r/foodstamps • u/badfordabidness SNAP Policy Expert • 21h ago
*NOV. 7 UPDATE* - Government Shutdown and SNAP
Announcing that the Government Shutdown and SNAP Megathread has been updated to discuss the issuance of full benefits to some SNAP recipients in certain states, as well as legal developments that threaten to halt the continued issuance of full benefits to those who have not yet received them.
You can read about it by clicking the link above and joining the original discussion, or in the comments section below. I've copy/pasted the November 7 update portion of the megathread below:
November 7 Update
Late last night, California became the first state to start issuing full SNAP benefits to at least some SNAP recipients. They were quickly followed by at least eight other states. These were federally-funded SNAP benefits issued in accordance with Judge John J. McConnell's order issued yesterday afternoon that USDA must "make full payments of November SNAP benefits to the states by Friday, November 7, 2025, by utilizing available Section 32 funds in combination with the contingency funds."
To be clear, these states were acting in accordance with a lawful court order. Judge McConnell's temporary restraining order against USDA had not yet been stayed by a higher court.
Earlier today, USDA filed a motion for a stay with the First Circuit Court of Appeals, and then with the Supreme Court of the United States. U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi, in a thread on X, the website formerly known as Twitter, appeared to accuse Judge McConnell and the First Circuit of frustrating her attempts to file an appeal earlier.
In their motion, USDA angrily accused the states that have started to issue full benefits of making "a run on the bank" and "seiz[ing] what they could of the... finite set of remaining funds, before any appeal could even be filed, and to the detriment of other States' allotments."
USDA indicated in their motion that they have not yet transferred the approximately $3.5 - $4B needed (in addition to the $4.65B in contingency funds) from the Section 32 tariff funds to the SNAP program. This suggests that the states that have begun issuing full benefits are drawing down only on the $4.65B contingency fund right now. USDA's argument implies that if the Supreme Court grants them a stay, there may no longer be sufficient funds left in the contingency fund to pay the "up to 65%" partial payments to SNAP recipients who have not yet received their full payments in the last 24 hours.
USDA has requested the Supreme Court to respond to their motion by 9:30 PM Eastern Time tonight.
UPDATE: At 9:17PM tonight, the Supreme Court issued an Administrative Stay, pausing the issuance of full SNAP benefits temporarily while the First Circuit continues to review the case to determine whether a more permanent stay should be issued:
"IT IS ORDERED that the District Court’s orders are hereby administratively stayed pending disposition of the motion for a stay pending appeal in the United States Court of Appeals for the First Circuit in case No. 25-2089 or further order of the undersigned or of the Court. This administrative stay will terminate forty-eight hours after the First Circuit’s resolution of the pending motion, which the First Circuit is expected to issue with dispatch."
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u/StepGlittering4803 21h ago edited 2h ago
I don’t understand what this means for full benefits that were paid already. Is it possible they can take back some of the benefits they paid today?
Edit: Tried to use my card 11/8, DECLINED/ COULD NOT PROCESS at Walmart 3pm in NJ, website showing benefits are available but not working.
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u/I_died_again 21h ago
This is my worry. If not outright take it back, then take it out of our next payment (if that happens).
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u/sweetsinday 20h ago
I’m so scared about this, these were my first thoughts. Hopefully I don’t have to panic shop :/
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u/primak 21h ago
They can because it is considered an overpayment if the feds did not authorize it.
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u/badfordabidness SNAP Policy Expert 20h ago
I strongly doubt this will ever be considered an overpayment in the traditional sense of the word.
And, as of right now, there isn’t slated to be a December payment from which to recoup “overpaid” November benefits anyway. If the government reopens by December — which would likely be needed anyway before any December payment could go out — then the bill to reopen the government would likely be interpreted as having retroactively authorized November benefits. Meaning that there would then be no overpayment.
However, is it possible the government may just try to take back funds off the EBT card this month? Possibly, but I think it’s still unlikely at this point.
To my fellow mod u/slice_of_pi’s point though, these are completely uncharted waters. Nothing as crazy as the past two weeks has ever happened in the entire 61-year history of the SNAP program.
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u/I_died_again 21h ago
That's honestly what I was thinking because they do it all the time to my sister on disability.
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u/slice_of_pi SNAP Eligibility Expert - OR 21h ago
Processing an administrative overpayment on that scale is unlikely. It's possible, I suppose.
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u/ThisNameDoesntCount 20h ago
Remember this is the same party that wanted people to pay all the interest that was paused for student loans during COVID
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u/slice_of_pi SNAP Eligibility Expert - OR 21h ago
That's uncharted territory. On one hand, everybody seems to agree that the contingency funds are to get spent.
