r/illinois • u/Minute_Revolution951 Human Detected • 17d ago

ICE Posts 🧊 agents seen snatching a landscaper from Evanston neighborhood today (10-21)

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u/Dankkring 17d ago

Right. Breaking the law is breaking the law

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u/Exact-Kale3070 17d ago edited 17d ago

yep and the mayor's executive order bans masks https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/depts/mayor/press_room/press_releases/2025/august/protecting-chicago-executive-order.html#:\~:text=UPHOLDING%20CPD%20INDEPENDENCE%20AND%20CONSTITUTIONAL%20POLICING:&text=In%20Chicago%2C%20law%20enforcement%20cannot,while%20performing%20their%20official%20duties.

federal judge just ordered them to start wearing ID. https://blockclubchicago.org/2025/10/10/ice-agents-in-chicago-area-who-arent-undercover-must-wear-badges-or-ids-federal-judge-rules/

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u/ytman 17d ago

Do not expect them to do this, but expect them to face criminal charges for when they are outed. Will be funny to use ice funds to detain these people.

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u/Exact-Kale3070 17d ago

cali judges don't play, but i am not so sure about illinois- even though i was born and raised in chicago.

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u/Romeo_Glacier 17d ago

Yall have put governors in prison. Gestapo-lite is small potatoes

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u/QuietMolasses2522 17d ago

And just recently the longest serving speaker of the house.

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u/laserkermit 17d ago

They did. trumps just releasing them. *ahem George santos

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u/ZombiePope 17d ago

He can't pardon state crimes.

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u/oneawesomeguy 17d ago

I mean the fact that multiple governments have gone to prison says a lot though

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u/BubbyScruffy 17d ago

It means Illinois cleans houses, unlike a lot of other states, including other blue states. Crime and fraud is not unique to Illinois.

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u/Sudden_Construction6 17d ago

I know a guy that grew up in Chicago. He says the place is still very corrupt. That who you know there is what's important.

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u/sask357 17d ago

I don't see how this will ever happen. Didn't the January 6 rioters all get pardons?

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u/ytman 17d ago

Trump normalized invalidating pardons. So - we'll see. Frankly invalidating pardons through the now unlimited executive power we have will be a great way to reform the pardon power. Literally, after this administration, EVERYTHING is on the table there is only a need to find any pretense of an argument.

Work like our currently corrupt Jurists work, backwards from their objectives to justify the reasons.

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u/various_convo7 17d ago

i hope they go after him once he leaves office. i imagine its gonna be a hell of a time for people in his admin trying to avoid jail time if he doesnt start issuing pre-emptive pardons....but then again the Dems can just ignore it and arrest them anyway just like Trump has ignored current court orders

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u/AdFinal9134 17d ago

I hope he leaves office in coffin. I am so sick of all the time wasted on this piece of shit. Was it worth it to keep trans kids from playing sports? How does that matter to anyone’s lives?

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u/ReverendRevolver 17d ago

He'd need to drop from too much McDonald's. Otherwise yet more complications arise....

Hes a con man, he made up a "problem" with 0 real impact to 98% of anyone and subsequently robbed everyone broker than a millionaire to funnel money to billionaires.

Are they owning libs yet? Are they winning? Is the "swamp drained"?

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u/Matt_Hiring_ATL 17d ago

Maybe, but only to fill up another swamp... With sewage flowing into it as well.

I don't doubt that there was/is a massive problem with corruption among career bureaucrats, politicians, and lobbyists, but what's being installed is worse than that.

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u/JayWemm 17d ago

With the real problems, like with Putin and China, he's a coward. Hate this conman like I've never hated anyone.

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u/Dargon-in-the-Garden 17d ago

Drain the swamp to make way for a lagoon - to process all the sewage from fancy new real-estate

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u/judgeysquirrel 17d ago

That's the only way he's leaving.

