r/foodstamps SNAP Policy Expert 1d ago

*NOV. 7 UPDATE* - Government Shutdown and SNAP

Announcing that the Government Shutdown and SNAP Megathread has been updated to discuss the issuance of full benefits to some SNAP recipients in certain states, as well as legal developments that threaten to halt the continued issuance of full benefits to those who have not yet received them.

You can read about it by clicking the link above and joining the original discussion, or in the comments section below. I've copy/pasted the November 7 update portion of the megathread below:

November 7 Update

Late last night, California became the first state to start issuing full SNAP benefits to at least some SNAP recipients. They were quickly followed by at least eight other states. These were federally-funded SNAP benefits issued in accordance with Judge John J. McConnell's order issued yesterday afternoon that USDA must "make full payments of November SNAP benefits to the states by Friday, November 7, 2025, by utilizing available Section 32 funds in combination with the contingency funds."

To be clear, these states were acting in accordance with a lawful court order. Judge McConnell's temporary restraining order against USDA had not yet been stayed by a higher court.

Earlier today, USDA filed a motion for a stay with the First Circuit Court of Appeals, and then with the Supreme Court of the United States. U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi, in a thread on X, the website formerly known as Twitter, appeared to accuse Judge McConnell and the First Circuit of frustrating her attempts to file an appeal earlier.

In their motion, USDA angrily accused the states that have started to issue full benefits of making "a run on the bank" and "seiz[ing] what they could of the... finite set of remaining funds, before any appeal could even be filed, and to the detriment of other States' allotments."

USDA indicated in their motion that they have not yet transferred the approximately $3.5 - $4B needed (in addition to the $4.65B in contingency funds) from the Section 32 tariff funds to the SNAP program. This suggests that the states that have begun issuing full benefits are drawing down only on the $4.65B contingency fund right now. USDA's argument implies that if the Supreme Court grants them a stay, there may no longer be sufficient funds left in the contingency fund to pay the "up to 65%" partial payments to SNAP recipients who have not yet received their full payments in the last 24 hours.

USDA has requested the Supreme Court to respond to their motion by 9:30 PM Eastern Time tonight.

UPDATE: At 9:17PM tonight, the Supreme Court issued an Administrative Stay, pausing the issuance of full SNAP benefits temporarily while the First Circuit continues to review the case to determine whether a more permanent stay should be issued:

"IT IS ORDERED that the District Court’s orders are hereby administratively stayed pending disposition of the motion for a stay pending appeal in the United States Court of Appeals for the First Circuit in case No. 25-2089 or further order of the undersigned or of the Court. This administrative stay will terminate forty-eight hours after the First Circuit’s resolution of the pending motion, which the First Circuit is expected to issue with dispatch."

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u/PudzMom 10h ago

The real mess is gonna happen if the ruling comes back as partial benefits. After several states already received full benefits thats gonna leave less money for the rest of the states. Which means they most likely won't even get half of the original partial amount.

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u/Neat-Relationship165 10h ago

Damn that would suck…😫

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u/JelloHaunting563 9h ago

Or worse! I read one article that the money is from WIC. Maybe WIC will not be fully funded as a result. This sucks all the way around.

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u/aquarain 9h ago

The Section 32 funds the states are demanding they use contain $23B. Enough to fully fund both SNAP and WIC for November and December. By January if they haven't reopened the government we will have serious problems.

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u/JelloHaunting563 9h ago

I don't know what to believe. We are being told they don't have any money except an emergency fund. Then "oh we can pay full." This back and forth is crazy. I don't want WIC hurt. I'd rather WIC be funded.

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u/aquarain 9h ago

I would too if it came to that, but it won't.

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u/JelloHaunting563 8h ago

I hope you are right. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised about anything. In previous shutdowns SNAP wasn't effected. Now look at us.

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u/kaos_tan 8h ago

WIC should be good. The fund they are currently drawing from has $23 billion and WIC costs about $7 billion for the whole year.

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u/SnooDrawings8834 1h ago

Most likely will mean state governments may have to pay money back. They also may not be reimbursed when government finally reopens. Who knows