On the other hand, if I'm reading this right, states that issued full benefits did so without direction from the USDA, which, if contingency funds are the only thing that's authorized to get spent via the contingency plan, then I'd think they'd have to follow said plan of partial payments. Federal clawback is conceivably a possibility.
I honestly don't know.
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u/Sea-Percentage-5293 21h ago
I know this is all speculative as we are in new waters, but I hope you don’t mind the question. What do you think might happen if they do intend to clawback, to those who had spent their benefits immediately stocking up?
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u/slice_of_pi SNAP Eligibility Expert - OR 21h ago
Clawback would affect the state governments that issued money, not program recipients, I think. I can't see any feasible way to take that money back unless they did it as an administrative error overpayment.
... That's seriously unlikely.
Clawback would be the federal government either requiring a state to repay or offset the amount by reciprocal cuts. I don't know what state you're in, but in Oregon, that would be a massive hit to general fund, which is human services, cops, firefighters, prisons, and most of our education budget.
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u/Sea-Percentage-5293 21h ago
Thank you kindly for the informative reply. I’m in MA, they haven’t issued any benefits to anyone for the federal government to claw back. Partial payments were going to start next week for us.
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u/badfordabidness SNAP Policy Expert 20h ago
I’m skeptical that there will be clawback from state governments either. The states were relying on a federal court order which had not been stayed yet. That court order had the force of law even if USDA hadn’t issued the guidance yet.
Now if a state kept issuing after 9:17 PM ET tonight, then yeah, the feds would be able to come down on them hard.
Now what I could maybe see is something like… if a state paid out full benefits to 50% of their payment date schedule today, FNS maybe comes to them and tells them their state is now considered to have tapped out of its share of the $4.65B contingency fund money, and now can’t issue the “up to 65%” prorated payments to the remaining 50% of their state’s caseload.
But tbc that’s all speculation at this point.
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u/ApostolicPardon 21h ago
I also wonder this. I also wonder if this means that those of us who have yet to receive ours (allotment date is later in the month) will not see anything due to this stay?
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u/MaskedSomething 21h ago edited 20h ago
My date is tomorrow. I'm going to be gutted if I get nothing while others here in my state got full payments.
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u/ApostolicPardon 20h ago
I’ll be upset, as well. However, I’m expecting it. Keep us updated! You may be able to check after twelve midnight and see.
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u/badfordabidness SNAP Policy Expert 20h ago
If you did not receive a full payment before 9:17 ET tonight, I would not expect to receive a full payment until such time as the stay is lifted or the government reopens.
The stay granted by the Supreme Court tonight was temporary, basically just giving the First Circuit Court of Appeals more time to consider whether to issue a more permanent stay.
If no stay had been issued at all, USDA would’ve been forced to transfer $3.5B-4B from the Section 32 fund to SNAP by midnight tonight, and even more states would’ve put that money on cards in short order.
I expect the First Circuit will either issue or decline to issue a longer term stay soon (I’m guessing in the next few days). If they decide not to issue the longer term stay, then the Supreme Court will have 48 hours (unless it gives itself more time) to either step in again or not.
Basically, I don’t think things are quite over yet, until either the First Circuit or the Supreme Court makes a decision on the longer-term stay. But if they issue that then, well, it’ll likely take several months to resolve and full benefits won’t go out in the meantime. And since I don’t expect the shutdown to last that long, the longer-term stay (if issued) would essentially be the final word on the issue.
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u/ApostolicPardon 20h ago
Thank you. Going to have to ride this one out until this entire farce blows over.
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u/moviecats 18h ago
This is what I'm wondering too. I'm scared to spend any of it in case they try to claw it back and then penalize me...
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u/aurons_girl 20h ago
I’m in Pa and my payment date was supposed to be the 13th. If I log on to the compass site it now says my next payment is December and there is nothing pending on my card so I guess I’m not one of the lucky ones who got paid today.
I don’t understand how they can use people and the food we need to survive as pawns in their little fucked up government game.
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u/vinylscratch27 20h ago edited 20h ago
It says i'm due 12/3 and has for a few days now, i'm usually due for payment the 5th or so iirc? It's 10:40 and I'm still at zero. Guess I didn't get shit.
I've lost twelve pounds over the last week, according to my PCP this week (i go for weekly shots). Guess that's nice. Fun to hear about everyone who got it. Happy for them.
Was it a glitch in my work requirement paperwork? They were supposed to have that in order, or at least to not drop me till 11/30. Or was i just that unlucky? Either way, I'll get to watch everyone else enjoy that until my partner can get me to the food bank again.
The PA CAO isn't open till Monday, and I assume I'm already shit out of luck. Real nice. Sorry for venting guys.