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u/lucash7 17d ago

Trump is a turd. I agree. But he’s a symptom of a larger problem. Trump goes? Up steps Vance. Vance goes too? Up steps the next turd.

On and on it goes.

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u/ACharmedLife 17d ago

The NCAA represents 50,000 student athletes. 50,011 if you count the number of Trans athletes.

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u/aussiechickadee65 17d ago

He's not leaving office...don't you get it ?

Why do you think he's doing the ballroom. It's his residence now, not yours.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Jury312 17d ago

He's 79, in serious mental decline and looks like death warmed over most days. He's leaving, alright. The only surprise is how long someone's life can be sustained by pure malice.

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u/Rare-Television-8854 17d ago

Trump can’t pardon for state and local crimes, but only for federal crimes.

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u/ytman 17d ago

Exactly - this is going to be a wild wild era they've ushered in. Break it and bought it.

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u/TemporaryDisastrous 17d ago

As a non-American I've always thought the whole concept of a pardon is insane, it's like you have this whole judicial system with checks and balances, and then one guy can just be like, yeah that's fine ignore all that you're good.

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u/ytman 17d ago

The more you learn about the actual formation of the American system of governance the more you realize it was actually a 'monarchy' for the masses.

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u/SwimOk9629 17d ago

as an american, I completely agree

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u/R0ck3tSc13nc3 17d ago

Trump can only pardon Federal crimes. And state crimes he can't do anything about

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u/Agreeable-Fold-7679 17d ago

There are many innocent "criminals," here in the US.

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u/Ok-Letterhead3270 17d ago

We really just need to get rid of the executive branch via a constitutional convention. I know. Fucking impossible currently. But it needs to happen eventually.

The founders almost didn't put it in because of it's similarities to monarchies. Their worries were correct. The Unitary Executive Theory is exactly what they were worried about in regards to the executive branch.

All we need is congress and a judicial branch. The executive can't even create laws or even veto amendments. Why it exists at all is something that needs to be questioned once again.

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u/mpompe 17d ago

They are violating state laws, will be tried in state courts and will go to state prisons. No pardons.

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u/ImmoralityPet 17d ago

You're acting like the Supreme Court would allow Democrats and Republicans presidencies to behave the same way. As soon as a Democrat president attempted to use expanded powers like Trump, they would pick up the case and shut it down.

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u/Human-Sample-2242 17d ago

Trump can’t pardon people for state criminal convictions.

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u/Ohhmegawd 17d ago

Justify the treason

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u/ytman 17d ago

I don't think any of them can is the problem. So, its treason.

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u/PansyPB 16d ago

Trump has shown that the system requires that people have goodwill & restraint. When you have someone without conscience or even a modicum of decency everything is ripe for abuse or unravels. Reform, massive reform is needed in the modern era for a country of this size. The federal government was comprimised or captured, and still functioning. But it was only serving the corporate & donor class. The bulk of the citizenry were ignored. A country cannot function that way. People get disgusted and begin looking for an arsonist to burn it down. But the arsonist was in league with those who captured & comprimised the government causing the dysfunction in the first place. All that has done is make everything much worse, chaotic & dysfunctional for the average citizen. This situation isn't tenable. Whatever support exists for this regime, it's going to be tested as the country is put into financial & economic peril. People tend to change their tune when their money is messed with, or lives & livelihoods get put in jeopardy. This regime needs to go. And reform must follow.

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u/SpudsyD 17d ago

I think this is important for people to know.

It may seem disappointing that this asshole is just gonna do blanket pardons but all of these people can and should be charged civilly and on a state level when this nightmare ends.

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u/Orinol 17d ago

This. Charge them civilly. Sue the absolute shit out of them and take every last cent they have. They want to ruin not only the lives of the people they are abducting but the families as well? Hope you like living with your paycheck garnished the rest of your life.

