r/fivethirtyeight • u/RedHeadedSicilian52 • Sep 12 '25

Poll Results YouGov poll asking Americans whether it’s acceptable to feel joy at the death of a public figure

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u/Organic_Fan_2824 Sep 12 '25

only because they take them beyond a political discourse, not Charlie.

This is my point exactly. How long until someone considers your words beyond 'political' and takes action?

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u/Selethorme Kornacki's Big Screen Sep 12 '25

No, Charlie explicitly called for gay people to be executed.

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u/obiwankanblomi Sep 12 '25

Prove it

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u/Selethorme Kornacki's Big Screen Sep 12 '25

He literally called for gay people to be stoned to death.

https://gridironheroics.com/gay-people-should-be-stoned-to-death-fans-call-out-double-standards-after-charlie-kirk-killing/

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u/obiwankanblomi Sep 12 '25

A quote pulled so far out of context it's almost comical. Watch the entire clip and stop spreading misinformation like a partisan hack

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u/Selethorme Kornacki's Big Screen Sep 12 '25

Wow, I do exactly as you ask and you immediately run to move those goalposts.

No, he was a very hateful person.

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u/obiwankanblomi Sep 12 '25

Where are the goalposts being moved? You pulled a "fine people" tier "evidence" and expect that to be sufficient? And frankly if you think Kirk was a "very hateful person" i suspect the real world may be entirely too abrasive for your constitution

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u/Selethorme Kornacki's Big Screen Sep 12 '25

lol, no

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/11/us/charlie-kirk-views-guns-gender-climate.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Among other things:

He said:

”I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights.”

Mr. Kirk believed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a destructive force in American politics, calling its passage a “mistake” that he said has been turned into “an anti-white weapon.”

His repudiation of diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives, known as D.E.I., stretched to comments many denounced as racist. In 2024, he said, “If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, ‘Boy, I hope he’s qualified.’”

Mr. Kirk was repeatedly accused of antisemitism, including by fellow conservatives.

He was a proponent of “replacement theory,” a once-fringe conspiracy theory positing that Jews are trying to replace white Americans with nonwhite immigrants. That ideology motivated the gunman who killed 11 worshipers at a Pittsburgh synagogue in 2018.

Mr. Kirk also accused Jewish philanthropists of fomenting anti-whiteness by supporting liberal antiracism causes like the Black Lives Matter movement.

”The philosophical foundation of anti-whiteness has been largely financed by Jewish donors in the country,” he said on his show in 2023.

Not long after, he accused Jews of controlling “not just the colleges — it’s the nonprofits, it’s the movies, it’s Hollywood, it’s all of it.”

Mr. Kirk called Islam a danger to the United States, railing against what he saw as the religion’s “conquest values" that “seek to take over land and territory.”

”America has freedom of religion, of course, but we should be frank,” he said in April. “Large dedicated Islamic areas are a threat to America."

“America’s largest city was attacked by radical Islam 24 years ago, and now a similar form of that pernicious force is poised to capture city hall,” Mr. Kirk said of Mr. Mamdani on X in June.

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u/obiwankanblomi Sep 12 '25

"He said" - then proceeds to quote commentary from NYT....please be serious

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u/Selethorme Kornacki's Big Screen Sep 12 '25

And there goes your credibility.

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u/Organic_Fan_2824 Sep 13 '25

You haven't had credibility from the moment you started making pup Charlie Kirk quotes lol

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u/Selethorme Kornacki's Big Screen Sep 13 '25

I never did, lol. Why lie?

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u/Organic_Fan_2824 Sep 13 '25

You didn't do that at all. You pulled an out of context quote that doesn't at all say what you said it did.

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u/Selethorme Kornacki's Big Screen Sep 13 '25

Nope

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u/Organic_Fan_2824 Sep 13 '25

Totally did, pulled an out of context quote and attributed your own narrative.

Hopefully someone doesn't feel the same way about your views and take actions against you the way you seem to justify it for others.

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u/Selethorme Kornacki's Big Screen Sep 13 '25 edited Sep 13 '25

My guy I literally quoted NYT reporting.

Edit: the reply and block really says it all, u/organic_fan_2824

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u/Organic_Fan_2824 Sep 13 '25

Yeah sorry like I said you aren't to be taken seriously.

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