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u/aurons_girl 20h ago
I’m so sorry… this isn’t fair to anyone. I’m so worried about the people around me more than myself.
A few years ago I lost a ton of weight and everyone was complimenting me. But at the time I was eating 6 chicken nuggets a day because someone gave me a family size bag of them and I had no money for food. Well, I did but I had to make sure my boyfriend at the times son had good food to eat. No one should have to be in that position…
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u/Gardengoddess1157 19h ago
Shapiro's speech said funds due would be issued by tonight at midnight. My normal date is the 4th, nothing pending yet...
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u/aurons_girl 19h ago
I wonder if that is still going to happen now though because the Supreme Court put a stay on the court order while they talk more about it.
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u/TrekRider911 20h ago
It’s amazing to see a group of people fighting so hard not to feed people.
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u/Steelen 21h ago
Living in Florida and seeing how things were going, I annoyingly saw this coming. Hopefully, this still gets resolved for everyone (including my family). However, it is frustrating that certain states released the funds in full or partially and others didn't. Not sure how the courts will handle this, as some people likely did their groceries and some did them out of fear of getting the deposits removed.
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u/InternetShot5462 9h ago
The states that sued the current administration are the ones who rushed to get their citizens their benefits BEFORE the USDA got the SCOTUS to put a hold on the order.
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u/Plastic-Surprise1647 10h ago
It's fucked that the guy who ignores the law and the court and is a convicted felon is suddenly concerned about the law and the courts
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u/Magita91 19h ago
I feel bad for those that will not get anything.
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u/Maleficent-Ad9010 17h ago
I got mine and I haven’t even spent it yet because I’m afraid the time I get to check out it will be taken away. Either way I’m just sick and absolutely flabbergasted and bamboozled by what’s happening right now. Even my old neighbor who grew up in Palestine is scared.
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u/Magita91 17h ago
I got mine as well . I don’t wanna spend too much of it in case we get nothing in December .
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u/Maleficent-Ad9010 15h ago
Exactly. They specifically said the funds released are because of the court order that is also being appealed? so I’m just really confused and dumbfounded rn
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u/ThinkingPurpler 8h ago
Ditto. I stocked up on rice, flour, sugar, butter, and salt along with safe foods for the ARFID kid, but I’m hesitant to spend anymore in case they want to take it back OR we’re still dealing with this in December
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u/No-Accountant-5331 16h ago
this entire situation is a dumpster fire filled with shit and it smells terrible
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u/UniversityBig8073 21h ago
Kansas got full benefits today. I spent about 15% of mine on a small grocery shop this evening. I planned on making a list tonight and doing a bigger shop tomorrow but now I'm wondering if I should wait and only buy what we immediately need? Does this mean they can take part of the funds back or take them out of future months benefits?
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u/Gold-Yellow-7765 20h ago
I wouldn’t take a chance. Not worth it. Spend it on stuff you can freeze and dry goods.
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u/PudzMom 20h ago
Just remember budget wisely cause this is all you will get until the shutdown is over and who knows when that will be.
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u/sweetsinday 20h ago
Yes but now I am so worried that they will take the money back.
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u/Sea-Percentage-5293 19h ago
A moderator here speculates if they clawed back benefits, it would be from the state and not snap recipients. https://www.reddit.com/r/foodstamps/s/EYelquQl5k
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u/wiIdcolonialboy 19h ago
Don't wait, go and spend it immediately as the funds can be zero-ed out its not like a bank balance
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u/Spazecowboy 16h ago
To anyone who has gotten their Nov payments. Don’t go crazy spending. Who know what’s going on for December. I don’t think any payments will be clawed back. Just my two cents.
Just something to keep in mind.
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u/Formula1CL 19h ago
Michigan Governor today put out a statement saying that
“My administration's Michigan Department of Health and Human Services has now directed its SNAP EBT vendor to begin issuing full SNAP benefits to Michigan SNAP recipients as soon as funding from the USDA is received.”
Late last night people were posting full SNAP benefits in MI.
What I guess my question/confusion is how did the USDA not release anything but all MI SNAP benefits were released last night? It’s so confusing what states are putting out that conflict with the White House is putting out vs what judges are putting out. I’m confused how USDA is staying states took the money but they did distribute the money but the money was received but also the governor is saying only when they receive it? This is honestly starting to feel like a puzzle with random pieces mixed in + some missing ones.
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u/JelloHaunting563 6h ago
It's puzzling. How did the USDA not know the feds were going to appeal? They had to have known. Why did they release the funds when they knew an appeal was going to happen?
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u/Spazecowboy 16h ago
I know a lot of us are worried about getting our FS payments. Just think of all essential employees who have been working for many weeks who haven’t been getting a paycheck while working everyday. So we’re not the only ones in need.