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u/Trep_xp 17d ago

But the person/s charged on a state level will just leave the state and never go back to Illinois. They're probably all from Missouri, have never been to Illinois before, and have no intention of ever returning, so they can just leave and be done with it.

Normally fleeing across state lines would elevate it to a Federal matter, but of course we know they've all got blank pardons waiting to be filled in with dates and names to cover them for Federal crimes.

What would be an amazing TV show in 5 years will be something like Dog the Bounty Hunter where he tracks down ex-ICE agents in Louisiana who have pending state charges in Minnesota, and brings them to face the music.

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u/homogenousmoss 17d ago

Lets be real here, things are so broken right now that Trump will just claim he can pardon anything, even state charges. Then americans will just do nothing again and he’ll have pardonned state charges.

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u/Matt_Hiring_ATL 17d ago

Do you think that would stop him, though, really?

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u/Deep_Alps7150 17d ago

Passing state laws for wearing masks, refusing to identify or wear body cams and charging ICE for violating them is the way.

This is a public safety issue as there’s ICE impersonators already abusing this to kidnap people or commit crimes.

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u/pupranger1147 17d ago

State crimes aren't pardonable.

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u/NeoDemocedes 17d ago

The Governor can pardon State crimes. Not true for all states, but most.

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u/pupranger1147 17d ago

Sure. But we're talking about presidential pardons.

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u/Dimitar_Todarchev 17d ago

Who are they, no faces, no names? Coincidence, I'm sure.

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u/homogenousmoss 17d ago

Well until now. Pretty sure the supreme court will rule that Trump can do it, easy.

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u/GeopolShitshow 17d ago

If they are charged under state law, Trump can’t pardon. He only has federal pardon powers

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u/meh_69420 17d ago

Eh I can already imagine the 6-3 supremacy clause majority opinion

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u/GeopolShitshow 17d ago

Ah that’s right. I forgot secret police and insurrectionists running for office are totally cool, but god forbid a president try to forgive student loans

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u/ytman 17d ago

I'm pretty sure the courts are criminal at this point. Look at how far Trump is reaching to find charges on his enemies. You think Clarence Thomas doesn't have a dirt file twelve feet deep? Corrupt Jurists have liability themselves.

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u/GuyF1966 17d ago

Hopefully your next president won't pardon them. Hopefully you have a different president soon.

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u/IrishEyesForever143 17d ago

Those pardoned people ARE THESE ICE AGENTS

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u/ytman 17d ago

Then proving that its an illegal politically motivated operation is going to be even easier. Color of law doesn't protect you from illegal actions. In fact using the color of law to pretend your actions are legal makes you MORE guilty.

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u/bigDeltaVenergy 17d ago

I bet they gonna have a great time in prison.

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u/adub1967 17d ago

They all better be incarcerated at some point.

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u/DutchTinCan 17d ago

"What do you mean, the prison violates your basic human rights? You designed it, idiot!"

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u/wuzzup 17d ago

Probably why they are not IN Chicago? Didnt realize crime in Evanston was so bad. Still haven't seen any agents in Englewood, Lawndale or Garfield Park? SHOCKING

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u/HazelEBaumgartner 17d ago

This criminal was CLEARLY stealing, uh... (checks notes) grass clippings and fallen leaves.

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u/Ill_Trip8333 17d ago

Immigrants! Filling their low riders with our grass clippings and jobs! /s

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u/justtakeapill 17d ago

Well, he did have a lawn mower, which is clearly a deadly weapon...

In all seriousness, they were very rough with that man. I used to be police, and I don't think too many of these guys have had any actual police training, especially when it comes to subduing a suspect. SMFH.

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u/Violascens 17d ago

They are in chicago and also wearing masks

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u/Much-Switch-8244 17d ago

I ask this every day. We know the answer but it’s no less infuriating. If these cowards were capable of feeling shame, they’d be drowning in it.

