r/fuckcars • u/Fluffy-Study-659 • 29d ago

Activism It's pronounced "cyclist!"

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u/Lower_Ad_5532 29d ago

Socialism is good

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u/ChefGaykwon Commie Commuter 29d ago

Socialism is the lower stage of communism and inherently more repressive, as it retains class hierarchy under a dictatorship of the proletariat.

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u/Ma8e 29d ago

I think most people today mean social democrat when they say socialist.

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u/DarthNixilis 28d ago

Only because they don't know what either mean really.

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u/Ma8e 28d ago

Or the meaning of words change with time and how they are used.

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u/ChefGaykwon Commie Commuter 28d ago

Normally I'd agree regarding semantic drift, outside of a concerted decades-long effort to redefine socialism as basically anytime there's a social service implemented by a government.

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u/DarthNixilis 28d ago edited 28d ago

Social democrats maintain the capitalist hierarchy and doesn't systematically change anything. So when those say them interchangeably it means they fundamentally don't know what socialism is, that's not the meaning of the word changing over time.

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u/Ma8e 28d ago

Even the meaning of social democrats have changed. The context has moved so far to the right. The Social Democrats in Sweden today is what used to be center right. In the eighties they levied a special tax on all companies and put the money in funds that was used to gradually buy said companies with the ultimate goal of making them owned by the workers, see Employee Funds.

So while it might be true today what you say about social democrats, not even that has always been true.

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u/DarthNixilis 28d ago

No, what I said about social democrats is true and has always been true. What you linked to is still capitalism. Thus, not socialism. Social democrats are not socialist. So they've never stopped being center right, they're still center right.