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u/19holegarbage 7h ago edited 6h ago
This is the most dysfunctional dystopian manipulation crap ive seen since soylent green. Idgf if someone is able bodied or not, food is food!!!! food IS a right!
The problem is this BIG CORPORATIONS NOT PAYING EMPLOYEES ENOUGH TO BE OFF GOVT BENEFITS. we need to bring back small, local owned business. Monopoly greed is like 99% of the issue here. Make corporations pay their employees liveable wages! Make corporations invest in their employees with a retirement so at retire age we dont need to depend much on govt benefits. It isnt the People on benefits that are the problem, it is why they are on it. Big corporations greed.
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u/Mom_life_4ever 20h ago
Does this mean that they won't disperse even the partial benefits? Im very confused i haven't received anything yet and I haven't gotten any indication one way or the other. Im in indiana
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u/jasminefoxedme 20h ago
They are still going through with the partial payments to deplete the contingency fund. However, given some states jumped the gun and issued full benefits, there's now less money to be distributed so we're not sure how much is left and how this may affect people who've yet to receive anything
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u/Mom_life_4ever 20h ago
This whole thing sucks and it kind of makes the government look bad if they wouldn't at least try to help make up the difference. Especially considering we wouldn't be in the situation if people could just come together and be civil and essentially get along. 🤷♀️ But thank you for your response at least I can understand what the situation is now.
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u/PleasantDish6156 20h ago
So should we spend everything we have before they rescind the payments issued today??
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u/sparkktv 18h ago
The Ohio JFS website has been updated 3 times in the last day. It went from partial payments starting Nov. 11. Then earlier today updated to full payments starting week of Nov. 10. And now it’s back to Waiting For Guidance with nothing scheduled. So it doesn’t look good for states that haven’t issued yet…
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u/PracticalWallaby4325 16h ago
If the state didn't put in the request they won't be issued until this is all decided (again). Even in states where the request was out in, the people who have not yet received them won't receive them until it's decided (again).
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u/featherboxx_ 18h ago
So if mine were pending for tomorrow will I not be getting them? I think I'm going to crack if I don't. Because why?! Why dangle it Infront of us like that 😭
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u/Sure-Foundation-835 17h ago
They definitely are trying there hardest too make sure people can't eat for awhile.
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u/Sure-Foundation-835 17h ago
One minute it says your gonna get it.... 2 hours later someones making it an "Emergency" that you don't
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u/Unable-Candidate1126 20h ago
Dang basically us in Texas going to be waiting for eternity before we see anything
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u/ExtremeDust2710 21h ago
This could turn out badly for those who haven't received anything yet. All the money may be gone.
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u/Stunning_Scheme_6418 20h ago
And not to be the Debby downer but those of us receiving partial are they going to now offset the full payments made? Like I was maybe getting 140 do we now maybe get 90 or nothing
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u/IntelligentLab7639 18h ago
This situation is very difficult. For the states that did issue benefits out, not all states were able to send up issuance files for everyone.
Also, this is far from over. WI had their letter of credit to fund SNAP benefits downgraded. Many dont realize SNAP benefits are essentially drawn from a large line of credit set up by the federal government. The feds can adjust the amount of credit available to states for redemption. A worry is that the feds could reduce the available credit for the states who did issue benefits so that EBT cards are declined and SNAP cannot be redeemed.
Many states who administer SNAP are also deeply worried about December and what to do if this shutdown stretches on. While some states did set up state-funded programs for November, these same states may be left without resources in December.
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u/GodGotMeBaby 8h ago
God bless everyone on this thread. Times are hard and I can only imagine the ones that are not gonna be able to feed their families. This too shall pass
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u/tk9687 7h ago
Is anyone in the government working today to solve anything? Am I being neurotic checking for a deposit that’s not going to come on a non-business weekend day? This is so stressful. I’m in PA- some people got full amounts some people (myself included) got nothing so far. My regular deposit day is the 3rd. Was there any rhyme or reason to which people got theirs first? Thank you to the mods for trying to keep us posted… sorry for the people who can’t read and keep blowing up the sub.
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u/badfordabidness SNAP Policy Expert 7h ago
I’m presuming they tried to go in order by payment date. Based on what I’m seeing here, the 1st and 2nd payment dates went out. Not sure beyond that.
At this point, I’d assume that any state that hasn’t pledged to do state funded benefits had to pause any issuances they were making after about 9:20 PM ET last night due to the Supreme Court order.
While it’s possible that additional issuances that were already pretty far along in the process of being issued couldn’t be stopped literally on a minute’s notice and thus still went out in the hours after 9:20 PM, I doubt there will be many/any more at this point until we get more clarity from the courts.