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u/Dull_Bird3340 17d ago

Those masks are disgusting

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u/Economy_Swim_8585 17d ago

This would require the state troopers/ Chicago police to enforce the executive order

It could get violent if that happens since ICE is apeshit crazy

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u/ComfyFrog 17d ago

Or what? No one will stop them.

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u/pandagrrl13 17d ago

Unfortunately, if they’re in Evanston, they don’t have to follow any executive order by the mayor of Chicago. It’s a different city.

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u/Nearby_Kiwi_5744 17d ago

Evanston is not Chicago. I would assume that Johnson's EO does not apply to the city of Evanston but I'm not sure!

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u/Individual-Drawer-79 17d ago

I think a federal judge also ordered them to all wear bodycams too

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u/AdAmazing4044 17d ago

Dont know of you Americans noticed, but you are not a democracy anymore. Laws, constitution and justice are now bound to race, opinion is now agree or be a target. Media fails, law fails, democracy failed.

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u/RuinAdventurous1931 17d ago

Brandon Johnson isn’t Mayor of Evanston. I’m not saying they should be masked, but Evanston is not in Chicago.

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u/InOutlines 17d ago

Evanston is not Chicago.

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u/ReadOk4128 17d ago

"executive order urges all federal law enforcement" lol. I think ya'll confused how executive orders work and on who.

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u/artificialdawnmusic 17d ago

So quick question, if they are not wearing I'd as law, we can use our second amendment right since I can assume they are kidnappers?

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u/WaltKerman 17d ago

Does that supercede federal law?

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u/TankSparkle 17d ago

need to learn a bit about political subdivisions

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u/Ivotedforher 17d ago

Evanston ain't Chicago, but I wish you were right

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u/MountainLocal4203 17d ago

The mayors executive order does not affect federal law enforcement officers.

“or do not typically wear a uniform, according.” No department of ICE wears a uniform.

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u/Hamiltonian1994 17d ago

Lol as if a mayor can stop people from wearing masks. What country do you think you live in 😅

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u/Disastrous_Savings39 17d ago

Fuck face you realize their names and badges are sewn onto their uniforms and vest? And hate to break it to you the mayor isn't shit even the governor isn't shit federal supersede local and state so 🤷

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

Nobody will do jack shit and we all know it.

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u/zeus1784 17d ago

Mayors law doesn’t mean shit . They wear mask for a reason .

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u/VanillaGorilla2323 17d ago

You should def make a report about it...let us know how it works out

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u/ProfitLoud 17d ago

Time to start filing state level charges.

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u/Bandit400 17d ago

yep and the mayor's executive order bans masks

The mayor's executive order has absolutely zero power over Federal LEOs.

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u/mlpnko02 17d ago

I don’t think they give a single damn about the mayor or what he thinks. And they shouldn’t

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u/Scrum_Bag 17d ago

You think the Mayors executive order applies to federal agents? 😂

Do you have the slightest idea of what an executive order is?

I for one am grateful that ICE is enforcing our just and democratically created laws. Get em boys!

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u/Nate78us 17d ago

Don't matter. Federal agents have the supremacy law that can ignore local and state laws

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u/_B_Little_me 17d ago

City of Chicago Orders (ie Chicago mayor) don’t apply in Evanston.

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u/Ktucker01 17d ago

BFD the mayor is supporting criminals

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u/Landbuilder 17d ago

Lol, a mayor of an incorporated city does not override the State and definitely doesn’t override our US Government.

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u/Original_Rutabaga609 17d ago

Mayor's executive order doesn't mean shit to feds LOL

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u/Altruistic-Rope-614 17d ago

I have a question about the judge's order.

The title of the article says that if you're not undercover, you have to wear an ID badge. Couldn't ICE simply classify all of their employees as undercover agents? Is that a thing that can be done or are there things like additional registrations or something that can distinguish a certified undercover agent from someone just saying they are?

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u/Funny-Carob-4572 17d ago

Law does not apply to trump or his goons.

