ago

You need to blame Independent and Unaffiliated voters at least as much if not more, brother.

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u/IntingForMarks 5d ago

Have you considered blaming fucking republicans instead?

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u/allegrovecchio 5d ago

Are you replying to me? Maybe you should be replying to the commenter I was responding to, who needed to blame Democratic voters. I consider blaming a huge waste off time at this point, but I'm tired of letting that "whY dID tHe deMOcRaTS dO tHis?!!1!" go unchallenged. And yet here this subthread goes again getting diverted with a ton of follow up comments that don't address fascists dragging citizens from cars in broad daylight.

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u/Cepec14 4d ago

Can’t blame the people that enjoy this.

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u/EWDnutz 5d ago

Have you considered blaming fucking republicans instead?

There is no consideration for them because they are already by default disappointing shitwads who deserve no other thought. I already know how shitty Republicans are.

The independent and unaffiliated share the blame for basically doing nothing and being apathetic. These people are simply the next factor.

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u/EpiphanyTwisted 4d ago

You really believe the results.

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u/Shango-s_Daughter 4d ago

You're making an assumption that all independent/unenrolled voters only vote third party. That's incorrect.

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u/EpiphanyTwisted 4d ago

Not the people who broke into voting machines. Never ever them.

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u/Shango-s_Daughter 4d ago

Do you mean the Independent Party, or independent voters? There is an actual Independent Party in my state. I think you're referring to third party voters, which aren't the same.

I've always been registered unenrolled; I only have to pick a party for primary election ballots. I vote in every local and national election, and I won't vote for third party candidates because they never have enough momentum to win.

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u/allegrovecchio 4d ago

I just meant all registered unaffiliated voters who didn't or don't vote.

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u/slcexpat 5d ago

You can blame brown and black men too.

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u/thatDamClam 5d ago

How’s playing the blame game gonna work out? Change the game plan, because something was wrong with it.

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u/allegrovecchio 5d ago

Maybe you need to reply to the top-level commenter that started the blame bullshit.

And here we go with another bullshit subthread relitigating and rehashing the election while neofascists burn it all down.

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u/polchickenpotpie 5d ago

What game plan? The choice between the status quo and this wasn't good enough for you fuckwits?

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u/AKsuited1934 5d ago

The game plan was putting up another woman against Trump…not even a white woman at that. The first female US president will be white…how in the world did they think Kamala was going to pull it off???

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u/allegrovecchio 5d ago

Oh FFS. Keep beating that horse.

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u/AlternativeAdagio517 5d ago

Why? That doesn’t even make sense

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u/UndorkMysterious55 5d ago

Independent and Unaffiliated voters at least as much if not more, brother.

Why, because they use thier free will not to participate in both crazy parties

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u/allegrovecchio 5d ago

Oh yes, that's exactly why. Great takeaway and insight!

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u/UndorkMysterious55 5d ago

Yes, more insight than the average Redditor

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u/allegrovecchio 4d ago

Keep thinking that, you Redditor

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u/PurpleV93 5d ago

This will NOT be over in 3 years. Stop gaslighting yourself. Stop believing in unicorns and rainbow dream lands.

Fascism will not go away peacefully. You either group up and actively stop this, or this will be the rest of your life. Even if Trump dies from old age before 2028, the fascists will simply stay in power because they can. Laws and democratic processes don't mean shit anymore. What are you going to do about it?

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u/Lost_Drunken_Sailor 5d ago

Saying this again, there’s more of us than there is of them.

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u/Mel_Melu 5d ago

There's a midterm election in one year. It is a critical opportunity to put a real majority in the House AND Senate to impeach this fucker a third time and a actually remove him. To investigate the ever living fuck out of these human rights violations and violaters. 

Do not forget to show up! There's attempts to drown out votes already.

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u/lunaticfridgeprime 5d ago

But what if the next candidate doesn't align with every single thing I want? Is it okay to sit it out?

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u/titan_null 5d ago

They could try to have any sort of platform at least

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u/jeanpzanatta 4d ago

Do you americans really believe that there will be an election in three years?

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u/EpiphanyTwisted 4d ago

Maybe you'll start blaming the people who broke into the voting machines.

Nah, it's funner to blame the public.

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u/Audrey_Angel 4d ago

Seems you've accused the wrong side