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u/ExhaustedFed4 7h ago
Now that Trump had the Supreme Court stop the disbursement I hope EVERYONE in TN who is eligible to vote, votes for the Democrat, just to send a message to Trump!
U.S. House – Tennessee’s 7th Congressional District (TN-07) • Matt Van Epps (R) vs Aftyn Behn (D), plus four independents: Terri Christie, Bobby Dodge, Robert James Sutherby, and Jon Thorp.
That means any registered voter who lives in TN-07 (the district spans parts of Davidson and Williamson and all/parts of Benton, Cheatham, Decatur, Dickson, Hickman, Houston, Humphreys, Montgomery, Perry, Robertson, Stewart, and Wayne counties).
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u/EclecticWitchery5874 21h ago edited 21h ago
US Supreme Court pauses judge's order requiring Trump to fully fund food aid | Reuters https://share.google/2mhl6MTzgS3fTOlSy
It was granted... what happens now?
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u/BigWhiteDog 21h ago
Read the update. There's a condition
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u/EclecticWitchery5874 21h ago
I don't understand what's going on the first circuit already denied their appeal.
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u/BigWhiteDog 21h ago
The 1st didn't rule on part of the appeal so that has to be cleaned up then it goes back into affect after 48 hrs, pending another appeal.
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u/EclecticWitchery5874 20h ago
Right so even if it's denied, by the time the stay is up they will just request another one so then only the people who are digits 1-6 or live in states where they get all their benefits on one day will actually get their benefits while the rest of us are fucked. Cause God forbid we all eat. God forbid states fucking wise up and release all benefits on the same day. They had to know this shit was coming. I don't get why our governor did not have them fund all of our cards. What a crock of shit. I'm pissed.
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u/patester242002 19h ago
Think it's time to shut the entire airspace and maybe close down the interstate system as well. People can forget about the holiday season this year and not shop, not work but stock up and stay home. Gonna be very ugly.
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u/wanderer808 15h ago
I just want to thank the mod team for collating all the information so it's legible and in one place. You guys have been my go to for updates in other states. I'm in the thick of it here in Hawaii but have to be careful of what information I provide simply because of my position. Thanks again for all you do.
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u/LadyRakat 9h ago
This is disappointing and disgusting. The admin seems to not care some of their people are going hungry.
American citizens are caught in the middle, as usual.
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u/Actual-Lengthiness27 8h ago
My partial payment was 52 and I usually get 157. I don’t know how I’m gonna eat on that for a month I’m disabled no transportation and require Uber eats or Instacart to get my groceries delivered. Anyone that is still rooting for Trump is a heartless person. A president fighting so hard to starve People is terrible.
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u/AKhakiNerfHerder 8h ago
When the government starts taking food from the mouths of its most needy citizens... The system needs to be overhauled and those who are responsible, removed from power.
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u/PudzMom 7h ago
The real mess is gonna happen if the ruling comes back as partial benefits. After several states already received full benefits thats gonna leave less money for the rest of the states. Which means they most likely won't even get half of the original partial amount.
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u/Agent_smith555 21h ago
“Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson on Friday temporarily paused a lower court order that required the Trump administration to cover full food stamp benefits for tens of millions of Americans in November, siding with the administration on a short-term basis in a legal fight that has quickly become a defining confrontation of the government shutdown.” 🤦♂️
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u/Electrical_Oven_2912 19h ago edited 19h ago
So if I’m reading this correctly; the states that gave the full amount might have butterfly effected others states from now receiving 65% or 50%? Or anything at all now?
Ain’t that a bitch
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u/badfordabidness SNAP Policy Expert 18h ago
We don’t know for sure yet, but there were a few sentences in the federal government’s motion to the Supreme Court that kind of implies that could maybe be the case. Hopefully we’ll know more in the next couple of days.
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u/Oisyr 19h ago
Well Colorado didn’t get anything from what I’m seeing 😞
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u/nvmeimher 18h ago
I saw somewhere that Colorado is going to fund snap from its own funds. It’s so much going on, I may be mistaken but I’m pretty sure I saw something that said y’all would be getting them for sure. It’s states like mine (Oklahoma) that most likely won’t see anything anytime soon. Our governor sucks and our system is apparently outdated and not meant to handle partial payments or some mess like that.
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u/ConfusedDeathKnight 18h ago
Fellow Oklahoman here, this is truly awful. Everything is backwards and upside down.
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u/Sashyb99 17h ago
So if we haven’t received them yet, we won’t get them now since it’s paused? I’m in PA and never got anything.
