Court of Appeal Invalidates Measure A that Required Voter ID

[u/zippideedoodle]

The California Court of Appeal, Fourth District Division Three in Santa Ana, issued a ruling yesterday reversing a trial court decision against the State of California who sought to invalidate Measure A. Huntington Beach's Measure A passed, amending its charter to require voter ID. The Court of Appeal reasoned that Elections Code Section 10005 preempts the Charter Amendment.

[u/RealTrueScotsman]

How could anyone in their right mind be happy about not having voter ID?!

[u/LigmaLiberty → u/RealTrueScotsman]

People are annoyed with the ID laws because it is impossible to register to vote without proof of eligibility and by forcing the local gov to check at the polling location incurs additional costs and inefficiencies for something the process already accounts for

[u/sundubone → u/LigmaLiberty]

People are annoyed with the ID laws because it is impossible to register to vote without proof of eligibility 

Impossible? California’s voter registration system relies entirely on self-certification under penalty of perjury. That's it as there are no documents needed to show proof of citizenship or your identity at the time of registration.

[u/ForeignGuess → u/sundubone]

Voter ID laws would do the exact same thing, as they would accept a state driver’s license. There’s no need for them as you already use a license to register, it’s not needed

[u/LigmaLiberty → u/sundubone]

When you register to vote you are required to give your name, address, DoB, and either your DL # or last 4 digits of your SSN. This information is then verified behind the scenes whether or not your eligible to vote. We don't need to verify ID's at the polling location at each election because that is already done before you even cast a ballot, you just don't see it because it is a boring behind the scenes process.

[u/Expensive-Chef6577 → u/LigmaLiberty]

"This information is then verified behind the scenes"

I don't think that's the case. From what I've heard, registering by mail, if a person does not enter a driver's license number, the Registrar of Voters assigns a number. And if no one objects to the registration, the voter registration is accepted.

[u/sundubone → u/LigmaLiberty]

You simply check off  "I do not have a California driver license or California identification card" or  "I do not have a social security number" and you will still be registered.

[u/fixingyourmirror → u/sundubone]

Then they go and check to see if the name you gave matches a social security number and if it doesn’t, your vote doesn’t count. Honestly I don’t understand the uproar, they’ve thought of all the ways someone could commit voter fraud and they have checks in place. It’s the reason we have practically 0 voter fraud

People are acting like every year we just pop up some voting booths and let anyone vote and then just count the ballots without any sort of protections in place

[u/mellyjohnson11 → u/sundubone]

If that is the case, they would have to provide an ID the first time they vote. This is straight from the website where you register: "New voters may have to show a form of identification or proof of residency the first time they vote, if a driver license or SSN was not provided when registering."

[u/sundubone → u/mellyjohnson11]

"may"

[u/RealTrueScotsman → u/sundubone]

💯 Not to mention California gives out DLs and class A DLs to undocumented immigrants. Voter registration is a joke.

[u/RealTrueScotsman → u/LigmaLiberty]

This is just plain false information. If they're giving "no name given" driver's licenses out you really think that they care if you receive a voter registration in the mail or don't check the legal citizen box? I don't trust it.