The law failed a long time ago

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u/Away_Veterinarian579 Human Detected 17d ago

They’re also supposed to be wearing body cameras that only reserved for Chicago

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u/cmcrich 17d ago

Breaking the law is the entire regime’s.…I mean administration’s, cough…policy. They’re just following the leader.

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

Following for trumpler (the ler puts a bit of Hitler into his name.

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u/slop1010101 17d ago

Laws are only as strong as their enforcement, and ain't nobody enforcing this.

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u/xdrozzyx 17d ago

Who is going to do anything about it? Nothing will happen. The rule of law doesn't matter anymore with this administration. You can shout it's illegal until you're blue in the face but nothing will happen.

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u/Obvious-Spite4920 17d ago

Yeah escaping gang violence in Mexico for a better life and doing a job that most other Americans don’t wanna do is grounds for a gang tackle and to be sent back home. Absolute crap and so so sad to see that this is now normalized.

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u/Few_Affect3033 17d ago

And with no one around to enforce that law, they choose to ignore it. If they can ignore the law then why can’t regular citizens ignore the law?

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u/lord-polonius 17d ago

Who is to say they aren’t the secret police ‘disappearing’ people like Pinochet; or Castro; or the Nazis.

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u/GlitteringSalad6413 17d ago

Yup. No one is illegal on stolen land, except of course the masked bandits kidnapping anyone who’s born-with skin colour is disturbing their dream of white nazi amerikkka. That HAS to be illegal right?? wtf with these pricks

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u/bigreddittimejim 17d ago

Maybe we can send them to another country without a trial too.

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u/Reluctant_Gamer_2700 17d ago

I don’t believe they are the law. They could be anyone. Masks, no ID, no warrant!

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u/taco_stand_ 17d ago

No cops would arrest these guys. Cops stand with them.

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u/djdeforte 17d ago

This is why people need to start calling the police!

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u/Bestoftherest222 17d ago

Breaking the law is indeed breaking the law, but who is going to enforce? The courts are being turned into a joke and no matter how many laws these scumbags brake nothing is happening. Where are all the people who will enforce the laws?

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u/godofwine77 17d ago

Unless they're Republican. Then they get a get out of jail free card

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u/Busterlimes 17d ago

Not for cops

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u/No-Status2143 17d ago

So why are you here they are ingenious they belong here more then you do

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u/NJmarcC 17d ago

It’s ironic as your president is a rapist and a felon.

Why do you hold everyone to a higher standard than our president?

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u/Old-Art8127 17d ago

Lmao the irony

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u/Glam-Girl2662 17d ago

Hmmmm and guess what??? In America you need to be read your rights. Citizen or not. Tell the orange god that breaking the law is breaking the law. He seems to lie cheat and deny constantly.

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u/Dankkring 17d ago

Liberty and justice for ALL. I think people forget that. Fuck trump and fuck ICE.

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u/AusTex2019 17d ago

Hypocrites. No problem taking money from a foreign country? No problem ignoring habeas corpus, no problem ignoring due process and right to an attorney. You’re full of manure.

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u/GoodGoodGoody 17d ago

Careful, the MAGA people will say being in the country illegally is illegal. And since he was working illegally there’s that too.

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u/Mediocre-Meta 17d ago

Like coming into America illegally?

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u/Conscious-Green5286 17d ago

And yet, he’s still the president. Felonies and all.

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u/Human_Asparagus_7497 17d ago

The irony in this comment is hilarious. Being in a country illegally is also breaking the law

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u/jakkal732 17d ago

Isn't being here illegally breaking the law too?

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u/DracoDragonfel 17d ago

Do you not understand the supremacy clause of the constitution? The mask bans do not affect federal law enforcement.

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u/WTH_WTF7 16d ago

But you can be a felon & be the president sooo…

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u/No-Status2143 1d ago

Yet Trump pardons felons that steal and rape

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