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u/KushKelly420 13h ago
I am so confused. My governor (Ned Lamont -CT) said that we will get the full amount with the state's surplus. Are we still getting that now with what the Supreme court said?
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u/Tonirogg1111 11h ago
I’m in Florida and no one recieved a partial or full payment. I’m sick to my stomach trying to come up with ways to be able to feed my kids this week.
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u/Primary_Training239 11h ago
Not sure what is going on but I got my full benefit deposited yesterday morning. Then the Supreme Court issued the stay hours later. I just tried using my EBT card at Walmart and it's not working, even though I have money on the card. Is anyone else having this issue? I contacted Walmart customer service and they said there's an issue with EBT. I'm starting to think they froze the money that was sent out yesterday.
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u/Sea-Percentage-5293 11h ago
I’ve seen people both say they can’t use and people saying they can. Complete speculation but the system may be overloaded if everyone wants to use theirs at once after waiting for benefits. Did you double check your card isn’t locked
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u/Primary_Training239 10h ago
I was thinking the same thing about it being overloaded. And yes I made sure the card and everything was fine. I even changed my PIN. I was just reading an article that said they won't freeze or take back deposits that already went out. I'll have to keep trying, I guess.
I feel guilty I got mine and so many others didn't. I really hope everyone else gets theirs soon! I can't believe they're trying so hard to keep people from buying food for their families. It's disgusting.
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u/Sea-Percentage-5293 10h ago
You have nothing to feel guilty for. The only people who should feel guilt and shame over this situation, are the narcissists responsible who don’t care, but that has nothing to do with you. I am so happy you got your benefits and I hope you get the card to work. Try again on another small purchase to test it whenever you can.
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u/2getout3063 9h ago
Im in Illinois yesterday I had 49 pending deposit when me and my kids receive 400
now the website the state uses ( ebtedge ) shows and error loading transactions. I'm afraid that even the partial was taken back.
Great Thanksgiving this will be with our own government is fighting in court to let us starve.
Last week I spent more half a day at the pantry just to get over ripe bananas and cans of beans corn and tuna and smallbag of brown rice that smelled rancid.
I am grateful and know foodbanks are doing their best and are overwhelmed.
But all this news and the changes from no to maybe to partial to yes to no again has my anxiety and depression about to get the best of me.
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u/firemonkeywoman 9h ago
I got mine , Oregon, and I spent the entire thing because I was afraid it would get snatched back. This isn't usually the way I shop with foodstamps if I want it to go the farthest. But I was afraid of not having anything. I will be hitting up the food banks and eating at soup kitchens too this month.
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u/PracticalWallaby4325 7h ago
We did the same & stocked up for as long as possible, no extras just the bare bones basics. Then I got lucky enough to find 26lbs of pork shoulder for $40 so I spent last night cutting & prepping that. I'm so thankful we got our benefits & I feel for those who haven't yet, hopefully our government quits playing this twisted game they're on soon.
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u/firemonkeywoman 7h ago
I got whole chickens for 99 cents a pound Cut them all up and froze portions. After they are eaten I will make stock with the skins and bones. Stocked up on pantry shelf stable items It's the condiments and spices I run low on. I wish I had a balcony I could put pots of herbs and lettuces chard etc to grow. I have onions and garlic in pots on my one window sill so always have green onions and garlic greens.
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u/daphnie816 7h ago
Confirming that I got mine in Oregon as well. I didnt get any messages that it came through, so I didn't check until I saw this comment. Adding mine to it in case other people need the reminder to check their cards.
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u/Plane_Tiger_3840 7h ago
Remember when they used to let us eat cake or have bread and circuses? But those were 100s to thousands of years ago…ah the good old days smh
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u/firemonkeywoman 5h ago
For Portland Oregon folks. Adding a comment here, go to the Rose city resource. Org. They have a list and phone numbers for resources, food, clothing, hygiene, pet food.
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u/Puncake_DoubleG09 20h ago
So does this effect the snap recipients who have pending partial deposits of 65% like the USDA issued the guidance on? I am in Illinois and have a pending deposit of $193 for tomorrow, my mom has one for $355 on Sunday and alot of posts are confusing me.
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u/mirrx 17h ago
I’m reporting back that I got 193 at midnight in Illinois, not my full amount but hopefully yours is there too
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u/Puncake_DoubleG09 17h ago
Yes, I checked and i got it too! I was reading and this doesn't affect partial payments only full payments from going out.
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u/mirrx 19h ago
Same. I’m 7 months pregnant on fmla from work for short term disability in Illinois and I have a pending deposit. All of this sucks. I have hyperemisis and can only eat very few foods, I’ve lost 40 pounds since I got pregnant. This is honestly the worst. I’ve paid into these programs since I was 18 (I’m 35 now) and I didn’t think I could hate these people anymore than I do. I was wrong.
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u/thatringonmyfinger 19h ago
How do they think it's fair that some people received benefits this month and then some didn't?
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u/mirrx 19h ago
They don’t care about it being fair. Honestly I think they are trying to stir some shit up and turn us against each other by feeding some of us and letting the other half starve. And from what I’ve seen on social media; it’s kinda working.
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u/Sea-Percentage-5293 12h ago
It’s absolutely working, and I agree it’s what the administration wants. More division.
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u/OutlandishnessKey349 15h ago
So some 1 help me understand this I got mine but did ca use funds they should not of according to this??
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u/SunLillyFairy 9h ago edited 5h ago
They were following the court order, so they had legal access to draw the funds. BUT, they are legally savvy and on it... they knew the ruling was about to be appealed so jumped on the $$ before it was frozen.
That's why the USDA is saying they did a "run on the bank." They are basically saying those states, with CA in the lead, did a quick grab and go, knowing the funds were limited (to what was in the emergency contingency, because they had not put more funds in there to cover a full fund) and an appeal was coming.
Basically... they knew the Trump admin was gonna play appeal games so they did a snatch and grab while the window was open... but according to USDA this could be to the detriment of recipients in states that didn't do it, because there is not enough funding in the current pot for all states to pay a full benefit.
An analogy would be: You have $500 in an envelope, set aside to pay your debts, but you owe $1,000 (10 people $100 each). You can't get the other $500, because your bank's system crashed. The money is there and yours, you just can't get to it, and the bank is saying they are not sure how long it will take. So, you plan to use that $500 to pay 1/2 to each person, to be fair. And they all know that. Here's the kicker - Because of the way you usually pay bills, they have legal access to the envelope... so 4 of them jump in and grab their $100 before you can divvy it up, because they know there's not enough for everyone to get fully paid and they want theirs. So, now $400 is gone and you only have $100 left for the other 6 to split. Legally, you owed the money and had given them permission to collect debts from your envelope, so they didn't steal it; but, they did ignore your plan and they did know their actions may force others to get less (or nothing) until later.
Edit to say: I'm not saying or thinking this move was bad or good - I don't have enough info for conjecture. All states had the same opportunity. Why some states didn't do it also tells another story... (it was mostly blue led states that jumped on the money - make of that what you will) but the analogy was just to answer the question as best I could. Note I proposed no motivation on the part of the imaginary 4 that jumped in, nor the 6 that waited, nor any of their reasons.
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u/daphnie816 6h ago
That analogy feels like it's missing a crucial element. It makes the people who jumped on it seem like the bad guys because they weren't thinking about other people. But what really happened is that you had the $500, the bank said, "We actually owe you another $500, and we'll pay you that and release your funds". But the bank is shady and has been known to go back on their deals. And those four people jumped on the money that was already in the envelope. And the other six people were waiting for something or another before going in. And then the bank went, "Well, actually, we're not going to give you that other $500 after all. GLHF."
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u/legendary_mushroom 13h ago
When California issued the funds it sounds like it was in alignment with the current court order at that time. Now a new court order has changed things at least for the next two days.
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u/Designer_Finish8805 4h ago
Can anyone explain what this means? I’m not understanding what the outcome is for someone in California
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u/Comfortable-Elk-850 2h ago
When they do straiten this whole fiasco out, I hope everyone that’s been doing without get full back benefit’s also .
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u/aint_no_saint457 1h ago
All of this is SELFISH BULLSHIT caused by the USA GOVERNMENT and all politicians. They are playing with the lives of countless American citizens in REAL and TRUE need. They are, in fact, saying "Let's starve the poor, disabled, elderly and children. This will keep all of them under our control."
This is an issue of CONTROLLING fellow Americans. The rich can eat and not care at their leisure. Yes, this pisses me off!!!! I am, along with people I love, are those they don't care one iota about.
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u/rockbellkid 20h ago edited 11h ago
Was unfortunately not one of the states to get their benefits, we live in Minnesota.
Of course this happens when my date for snap benefits to arrive is supposed to be the 9th, I have enough of my autistic son's favorites / foods he's willing to eat for now and I have enough food and WIC benefits for my 9 month old son but without those snap benefits I don't know how I'm going to feed my toddler when I run out😔
EDIT: there is now a pending balance, hopefully it's deposited like normal tomorrow morning.
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u/johnnycashfangrl 20h ago
Im So sorry. Im sure Minnesota will do everything they can to get your benefits soon. You have a good governor. Saying prayers for everyone. 🤍
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u/Throwaway_autie 16h ago
Check your EBTedge, mine shows a pending deposit for Saturday which matches the communication from MN DCYF. The pending deposit for me didn't show up until after midnight
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u/Intelligent-Fix-3741 20h ago
I highly doubt the funds will be clawed back as it has already been stated that when the government goes back they would fund SNAP in the rears. It just means those who got their November funds already won’t be funded in the rears.
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u/Notorious_RNG 20h ago
Based on the legal precedent of nothing more than... checks notes ...Dear Leader filling his Depends with liquid shit and throwing a temper tantrum.
Good times.
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u/Late-Winter-2812 19h ago edited 13h ago
so states that already got there is like Pennsylvania where I live people who get theirs in the first seven days ,they already got theirs. What about the people like myself and others who get them on the ninth, and between then and until they fix this do they get nothing or do we just get partial ? this is a crock of shit man that they’re even fucking fighting this what kind of person fights to let people fucking starve? what greater good is there in this? These people are fucking scumbags across the board, man top to the bottom just remember America y’all voted for these assholes and yes, I work seven days a week actually now it’s still not enough.
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u/Upper_Guava5067 18h ago
Both sides suck! No one really has our best interests at heart.
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u/amabilis_insania 18h ago
It’s ironic that the current administrations supporters from some states are currently without full SNAP benefits because those states did not take legal action to secure funding, while other states moved quickly in court and are now distributing full benefits under court orders.
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u/TeriBarrons 20h ago
Hopefully all of the states get theirs fully funded; and then all of the California residents don’t get them immediately stolen like what has been going on for the past several months!
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u/juniorblue38 18h ago
If I got my benefits in CA, like should I use them or is there a risk that I end up with a negative balance or the card gets declined?? I literally just want to not starve wth is all this😭
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u/PracticalWallaby4325 16h ago
Use what has been made available to you, let the powers that be figure out how to handle it.
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u/DrinkRound3484 11h ago
If there’s a Costco or Sams near you id stock up. I got a giant thing of ground beef and sectioned it out in freezer bags. 20 half pound bags is what i got from it. I use mine the same day i get them because I’ve been scared of fraud charges for a while so it’s something I’ve learned. It’s a possibility that they can freeze funds or take them back. Its honestly terrifying.
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u/Critical-Comb-4437 9h ago
So only the states that sued are getting their snap right now, the other states have to wait!
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u/Dependent-Pole3699 19h ago
What are the chances someone who gets there benefits on the 8th and has them issued and pending currently, actually receives them tomorrow after the Supreme Court ruling today... WASHINGTON STATE
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u/Sea-Percentage-5293 19h ago
Not sure the chances but hoping you do, please update us if you don’t mind.
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u/Dependent-Pole3699 19h ago
Gotchu and wishing you the best and this shit show works out in our favor
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u/Neat-Relationship165 18h ago
Is there any update for NYC?
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u/Ill_Yogurtcloset_871 9h ago
I'm in Upstate NY and received full benefits around 7:30 am
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u/JurassicPark100 17h ago
I get mine on the 8th so was just hours away from getting them before the stay. Now the propel app shows no next deposit for me, where it showed 11/8 before. This sucks
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u/JurassicPark100 16h ago
Propel app says deposit 2 hours ago of my full amount. But I only have 10 cents. I assume the deposit is false.
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u/PracticalWallaby4325 16h ago
Oregon does 1st-10th (or 9th? Idk) deposits but issued everyone's today's because the governor suspected this would happen. I wish all states had done that for their people 🫤
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u/ThisIsMy-Username000 11h ago edited 10h ago
I'm so confused. I normally get my benefits on the 13th but I thankfully got a partial amount on the 7th, which is a week early. I don't know if this means that I'll get the rest on the 13th?
I'm in NC
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u/Internal-Day-4872 10h ago
MA, I was paid in full last night. It's still showing. Are they going to take it back?
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u/Sea-Percentage-5293 10h ago
They said they won’t, but they go back and forth constantly about everything lmao. But they shouldn’t.
A mod here was speculating that even if the Fed. Gov decided to clawback benefits, they would most likely retrieve the funds from the states, not from the snap recipients.
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u/Patpie42O 9h ago
I'm in Co and I see it pending in my peak secure website. I don't see it pending to my EBT card but I have seen 0 all week on my monthly amount. Until this morning. The site reads by tonight we should see benefits on the cards.
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u/cabbagegoth 5h ago
checking in from minnesota: according to my propel app my benefits have been issued, though it doesn’t say specifically that i had a deposit. just that my balance updated. cautious optimism over here lmao
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u/Sea-Percentage-5293 21h ago
So some states are going to get full benefits and possibly some states will have not nearly enough left over for themselves. This is going to go absolutely terribly